Babies Born February 2008 #2

[Bun]

roquen - it's pretty scary when they do those jerks and nearly hurt themselves, isn't it! I also often express after a feed if there is still some milk left. It will be great to have stored in the freezer if I want a night out!

ash - what fantastic pics!!

leebee - welcome! I used to wake up with milk everywhere too but it has settled down now. I hope yours does too - much more comfy!

Sorry, no time for any more. DD has been really unsettled and is screaming again...

[prama]

My GP said today that most of your milk comes in the first 5 mins, after that it's just a trickle.
That's not what the ABA said...

I'm so confused!

[leebee81]

My GP said today that most of your milk comes in the first 5 mins, after that it's just a trickle.
That's not what the ABA said...

I'm so confused!

I'd go with the ABA on breastfeeding matters. First milk is foremilk, followed by hindmilk. The hindmilk is what you want, it fills up bubs. It can take a couple of minutes for the hindmilk to kick in. Plus, it depends on your let down and how effective your baby's suck is. Oliver will feed for 30 - 45 mins, so what your GP said doesn't sound right to me. Plus, when I pump I get quite a bit of milk after the first 5 minutes.

[Roquen]

What timings is everyone feeds after say 5pm at the moment (and thru the night)? Mine are all over the shop but roughly 3 hour spacings, depending on what time he wakes up in the mornings...

[The[cookie]Doctor]

roquen, alex is pretty much four hourly. if he wakes early (normally the 3:30 night feed, )its normally for some other reason so i try keep him happy and push the feed out because then i know he's hungry and he has a good feed & sleep after, iykwim. mine are -
19:30
23:30
03:30
07:30

if im lucky - sometimes i'll get
23:30
05:30
10:30

but he only seems to do that on anthony's days off... lol.

[leebee81]

Roquen, I demand feed Oliver. He tends to cluster feed in the evenings, but his overnight feeds have followed the same loose pattern since day 2:

between 10.30-11.30pm
between 2.30-3.30am
between 6.30-7.30am

Only once did he drop the 2.30-3.30 feed and I woke up anyway!

Its roughly 3 hours between feeds during the day.

[Mommyof2tob]

hey girls,

so sorry it's been a while since i've been in here. cree and zoey have been keeping me pretty busy. today i took cree to playgroup and i did my first official public BF. it went pretty well, i had to do it twice because zoey likes to feed for about 15min then get her diaper changed and just check out her surroundings then back on the boob again for anywhere between 5 to 15 mins depending on when she falls asleep. i do however have a question for you girls but it's about cree she's been sleep walking do you guys know anything about this??? i'm so affraid that she will go outside, not so much out the front door because we chain it and she can't reach it but the patio door she knows how to unlock it and open it. my backyard is fenced in due to the dog and i'm sure that if she went out there he would be right by her side but it's still frightening because it's so cold. any suggestions i would appreciate it so much.

[all girls]

Mummyof2tobe, my DD1 sleep walks and talks but she has never tried to go outside she usually walks into the kitchen, bathroom or my bedroom sais something then goes back to bed. I used to sleep walk also when i was little and Mum had to put locks on the doors as she found me on the balcony once. Can you put a latch on the door? or a bell or something so that it will wake you up? At least She can't go too far.

Summer was such a good little princess last night, she went to bed at 9.30 then didn't wake for a feed until 3.30 and i had the best sleep!!! She usually feeds every 3-4 hours during the night, she has her little cluster feeds during the afternoon.

[prama]

Trina - Summer is a week old already!! she's so beautiful xoxox

ash - thanks for your kind words!

Lakshman is sleeping all day now and grizzles in the evenings and seems to be awake at night. His sleeping and feeding pattern is all over the place. Last night after his 7.30 feed he was fast asleep. I had quick sleep from 10 to 10.30 and tried to wake him up for his 10.30pm feed but he was dead to the world. So I left him and he woke up at 2.30am for a feed. Geez, if I had known that, I could have slept from 10 to 2.30! what a wasted opportunity!!

I'm feeling a bit low with feeding. I'm still trying to get my milk up, with motilium, and still have to top up with formula. It just seems to me, that it's not going to increase. I feel sad when I read about mum's whose milk just do wonders. No offence to anyone of you. I'm really happy that bf is going well.
That's why I havent posted in a while. I'll try not to cry, I just feel I trying but it's not happening..

I'll try to be better at personals. I feel bad for not doing them.
Lakshman is being grizzle bum at the mo, I'll go see what's up with him.. Poor bub, he's congested and it's making it hard for him.

[The[cookie]Doctor]

Marie - Sorry i can't offer any suggestions to help with Cree's sleepwalking, but i hope you can figure something out soon. Hopefully if it does happen, she will be startled enough by the cold so that it doesn't continue, iykwim? Sorry i don't know much about sleep-walking... Trina made a god suggestion about a bell on the door... that way you (if your hands are free!) or DH can hop up and guide her back to bed before she gets outside??

Prama - oh i hope he has another sleep like that for you - try and steal as many hours as you can if he drops off like that! So sorry you missed out last night... As for the BFing, can you maybe ask to try Maxolon instead? I'm not sure how different they are but you might find that it does more... Hang in there gorgeous, you are doing so very very well to have stuck it out so far already. It's very inspiring!

Well, i had my first horrid day/night with Alexander yesterday/last night. I think i've eaten something to upset his stomach (satay more than likely) because he'd been waking about an hour and then the next hour after i put him down and absolutely screaming, which is unusual for him.
Sometimes it's very short and he self settles, other times i have to give his belly a rub before he goes back to sleep. And then last night he woke every hour from 4:30 onwards. I even tried feeding him, thinking maybe he was just cluster feeding (who knows, he did stop that on about day five) but it didn't help. It ended in Mummy-tears and me telling him to shut up
Hopefully he settles down a bit today, he's still very grizzly but i don't have to go to him every time he wakes now.

Hoping everyone else is well! to everyone.

[Esme]

Hi all,

Ash - Jasper has his unsettled periods too; he squirms, kicks his legs and just screams of the top of his lungs, sometimes so hard that he vomits up some of his food. Most of the time it is due to gas; I can actually feel the bubbles moving. Usually a tummy massage, leg pedalling or a warm hand on his tummy will give him some relief. Some people suggest a warm bath, but I haven't tried that yet. It is so hard to see them in pain and feel so helpless if nothing works. I have started to put earplugs in my ears when I massage him and he doesn't stop crying; it takes the edge of the crying and doesn't grate as much on your emotions. Hopefully it is just a period and they will grow out of it sooner rather than later...

On the other hand though feeding times are starting to increase!!! Over the last three nights he had missed two feeds (6 hour gaps!!!) and had about four four hour gaps instead of the regular 3 hour gaps. During the day he is not as predictable anymore though. Used to be good; 3 hours between feeds; enough time to go into town. But now sometimes 2 hourly, so might have to prepare myself to breastfeed in public. How did you girls find that?

Prama - My supply is all over the place too; sometimes I know I have enough and than all of a sudden he doesn't seem to get enough. I don't know what causes it. I am lucky that motilium works for me, so I can take a tablet when I think I don't have enough, but I am not sure whether I can keep up breastfeeding without Motilium... Will see the doc Monday the 17th for the 6 week checkup, so might quiz her about it. In the meantime don't give up hope! You've been working so hard on it, it has to work out!

Ok, that's my 2 cents worth for the day. Wish everyone a very good day and night!

Esther

[The[cookie]Doctor]

Esther - i love your ticker photo of jasper, it;s just so adorable!!!
Thanks for the tip on leg pedalling - i remember reading about it somewhere but had totally forgotten.
The bath does wonders (IMO) - especially if you give them a bit of a massage as well (my mum showed me how and oh my goodness alex loves it!!). Just be careful when you take him out, last time alex had a bad tummy in the bath he pood in the towel and all over his feet... :
As for Bfing in public... i'm not game... my pump and freezer has become my friend for the eventual JIC.

[Esme]

Ash - Thanks! Yes he is terribly cute and so is Alexander! I just read your birth story; I admire you for doing it without pain relief. I caved in and had a spinal; which I have to say was what I needed because of the lack of a supportive midwife, so hopefully next time better!

There are some good baby massage/settling techniques on the reflux/colic forum, I don't know how to insert links, will try if you can't find it. Another thing that works for Jasper is undo his nappy and part is butt cheeks a little; make sure you are standing to the side or are covered by a towel; can be explosive!!

All the best; I hope it is because of the satay and it will settle soon!

[Sueby]

Hi Everyone,
only time for a quick post. Had a bad day/night and haven't had much sleep. Just had a nap for about 40mins as my DH is home but am finding it hard to switch off.
My MIL had the boys yesterday so I thought I would have a catch up sleep day -- Sophie just wanted to have long feeds and then had trouble going to bed so by last night we were in a bit of a mess. She has fed 3 and a half hourly today so hopefully we are on track for a better night.

Sorry for the lack of personals
Big sleep vibes to everyone
Sue

[RoyaUK]

hi there, sorry for the quick post - will catch up properly later but wanted to share our update. I had been a bit concerned with DD as she is feeding for only 5 to 10 mins then won't take any more and will more than likely fall asleep, then burp then fall asleep somemore. So i was concerned she wasn't getting enough milk in the 5 mins.

my Maternal nurse has just been and it seems she has put on over 700 grams since she was born 10 days ago. So clearly, she's a greedy guts and manages to get all the milk she needs in 5 mins. I was pretty blown away by the weight gain and wondered what the average gain was in the first couple of weeks?

[danda]

I'm back! Zoe was born on the 29th Feb....a gorgeous little Leap Year Bub.
I haven't found the time to pop in here yet to say hi....the computer is upstairs and it's quite a chore to get up here. I had a big 3rd degree tear (on top of an episiotomy) so I am still in recovery mode.
Haven't read all your posts yet either....but I hope all is going well with everyone!
I'll try to pop in more often!

[Jacki]

Hi Ladies
Sorry I have been missing in action over the last couple of days - just can't seem to "get it together". And using old and very slow computer until our usual one is fixed. I have missed way too much to do personals but have quickly skimmed though and sounds like everyone is coping OK.

Danda - congratulations on the arrival of Zoe - a leap year bub ! Less birthday parties to organise!

Roquen - I am demand feeding DS and not in too much of a pattern as yet. Roughly feeding 7.30-8.30pm, 12.30-1.30am and 4.30-5.30am - I am exhausted !

Last night he didn't settle very well after both is feeds. Lots of grunting and groaning so I assume he had a bit of tummy wind. He grunts and groans a lot in his sleep anyway so wasn't too worried but in hindsight I think I should have got him up and helped him out a bit more.

Esme - I will try the tummy rubs and cycling his legs.

Visited MHCN today - obviously no supply issues here with b/f. My little budda has managed to put on exactly 1 kilo since birth. From 4.34kgs to 5.34kgs !! And he is only just over 4 weeks - he's a big one !!!

I am trying so hard to get some sleep during the day but find my mind is racing 100 miles an hour and don't get any - anyone having this ??

[The[cookie]Doctor]

Jacki i find i can't sleep if i'm actively trying to... Have you tried reading a book in bed, or writing a diary that sort of thing?
It's the only thing that gets me off to sleep in the day... at night i'm eventually exhausted enough to conk out.
:hugs: Hope it picks up for you soon.