Babies Born June 2007 #9

[PinkPalace]

well i met my little neice today! and whoooo mama!

Ashley cracked it big time when ever i held my neice!
makes me think this 2 under 16 months may be a little harder than i thought! lol

Any tips from those with older kids on trying to ease them into the prospect of a new sibling (i guess it is hard as ashley is only 13 months!) eewww... i dont know if the doll trick will work?

Otherwise all good. We are now in cloth nappies and very excited about using them on Ashley - her bum looks so cute in them!

She is very much into poking my eyes out which i am trying to kurb with time out when she does it and the biting seems to have stopped yay!!!

[Charlyfrog]

PinkPalace - when DD#1 came to meet her new sister, DH popped his head in first to say that they had arrived and so I made sure I wasn't holding DD#2 when big sister walked in. I layed DD#2 next to me on the bed (had a big bed!!) so my arms were free for big cuddles with DD#1!! Then I let her discover and 'explore' her baby sister in her own time (under supervision of course, hehe) The first time DD#2 had a big cry, big sister was not impressed, teehee. The other thing we tried to do was where possible, DH would do nappies, burping etc with bubby......I just didn't want DD#1 to think that this new little creature had completely stolen mummy!! We did do the doll thing - veeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyy cute when DD#1 had to 'feed her baby' !! We have had our ups and downs with DD#1...............still are but its amazing how you find yourself just dealing with whatever your little one throws at you! Imo, thinking about it all is actually worse than the reality!!! Although doesn't detract from the hard work but wow! It pays off in dividends - especially when I hear my baby kacking her daks laughing at her big sisters antics!!

Don't know if me sharing gives any comfort but don't doubt yourself as the wonderful mummy that you are!! More importantly, try not to let yourself become concerned/worried about the 'what ifs', cross the bridges as they come and don't let other people's horror stories clog your brain!!! xxxxxxx It's a learning curve for mummy, daddy, big sister and baby!! (trust me, baby cruises through it all!! ) Anywhos, nuff woffle now xx


Well its late so will bbl tomorrow to say a bit more hi to y'all!! Hehe


MWA!!!

[Celsie]

Sorry it's late!!! Didn't make it on here yesterday due to toy sales but..

Happy 1st birthday Lewis!!!

Hope you had a wonderful day little man. I'm sure Mummy and Daddy made it extra special for you! Mwah!!!

So... I have a confession to make. I'm a toy sales junkie!!!

In all seriousness, I never thought for one second that I'd be sucked into the world of toy sales... but here I am, a day after the sales with three massive lay-by dockets. How did that happen??? LOL

What did I buy for my almost 13 month old??? A swing set with a slide, a little tikes comfy coupe, plastic balls to go in a ball pit, a little fold out couch, a tonka workbench with powertools, a pop up tent, a playskool vacuum cleaner and dust buster, fisher price activety table thingy (great description huh?) LOL, a 8' round enclosed trampoline, a massive metal tonka truck with hard hat, an etcha sketch, a playskool talking BBQ, little memory farm eggs, and an elmo quilt cover set and bean bag.

I have told myself that these items are going to be divided up between Christmas and his 2nd birthday. OMG... when you write it all down, maybe DH was right? Did I really buy THAT much?!?

Well, I've taken the first step. I've admitted I have a problem.

So who else is going to confess their toy sale sins? LOL

Oh on a completely different topic. A friend of mine gave me a DVD to watch about vaccinations. DH and I have been torn as to if we're going to continue with Caeleb's vaccinations or not. After watching this DVD there is NO WAY he'll ever had another one. If I'd know this information prior to having a baby, I wouldn't have started them to begin with. It's made by VISA (Vaccine Information South Australia) and is called Investigate before you Vaccinate. Their purpose is not to railroad you into not vaccinating your child, but to supply you with information so you can make an informed decision. I'm going to try and burn a copy of this DVD before I give it back, so if I'm succesful, if anyone would like a copy of it, PM me and I'll gladly post you one for free!!!

[MumofLewis]

Hi Everyone,

Thanks for all your birthday messages! Lewis had a lovely day but his party is tonight so we are looking forward to that. He had lots of nice pressies, my favourite being his Thomas robe, Adidas tracksuit, bike, fold out couch, the list goes on....!

Celsie, OMG the Toy Sale! It sounds like you are planning on openng a daycare centre!! Maybe you should sleep on those laybys and see if you might want to return some in a few days!! BTW the Fisher Price activity table thing, if it's the same as Lewis's he seems to play with his alot less recently so maybe Caeleb will be too old for it by Christmas??

As for the vaccinations, I am intrigued by this topic because I know someone who hasn't given her child any vaccinations, but it scares the hell out of me to think what would happen if he caught one of those diseases, compared to the 'seemingly' more uncommon risks associated with the vaccinations. Is it the Autism that they talk about or other side effects? Maybe I shouldn't watch the DVD as I might get into a dilemma

Pinkpalace - How funny, I held my new nephew the other day and Lewis squealed with delight that his Mum had a new toy for him!! No jealousy whatsoever

[Celsie]

Celsie, OMG the Toy Sale! It sounds like you are planning on openng a daycare centre!! Maybe you should sleep on those laybys and see if you might want to return some in a few days!! BTW the Fisher Price activity table thing, if it's the same as Lewis's he seems to play with his alot less recently so maybe Caeleb will be too old for it by Christmas??

I put that one on a normal lay-by so I can pay it off in a couple weeks, same witht the vacuum, the tent and the BBQ. A friend had one at her house which he just loved. And even if he's not too keen for very long, I'm sure the next one will love it.

As for the vaccinations, I am intrigued by this topic because I know someone who hasn't given her child any vaccinations, but it scares the hell out of me to think what would happen if he caught one of those diseases, compared to the 'seemingly' more uncommon risks associated with the vaccinations. Is it the Autism that they talk about or other side effects? Maybe I shouldn't watch the DVD as I might get into a dilemma.

At least if you watch the DVD, you have all the information you need to make an informed decision about your child and his health. They say that only 10% of adverse reactions are reported, but in reality it's more likely 2.5%. So, those side effects are far more common than we are led to believe.

The Autism thing was the thing that made me look into it further. My way of thinking was and still is, I would rather Caeleb had any one of those diseases than be autistic. It was quite interesting that in the USA, when a particular vaccine was introduced in the 90's cases of autism jumped by 4000%. They took it off the market, reformulated it and re-released it back, saying that the two were not linked. Yeah... right!!!

I guess the major point that hit home for me is that vaccines offer no long term protection. If you had you child tested for vaccine antibodies 12 months down the track, there are none, thus the reason for booster shots and each booster shot becomes less effective. And that your child can actually catch and spread the disease the vaccine is supposed to be protecting them from.

There has been no testing to see if vaccines cause cancer. There have been no studies to look into this either. There has been no testing or studies to see if vaccines damage and alter our DNA. And the companies actually write this on the disclaimer on the product, just no-one bothers to read the small print.

Also, all the additives that are in the vaccines too. Heavy metals, mercury etc. And how they make them. The other viruses that they can't screen them out or test for them when making them. In the 50's, there was an epedemic with a vaccine that was contaminated by a monkey virus (they make the vaccines by growing them in monkey kindey cells amongst others) which causes cancer in humans. 6 million people were given this vaccine.

They basically said that tv campaigns etc and doctors use scare tatics to push us to vaccinate our children. Also, doctors get paid a kickback for vaccinating their patients. They just want to give us both sides of the story, so we can make an informed decision.

[PinkPalace]

Thanks girls for your baby #2 advice i might get dd a baby to play with

As for the immuisation debate! I completely agree with Celsie that you need to be informed about your choices and there is definately no right or wrong choice for your baby!

I am pro-vaccination only because i have seen what these diseases can do if your little one contracts them. There is never any guarantees with immunity given when you have your child vaccinated so please never think that they will never get the disease they are protected against as this is untrue. However it does reduce the chances of contraction and some of the diseases can kill in a matter of days.

BUt like i said i am not being argumentive and i support celsie all the way in helping other mums make informed choices as this is exactly the way it should be I just dont want the mums out there that choose to vaccinate feel that they are doing anything wrong either hugs

[Celsie]

BUt like i said i am not being argumentive and i support celsie all the way in helping other mums make informed choices as this is exactly the way it should be I just dont want the mums out there that choose to vaccinate feel that they are doing anything wrong either hugs

I agree PP. Not being argumentative either. I'm not trying to sway people for or against vaccination. For me, it's an easy decision. I won't do it. I've weighed up both sides and made an informed choice. The thing that annoys me, is that this information wasn't offered to me by my GP or the nurse giving Caeleb the vaccinations. How can anyone be expected to make an informed decision if they don't have all the facts?

I was given a sheet, listing a few possible and common mild side effects that we could expect and told to sign. Signing away any responsibility he doctor or the surgery has. Now, if death, autism, MS, blindness, swelling of the brain etc had been listed as one of those possible side effects, do you think I would have signed?

[Feathertop]

Thanks girls (and boys) for Angus' birthday wishes!! Most unexpected and lovely!

I'm hardly ever on anymore as I am working tons of hours, about 40 per week at present. My husband is also working, and Angus' isn't in childcare, so whenever one of us isn't at work, we're looking after Angus. No time left for anything else really!

Happy birthday to all the babies, I'm sure you all had a wonderful day like we did. If I ever have time again, I'll fill you in and read all the posts.

Hope you are all well and loving your little boys and girls sooooo much (just like I do).

[MumofLewis]

Hi Girls,

Just wondering if all the bubs are on cow's milk now how much are they drinking?

It's just that the last few nights Lewis has been waking after about an hour after his bedtime and I'm wondering if the cow's milk is too heavy. He was on a hypo allergenic formula as he used to get constipated on the normal ones. Now his No.2's are either too hard or too soft so am thinking it's not agreeing with him. He has 200ml when he wakes up, 180ml in the afternoon and 200ml for his bedtime. He also drinks about 50ml of water per day. Should I be giving him less do you think? Or even watering it down a bit?

[Starfish]

Happy belated birthday to Lewis, Angus, Mikayla, Nate, Lee and everyone else who has had a birthday in the last week or so.

I too have not been on here much recently. In the weekend we went up to Coffs Harbour to visit my sister. We flew up there and Diana was very well behaved on both the flights there and back. The trip itself was great too, apart from the fact that we didn't bring Diana's potty, so I had to spend a disproportionate amount of time changing pooey nappies . For some reason, she wouldn't go in the toilet, even when I held her over. Oh well, never mind.

Hope you're all having a great week. Hope too be back soon.

[Celsie]

Sarah - we tried switching Caeleb to cows milk, but he's not too keen, so he's on toddler formula for the moment. We'll try again in a month or so to switch. He did have a few odd poos and tummy aches when we were giving him cows milk. So maybe both he and Lewis aren't quite ready for it yet? He has loads of milk though. A bottle when he wakes up, one after breakfast, one in the afternoon. One at night before bed and one in the night when he wakes and needs a change... so that would be a litre of milk a day, plus water, which he has inbetween, plus he still feeds off me from time to time. No wonder he has so many wet nappies! At least I know he's getting lots of calcium for strong bones.

[MumofLewis]

Yes maybe I should go with infant formula too. I got so excited that he could finally have organic milk
I just read that 16oz of milk is about average for a 12 mopnth old, which is about 480mls but it's a very loose average, more or less is fine. The only bad thing about drinking too much milk is that it can slow the iron absorption down apparently.

DH says maybe it's not the milk at all, maybe his sleep routine is changing and he is going to start going to bed later in the evening. NOOOOOOOOO! I love him going to bed at 7pm, I run out of playtime ideas by then!

[MumofLewis]

Mmm came up twice ..............

[PinkPalace]

MofL
I would cut the milk down to 2 bottles a day
how many sleeps is he having?
DD only has 1 x2hr sleep a day and is bed by 7pm and most nights sleeps through till 7 am (i say this loosely as she has been waking at 3-5am lately as she is getting her back molars through.

[teepee2]

Hi everybody!!! Gee I seemed to have missed so much in the couple of weeks that I havent been on here!

PP & Jen welcome back!!! Its great to hear that Ashley & Mackenzie are doing so well xx

I havent had much time to post recently as things have been a bit rough around here. I'm currently in my second cycle of fertility treatment which is going very slow and doesnt seem to be working And little miss Mikayla just hasnt been sleeping!!! I know she's never been a great sleeper and has always woken frequently during the night but she just seems to be getting worse!!!!

Jen how on earth did you get Tresillian to suggest a 4 night stay???? I have rung both Tresillian and Karitane in tears because we havent been sleeping and I'm struggling to cope but both of them have given me the run around.

Tresillian basically had DH running in circles. They gave him something like 6 numbers to ring (3 of which were disconnected) and the others havent been able to help. They said we have to go and see our local health nurse first and try their sleep & settle classes - which we did when she was 4 months old and they didnt help!!! So we gave up on Tresillian and rang Karitane. Well they were no help either. They said our GP had to ring them first and answer all these questions to see whether we really need the help. Then they said it would be at least a 6 week wait. When I told the lady I didnt think I'd make it another 6 weeks she said "sorry dear there's not much else I can do for you right now" WTF!!!! This woman was on their careline and she told me she couldnt help!!! Now DH & I would never ever do anything to harm Mikayla but I completely understand why there are so many poor children being mistreated and killed out there when their parents are calling out for help and NO-ONE IS LISTENING!!!!!!

So sorry for the rant but I just cant believe that I am having so much trouble getting help and others I know have so easily gotten a place in these clinics. One of the mums in our playgroup rang them a couple of months ago and she got in the following day!! How on earth do they qualify who get in and who doesn't!?!

Well I'd better be off before I drag the mood in here down even further! I hope you are all doing well and will try to get in here more often and keep up with whats happening.

Take care xx

[PinkPalace]

so sorry this is all happening for you.
Surely there is something that can be done.
Is there any community health centres you can get familiar with that can refer you?

i know it sounds drastic... but is there anywhere away from home you an DH can take mikayla (mini holiday) that is availble... i dont know like a retreat for this sort of thing?

[MumofLewis]

What a nightmare Teepee. That's so bad that you haven't been able to find help. What about if you call them back and hopefully get on to someone else that may offer better advice?
Is Mikayla teething and that is why she is worse than normal or has it been getting worse for quite a while? I know with Lewis is teething atm, I never know from sleep to sleep whether he will scream the place down or not. His new habit is this throaty scream that makes him cough it must hurt him that much But I felt another molar poking through today so presume that is the reason for his odd sleep patterns lately. It's his 3rd molar in about a week.

I was told about a place in Sutherland called something Cottage I think, that was a sleep school, not sure if you could find it on the net??

[Charlyfrog]

sorry don't have much time to post as have people arriving shortly but omg Teepee!! Am sending you hugs my sweety......I am so sorry (and ticked!) to hear that you are being given the run around! That's horrid! And I understand what you are saying re: you would never do anything to your little princess but understand how it could happen! What is with these "help lines"?!?!? Grrr! Will be praying that someone's brain finally clicks and offers you some much needed help lovey!! xxx


BBL lovelies!

Mwa!!