Babies Born June 2007 #5

**Celsie** · December 13th, 2007, 11:43 AM

Thanks girls... it's good to be back.

Just wanted to know if any of your bubs can sit up on their own yet? Caeleb can!!! He can't crawl, but he can sit up on his own?!? LOL I guess they just do different things at different times. He does faceplant from time to time, but mostly he's fine.

Just went to an ABA meeting about Infant led weening. Basically it's about giving babies whole soft pieces of food when they're able to chew (about 6 months) and not spoon feeding. Very interesting. Will give it a go and let you know how we go!

Our EC (nappy free) training is going so well! We had poos on our potty for the 2nd time this week. We get wees 8/10 times, so I'm really proud of him!

Okay, late for a Mother's Meeting!

BBL

Celsie. xoxox

p.s. I didn't get to upload holiday pics, as little one wouldn't sleep!

**rylansmum** · December 13th, 2007, 08:40 PM

Hi there everybody, i am wondering if anybody is having trouble getting their babies to sleep??
Ashlyn was really good early on but then started to refuse to sleep at around 4 weeks...she actually caught a cold from Rylan so i think this may have thrown her out of whack. So basically from then until now it has been hit and miss some days she will sleep 10 mins others she will sleep 3 hours.
The worst thing is the fact that she is really hard to settle at night, i will get her sorted for bed and give her a bottle and sometime she will fall asleep no worries and stay dead to the world for 15-20mins but as soon as i put her down in her cot she is wide awake!!

I can sit on the lounge with tv on, Rylan running around yelling, get up walk into her cot, i pretty much lay in the cot to make sure she is laying flat as not to disturb her but as soon as she hits that mattress she is wide awake kicking and cooing

Other time she will be so tired that she fights every attempt to settle her, she will kick and scream and arch her back, throw herself around and if i sit down to rock her she will lose it 10x worse until i stand and rock her and that doesnt always neccesarily work.
I have tried putting her down while she is not quite asleep, i have tried i guess its controlled crying(in my book its actually ignoring her

) hoping she will put herself to sleep but she will just scream and now she is rolling she jams herself into the corner of her cot face down, which scares the crap out of me!!! I have tried giving her a nice warm bath with the bedtime stuff and it works sometimes not all.
It is just really getting frustrating every night i seem to be getting so cranky with everyone because she just wont settle and its not fair on them and i dont want to feel like that.
Can anybody help please
Eliza
(Rylansmum)

**Charlyfrog** · December 13th, 2007, 09:04 PM

:hugs: Rylansmum! The only thing I can suggest may or may not be something that you are comfy with so this is just a thought - it might be a retraining issue. if you have covered all the other basis: eg wind, dirty nappy, full tummy, not too hot/cold, no temp etc, teething? Growth spurt? If you have eliminated these (although the last could be tricky - hindsight can sometimes be the only revealing moment ) then it might come down to you deciding when it is nap time and when nap time is over. During the nap, for a little while you may have to go in every 10mins or so to do a quick retuck, pat and settle and then walk out.

Btw, DD#2 also rolls all over the place - we heard her kicking the wall the other night!

So we put her in a light gro bag or wrap her tight in a cot sheet - sometimes just her legs, sometimes arms and legs as the air con can make her too cool. She is houdini but eventually she tires of fighting the sheet and falls asleep

DD#2 is certainly far more alert and cheeky than DD#1! I put her to bed when she is awake and if I do go in to resettle I hardly make eye contact (I'd probably smile coz she's so cheeky cute - which will then get her all excited again! ) and I don't say anything - I just get in and get out in a calm, quiet manner. Its the consistency of the process that bubby will eventually pick up on and it could take a week or so for your little one to catch on. If its something that you are happy to try and you are happy to see a week or two, maybe 3 go by before bubby is sleeping well again, it could be worth it.

Most importantly, it is what you are comfortable doing - this is what DH & I have done with both our girls.........and still have to even with DD#1 as she is really using her mind and thinking and realising that she can be independent so, "oh wow. I don't have to go to sleep right now if I don't want to!" So wrong

but we have to work with her on that one

HTH if only a little bit. Thinking of you hun! xx

**MumofLewis** · December 15th, 2007, 10:20 AM

Hi Girls,

Guess who's cut both his front teeth overnight! No wonder he was soooo grumpy yesterday, I nearly put him on ebay, free to a good home

He had his injections so I thought maybe that was it, but now I know.

Celsie - No Lewis can't sit on his own, probably because whenever he catches sight of his own toes, he dive bombs straight for them and ends up folded in half!

RylansMum - Since about 4 months, Lewis doesn't go to sleep straigtaway at night. However because he doesn't cry I just leave him in the cot and check on him. To be honest I have stopped his dummy and think that is why it takes him longer to fall asleep. But I have tried making his bedtime a little later and don't let him sleep too late in the afternoon. The rolling makes things worse because he wakes himself up everytime he goes onto his tummy. i can't wait for him to learn to roll back. But it is scary seeing them on their tummy in the cot isn't it.
I'm not sure what to suggest apart form Charly's suggestion of some form of controlled crying whether it is every 30 seconds or longer whichever you are comfortable with.

Lewis is loving is food, his mouth is wide open at the sight of the spoon! However, he gets a big orange moustache when I give him carrot, so I may stop that for a while! Oh and great news, I haven't dreamfed him for 4 nights and he hasn't woken up so hopefully that is the end of those!

Anyway must go and do my Florence Nightingale routine, DH is in bed with flu.

**Charlyfrog** · December 15th, 2007, 04:19 PM

MumofLewis (aka Florence Nightingale ) -

oh you crack me up!! Ebay!! Too funny!! Oh wow!! Two teeth!! Goodness me! What a clever little man! And yes those toes - they are like the south end of a magnet and their mouths are like the north end; they spy each other and wham!!! Straight together!

Hope your DH feels better real soon.

DD had her 6 month immunisations yesterday - didn't cry for the first one just looked at her daddy with the expression, "excuse me?!?!?!" But then with the second one, awww poor love! It really was an ouchy cry but then so cutely followed by a grumpy, telling off style, "ya-ya-ya!" Teehee!! Within a minute after she was all smiles again - yay!! This is actually the best she has been after an immunisation as she hasn't needed panadol once and has seemed her normal self, yay again!

Funny thing tho, in the waiting room after she was getting hungry as it was almost feed time but I wanted to get home first. (the surgery likes children to wait around for 10-15mins after an immunisation just in case of reactions) She was sitting on my lap and turned towards me, put her hand out to my booby and then pulled herself right at it with a big open mouth!!!!! Hahaha! We left after that

No teeth yet but have everything on hand - including rusks. And bought her first baby cereal today in preparation to start next week (busy weekend). I have given her her spoon to play with a couple of times - just got to watch her as she tends to try and scoop out her tonsils with it!

It was lovely as I sat her in the high chair for the first time tonight at dinner time - our first family of four moment at the dinner table - so sweet! DD#1 loved it as she was able to see her little sister and have a chat with her and DD#2 loved it as she adores her big sister!(the high chair passed the taste test as well, hehe!) I think she really enjoyed the socialising too as we usually have her in the bouncer on the floor next to us but she still seems a bit far away iykwim, so being much closer to the action was great.

Hope you are all having a really great weekend! bbl!
Mwa!!

**Celsie** · December 15th, 2007, 06:59 PM

Sarah - Woo hoo Lewis!!!

Congratulations on the teeth! How clever!

I'm so jealous. Caeleb isn't even looking like getting teeth. Mum said I didn't get mine till after I could walk, so maybe he's the same...

Charly - A woo hoo too for DD #2 in her high chair!

It's a special moment huh?

Had our last Mother's Group for the year. It was at a Play Cafe. The sign on the door said "Under 1.... Free". The guy charged me $1.50!!! He said, that since Caeleb was going to play in the baby section (mats on the floor with a slide he can't even access as he needs to be able to climb up several chambers to get to it). What a joke!!! Caeleb can't even crawl... bloody idiot!!!

Anyway, it's family DVD night.

Celsie. xoxox

**mel_thekiwimum** · December 16th, 2007, 06:45 AM

hi everyone
well we leave for our trip home to NZ for Christmas today - I'm a bit nervous about the flight but its only 3 hours so i'm sure we'll be fine - but to top it off Jackson has got a snotty cold today as well

just want to wish everyone a very merry Christmas as I probably won't get to read the posts much until we get back in 2008!!! this Christmas is going to be so much fun with our little man

love and hugs to all of you

Mel and Jackson

**Feathertop** · December 17th, 2007, 07:19 PM

HI all, I'm signing off for a while too, we're off to QLD for Christmas in the morning (Angus' first plane trip).

Have a lovely Christmas everyone, enjoy every precious second with your babies and enjoy the experience of seeing Christmas through the eyes of a child.

**Starfish** · December 17th, 2007, 07:47 PM

Hi everyone

Diana had her 6 month needles today (she will be 6 months on Wednesday, but for some reason the dr wanted us to come in today specifically). Diana cried a bit, but got over it very quickly, my brave girl. I am so proud of her. She got weighed and measured too (6.7kg, 67cm), and was generally a good girl for the rest of the day.

On Saturday, my sister, Diana and I went to Glebe markets. I got Diana a cute tie dyed singlet (only to have DH comment when he saw it that it looked like a gay prde top , oh well, never mind, I like it ). We then had lunch at the food hall in Broadway shopping centre, where Diana sat in a high chair for the first time. She was a bit small for it, but I think she liked being up at table level. (And it enabled me to eat lunch in peace for once). Last night we went to dinner at my sister's place, and Diana got to sit at the table (in a normal chair, propped up by pillows). She even ate a little bit of potatoe. My little girl is growing up.

Hi to everyone else. Hope you all have a lovely Christmas. I will be going to New Zealand this weekend and will be back on 02 January, but hope to get online while I am there.

**PinkPalace** · December 18th, 2007, 09:33 AM

Starfish - the poor little bub! Ashley had her last week - although it is one less this month )needles) it still breaks your heart to see them cry doesnt it!

Feathertop- how are the teeth going? I think ashley is aboutt o cut her 2 bottom teeth soon, I can see them - the gum is almost white in 2 spots and can feel them but they are not through yet, how long does it take from this point???
I am sure angus will be fine on the plane! hugs

Hope everyone has a great chrissy and nye! I too am off the brisbane to visit the family... me, dh, dd and the 2 dogs for a 13 hour drive woohooo lol. We wont be back until the 8th january! we leave on saturday!

For anyone left.. i have been having dilemmas on my body symptoms and ttc...

I found my old charting i did when ttc last year with dd... and its funny i dont remember any of these feelings but hey it is there on my computer lol... what do you think of the similarities?

I would be very surprised if i didnt ovulate for starters (still waiting for Af post partum,,) but you interpret and tell me what you think.

Starting Thurs 21st Sept
T Ferns/Left side Pain
Full Ferns/ Left side Pain
Full Ferns/ Left side Pain
T Ferns
T Ferns
Full Ferns
T Ferns/ Period Cramps
Full Ferns/ Period Cramps
T Ferns
Full Ferns
T Ferns/ Nausea
Full Ferns/Nausea/Faint BFP
Full Ferns/Nausea/Faint BFP
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BFP
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BFP
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BFP
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Starting Thursday 6th Dec
Full Ferns/ Pains
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Full Ferns/ Period Cramps
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Full Ferns/ Period Cramps
Full Ferns/ Period Cramps
Full Ferns/Period Cramps/Nausea
PeriodCramps/ Nausea
Full Ferns/ Nausea
Transitional Ferns/ Nausea (today)

- indicates a day unchecked or unnoted

i have done a few posts lately in other forums... look obsessive i know but i am driving my self nuts in what i am hoping is a 2ww!!!

what do you think?

All i want for xmas is a BFP. a BFP, a BFP.........

**MumofLewis** · December 18th, 2007, 11:15 AM

Wow Princess Mya that is all double dutch to me! Do you check your temps? Have they remained high around the time you think you have ovulated? Good luck with it all.

It sounds like Ashley is very close to cutting her teeth, I didn't really feel anything until the day before but still didn't realise how close it was.

To all those going away for Xmas, have a great trip. We are having a quiet one at home, just can't wait for Lewis to have his jolly jumper, his little legs are bouncing already!

**PinkPalace** · December 18th, 2007, 12:26 PM

NO havent been temping so i have no idea... i know that i have been hotter though as i need the aircon on at night and Dh is shivering under the sheets (usually it is the opposite).lol

**Starfish** · December 19th, 2007, 08:25 AM

Hi everyone

Diana is six months old today! I remember when she was born, it seemed like such a long time until she turned six months, and now here were are.

**Charlyfrog** · December 19th, 2007, 04:15 PM

Oh goodness! Reading about everyone starting to head off for their chrissy hols really shows how fast this year - particularly our babies first 6months have gone! Crazy huh?????

I can see two white lines under DD's bottom gums but I can't feel them! All her teething symptoms have disappeared (red cheeks, red bot) so maybe it was more a growth spurt than anything else.

Tried first taste of baby cereal the other morning

She was so excited and waving her arms everywhere with a massive smile on her face as the spoon came towards her BUT!! As soon as she got her first taste her face truly went inside out and all screwed up!!

Then she'd gag

So might try again tomorrow.

Out to dinner tonight

so really should go get ready as I have to feed before we go as I am not a very graceful public feeder and the best the place could offer me was the loos......um, hows no sound?? Thankfully DD is sleeping really well atm so hopefully she will be a very happy chappy at the restaurant and not squeal the place down as she tends to do when she is tired

OMG!!! I have to tell you this!!!!!! Had the huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugest hunstmen spider in my house this morning and DH was at work!!!!!!!!!!!! Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek!!!! It was MASSIVE!! (picked up that I hate spiders???hahaha!) So both my DD's were wondering why mummy was acting like a mad women and dancing this funny dance and singing this song that only had funny sounds in it like "ewwwwwwwwwww, eeeeeeeeeeeeek! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!! Blehhhhhhh!! Yayayayayaya!!!"

Eventually I managed to almost drown it in spray - whilst on the phone to DH who suggested I stepped on it!! WHAAAAT?!?!?!? Seriously!! It was that big it would've thrown me off!!! ROFL!!!

So I conquered in the end, lol, and then had to go and wipe over everything that got sprayed in the process, twit! Poor DD#2 was so famished as it went past her normal feed time as I couldn't leave until I was certain the horrid spider was well and truly dead as I was paranoid it would crawl and surprise me else where if I let it out of my sight ................ yes coz they are very smart!!

I need therapy I know.................................

Okeedokee.................to all those off on Christmas holidays, have the most precious time with those priceless memories with your families and oh so sweet and amazingly precious babys! xx And to everyone else, will bbl hopefully with no further traumatic events - LOL!!!!

Ok, DH has just drawn my attention to the time, really should go get ready

Mwa!!

**Charlyfrog** · December 22nd, 2007, 11:26 AM

Me again!

Well I can feel and see DD's first tooth!!! Happy sad moment - first tooth

but my gummy bear has gone

Ah! they just grow up way too fast don't they!!!!!

Hope all your chrissy preparations are so much fun as we count down to our babies FIRST christmas! So so so precious!!

Its been fun as we have been allowing the girls to open their gifts from others as they get them - saves DD#1 getting bored with opening a billion gifts and not having time to play with them as we trundle off to lunch. (not to mention mummy and daddy are then not overwhelmed with double the amount of gifts all in one hit this year having another child an' all that! )

Thinking of you all - those travelling and those remaining. Take care beautiful ones!!!

Mwa!!

**Charlyfrog** · December 24th, 2007, 05:42 PM

Me again! LOL!!

Just wanted to pop in and say

MERRY FIRST CHRISTMAS!!!!
....to....

Mikayla (Teepee2)
Mackenzie (Jen)
Diana (Starfish)
Aiden (Debbie)
Caeleb (Celsie)
Ashley (Princessmya)
Lachlan (Naomi54)
Lewis (Mumoflewis)
Angus (Feathertop)
Jackson (Mel_thekiwimum)
Ashlyn (Rylansmum)
Imogen (Lira21)
Oscar (Michelle71)
Riley (Lollie)
John (Katie82)
Brianna (Nellnell)
Aliyah (Mackusz)
Ava (Tanz_ava)
Lee (Meegm)
Rhianna (Julia) &
Shayla (Mum2cheekygirl06)

!!!!Phew!!!!!

I am so sorry if I forgot anyone & I hope I got them all right!! I tried to make sure I didn't

I really hope you all have the most precious, special and memorable Christmas with your beautiful families!! Take care over the holidays and its so exciting to be on this journey with all your adorable little miracle babies!!

Mwa!!

Charlyfrog & Chloe xx

**MumofLewis** · December 24th, 2007, 08:10 PM

Wow Charly, great effort, well done!

Merry Christmas to you all.

We are the luckiest girls in the world this Christmas spending it with our bubs for the first of many special Christmases.

Hope it is great for everyone, can' t wait to hear about all the pressies! Actually I just opened one of Lewis's from my Dad in England!

Couldn't wait. It was a cute hoodie and a squashy book.

Anyway eat drink and be merry

**Celsie** · December 25th, 2007, 09:18 AM

Merry Christmas June Mummies and Babies!!!

Congatulations to Charly's DD#2 for her first tooth! All I want for Christmas is my two front teeth! LOL

Great job Charly, BTW. I think you managed to remember everyone!

Merry First Christmas to all the gorgeous bubbas out there. I hope you've all been good and Father Christmas has brought you lots of beautiful pressies.

Caeleb had enough of Christmas by 9:30am and is back in bed sleeping! LOL

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVEYRONE!

Celsie & Caeleb. xoxox