LauraB- Yeh that sucks about mothers group. I had the same experience. Maybe you should consider something like yogababy? I am sure they would have something like that in Melbourne. I did that with India when she was a few months old. It is yoga with your baby. You meet other funky mums. And it is great for your body and mind. You can keep doing it for as old as bubs gets. First you can do actual exericises with them and then you can let them play with the other babies in the middle of the room while you enjoy the class. That might be fun for you and baby. As for feeding the little man, all I could suggest is that he may be feeling a little anxious. I know that Seraya feeds of my emotions really intensely. If I am anxious or upset she is too. Maybe you should consult a baby nurse or your GP?
Hope he sorts himself out.
CatherineMoses- Hope your little one settles for you in a nice long block of sleep. Seraya has the odd phase like that, but its usually related to her having a growth spurt and needing lots of food. Or teething.
Luey- I totally forgot you had a cesar too. How are you healing? And anyone else with c sections? Mine is going well. Sometimes I have shooting sharp pains, but I gather its the nerves trying to heal. I am still a little numb near the scar. It can be sore sometimes. Mostly only when one of the girls kicks it. Just when you think they can't do any more damage!!
Well gotta go. Need to eat before bubba wakes me up for boobies. xx
I would like to join the group too....I have another boy to add to this group, Dusty was born on the 18 March, waters broke @ 2.30 am & due to failure to progress he came out of the emergency exit @ 9.35 pm. He was 4.35kg & 54 cm long.
Whew there are a lot of babies born during march and I apologise in advance if I miss someone or mix up the names as it is not deliberate.
DS doesn't sleep very well either, I would be happy with 3 hrs straight sleep but as I keep reminding myself it won't last forever. ATM he will generaly sleep for 1-2 hrs of a morning & then nap for the rest of the day for about 30 mins until about 9.30 pm - 11 pm where he only wakes for a "dream feed" I think they call it he wakes every few hrs for a feed but doesn't wake up. Occasionaly I will put him into bed with us just to get some sleep without having to get up to feed, it makes it easier to snooze while he feeds. I bf on demand, mostly every 2-3 hrs.
Andie: DS was feeding for 20 mins on each side & started to do what Cammie is coming off & on & now he is only on each side for 5-10 mins max, at first I tried to keep on the one side until the time was up but that was just frustring both me & DS. Not sure about teething are there any "blisters" on his gums ?? that is suppose to be a sign
Laura B: DS only poos every few days now & I think it just builds up though, like your 5 day surprise. When I was first told that BF babies only poo every few days or so I couldn't wait but now I think I wish he would go at least once a day. I think your little one's fussiness at the moment is that he is probably very distracted & interested in the world around him as my DS is the same, not quite so bad but everytime I am on the phone he thinks I am talking to him & keeps trying to talk to me instead of feeding.
About the mothers group there could be a young mothers group in your area speak to your community nurse or GP. I finally plucked up the courage to go to the local playgroup & as I am in the country things seem a bit more relaxed which is good!!
All-boys: I like your boys name, we had a few strange looks & comments when we chose Dusty, I didn't know about Dusty Springfield who is a girl apparently but I figure Kim/ Peter/Jodi/Toni etc... can be either so why can't Dusty!! & we had decided on Dusty before Slim Dusty died but everyone seems to think it is a tribute to him but you get that!!
Rustygirl: I checked out your blog & your boy is beautiful, I think it is amazing that they can go from skinny little mites to chubby little buddas in such a short amount of time!!
Bec: I think you are amazing for reestablishing BF, keep at it & let us know how you go!
Luey: My sister warned me about mummy guilt, I didn't believe her but I understand now. I think my DS seems to have reflux sometimes & I'm sure you've tried everything but I will add my 2 cents worth anyway. I find it hard to burp him most of the time but persist, generally for at least 5 mins or more & put him on his tummy after a feed, & that seems to have improved things. This is not to say that he isn't unsettled sometimes & he will still throw up the curdled milk & wake up crying etc... just something to try.
Reenie: My scar has healed well but have found lately that I am getting pain occasionally in that area also AF still hasn't arrived not sure if this is because I am BF or the C-section any ideas anyone?? (sorry if TMI)
I was also wondering if anyone has thought about introducing SOLIDS yet?? more a exploration thing than replacing a BF- Just wondering what where everyone is upto there??
ALSO how long do are your bubs between sleeps, I am putting DS to sleep after about 1&1/2 hrs but seems to fight & I was thinking I should stretch it out a bit??
Thanks for your advise.Part of it is definitely being more alert.He is always looking around during feeds and playing with my hair.
Emergency ceasar must have been very scary.That was the thing I was most worried about.How was the healing?
My labor wasn't what I expected either! My contractions started at 10am on the 29th and became really painful and 5 mins apart at about 7pm.We went to the hospital but at about 3am the slowed to 10 mins apart and when they checked me at 9 am I was only 2cm and was sent home for another day of agony!I went back in at about 7pm on the 30th where they didn't even check me until 9am on the 31st!!only 4cm so they broke my waters.At about 12 they checked and was still 4cm.It then got really bad..1 non-stop contraction,I dilated to 10cm in 20 minutes and gave birth at 1:25pm.All up 50 hours.
I still don't understand why they didn't break my waters the first morning.
What was everybody Else's labors like??
Wow another boy! It's the same in my MG. 11 mums but only 2 girls! There's gonna be a lot of competition in 15 or so years!!!
Welcome njd Flynn is usually doing about 1- 1.5 hrs between daytime sleeps. I tend to play it by ear and wait until he seems tired so sometimes it is longer than that. Sometimes even tho I know he is tired he fights and fights going to sleep (it's like he is afraid he is going to miss out on something fun!!) When he is like that I usually wrap him up and put him in the rocker and he usually drifts off in there, so much better than crying!! Haven't tried any solids here, my mum keeps telling me I should start but the MCHN suggested not until about 5mths. I'm sure Flynn would happily gobble up solids, but I'm probably gonna wait a bit longer. Laura My labour was a lot easier than I expected! I had little niggles from the time I woke up on the 16th but didn't really think anything of them (I was convinced he would be about 2 weeks late!) It was really hot that day and I came home and read the paper and had a cool bath. The pains were very tolerable. I fell asleep in front of the air con! At around 5pm I rang the hospital to ask if they thought I was in labour - I still wasn't convinced that this was it! They said yeah it sounds like it but give it a while, make sure they are getting closer together and longer etc. At around 8pm I begged my DH to get us some pizza!! I had a few pieces and vomited, the pains were getting worse now! We went to the hospital at around 10pm. I was 7cm dilated then. I had the gas and had the CTG monitor on for most of the time. My waters didn't break until I started pushing, that was a bit scary! I needed to have an episiotomy cos there was meconium in the fluid and bubs hb got very slow and they wanted him out ASAP. So Flynn was born at about 3:00, weighing in at 8lb 2oz, on the 17th of March - which was his due date!!
It sounds a bit like Sam may be having a growth spurt (did someone already say that??) Hopefully he will be more reasonable soon. Hang in there girl
I think that's enough for now! Hope you are all well.
Woh ... things have moved at lightning speed in this thread since I was last on two days ago!!! Welcome njd!
Mel - darlin' you sure need a . Things will turn around for you and your family soon, I'm sure (... er, if you're into prayers, then St Monica is the patron saint of mothers! Thank my catholic school education for this genuine pearl of wisdom). Truly hope things settle down in your household. You know where we are whenever you need to let it all hang out. How's Emily's ears now?
Hayley - I'm hearing you about our bubs starting to assert themselves. I wouldn't say Cam "demands" anything (god forbid!), but I've seen a couple of flashes of temper/frustration.
Nina and CM - a bugger about Cohen and Flynn's sleeping habits. I'm no real help with advice in this department (... pls, don't throw rotten cyber eggs at me!) So far Cam is still sleeping approx 10 hours a night. Some days he has 'sleepy days', where he may have a couple of sleeps of 2-3 hours - other days he doesn't have any more than a couple of 20-30 mins sleeps. I go with the flow but am relieved he's sleeping at night. Of course, I realise all that may change in the blink of an eye ... Good luck with getting your bubs settled/asleep for longer periods at night.
Reenie and LauraB - sorry to hear your MG experiences weren't great, but in defence of older mums, were not ALL obsessed with prams and "one-upping". Promise . Of course, MY son is now walking and talking and will soon be going to university ... .
Reenie, good luck with renovating, starting uni and moving - you're more game than I'd be! Good on you for hosting a mothers group at your house ... I need to get in touch with playgroup or something similar over this side of the city. I love BB but it would be great to have a natter (and a coffee) face-to-face with some other mums.
LauraB - I posted my birthing experience in the birth stories. Sorry, I'm useless with links but think I called it Cameron James' natural birth 16/03/08. Suffice to say, I had a pretty quick labour (approx 5 hours) and had the birth I wanted, being no intervention and no drugs. I was lucky that everything "went to plan", but feel that the HyonoBirthing course DH and I attended plus relaxation/breathing exercises at home, helped. All in all, a good experience which I'd gladly repeat (hopefully in the not tooooo distant future, all being well). Sorry to hear Sam's feeding is a bit off - I can relate to some extent. Cam's feeding habits have definitely changed in the past couple of weeks in that he pulls off and on more than ever, and he doesn't need a full 10 mins from both breasts. All we can do is persist, I reckon, and hope it's just a "phase" ... Good luck with it.
Luey - glad to hear that Ethan has found some relief, but sounds like you've still a little way to go before his reflux (or whatever it may be) is totally sorted? I'm sure it isn't nice seeing your darling baby unhappy ... keep up the good work. Hope he (and his mummy) start to get some further relief soon.
Hi to Bec - sorry to hear about Jake's illness. Hope things ok and hope to hear from you soon.
Njd - no solids here yet. Cam is showing great interest in the food I eat, but I hear that's pretty normal for bubs his age. I'm not planning to introduce solids until 6 months providing we keep BFing with ease.
All-boys - hope all well with you and your brood!
I bought Cam a teething ring today. I read up on teething in Robin Barker's "Baby Love" book (almost my bible in the early days). She indicates that, like colic, "teething" is a slightly overused term that explains away unexplained crying. Similar, I think, to what you are saying Hayley. Anyway, I'm not getting hung up about whether or not Cammie is teething. However, I saw Cam rubbing his dummy backwards and forwards over his gums a few times yesterday, so I suspect something may be happening in that department. Time will tell, but hopefully the teething ring will provide him with whatever relief/relaxation he is needing.
Hope I've covered everyone in the personals ... our "little" group (as we used to say) has really taken off .... the more, the merrier !
Mel - just saw your post. Glad to hear Emily is feeling better. Tresillian sounds like a lot of running around, but will be good if it helps James and you. Thanks for the update on Bec. Take it easy there.
Hi girls. Just a quick pop in since its almost midnight and i have an early start tomorrow.
Catherinemoses I just realised that our bubs were born on the same day. St Pattys day babies
Welcome to NJD It certainly is getting packed in here. I feel like I have to post at least twice a day to try and keep up!!
Yeh mine was an elective cesar. Mostly it was in both mine and bubs best interest. Now I have had one type of birth each, vag and c, I wouldn't reccommend either!
Oh and I am not sure if it was you or someone else but I am not giving any solids until 6 months. I was advised by my paed allergist to start introducing a thumbnail sized portion of weet bix from 4 mnths and this helps their digestive system prepare for wheat, and kind of scares away wheat allergies. My DD India who is 2 needs to carry an epi pen jnr, is allergic to wheat, dairy, eggs, nuts and soy amongst other things, plus has asthma and excema so I am going to give it a go and see what happens. But yeah will be interested to see if Seraya inherits any of that. Hopefully not. One child with those ailments is enough of a night mare!!
Can anyone else relate to this with older children?
Laurab-Tried to induce me but it didn't take. So had cesar a week later. My birth story is on my blog... www.reeniescornerofthestar.blogspot.com complete with up to date pics.
Mel Wow to you ! I dont know how you do it! I would be a wreck! You are amazing!! I am one cranky sasquatch if I don't get my 8 hours sleep. Thank god these girls are little sleepaholics. Great at self soothing too. Makes it easier. Makes me feel like a terrible mum sometimes. Cos they don't need me!! hehe. Guess I should be thank ful.
Andie- I know not all older mamas are like that!! I think its mostly the side of town I am on. We are bit further from the city so the demographic is a little different. It is mostly older mums out here who are obsessed with their kids, and getting out to play golf with their hubbys. Must be nice heh.
If you ever want to catch up, I am only 20 mins from your side of town. I am thinking morningside or there abouts? Would be nice to get the babies together.
Well sorry if I missed anyone. And we miss you in here Bec! Well better get to bed. DUI court thingy early in the morning. for the best but preparing for the worst. WIll keep you posted. Literally.
to all the girls. (And boys!!)
Last edited by Reenie; July 9th, 2008 at 12:00 AM.
Wow it is flying along in here isnt it? So many March babies. Thank you for the compliments on Scouts name. Its really nice to hear as we have had some not so positive comments on it. You know the "oh, thats different" "what!!!" "hmmmm" but we liked it so thats what matters . Just as im sure Nicole and Keith like there Sunday Roast, I mean Rose! lol
I feel for all you poor mums having a bad time of it at the moment. Almost guilty really as Scout is my dream baby, its like they wrote all those books about him. He is doing what he is supposed to when he is supposed to. Fingers, toes, arms and legs crossed it lasts! Honestly I could have 10 more if it was guaranteed they would be like him.
I would much rather have a baby than the snotty horrors that I have home on holidays at the moment. Pre teen boys have to be the most trying species in the world.
Laura I can totally understand the mothers group stigma thing. I think its the reason I dont really get into playgroups which is a shame really but im not into comparing my baby to yours. I want to talk about other things not just my boys, make me feel like Stacey not just Mum.
Well I hope everyones days are good with not too many hair pulling episodes. As for me I am about to have one now as it is bedroom cleaning time!
Wish me luck
Hi Girls
I wondered why it was so quiet in here. It didn't occur to me maybe it was time to change threads
Boy what a few weeks we've had. First of all Isabella decided out of the blue she wouldn't feed properly. She would latch on great but after 10 mins or so one side she didn't want anymore and start screaming so I put her onto the other side and then she was fine. I thought I had better get Isabella and she only put on 30grams for the week. The baby nurse said I had to feed Isabella when ever she wanted it. That could be after 2 hours. I felt I had my boobs hanging out all day. Well it paid off and Isabella gained 210grams the next week I was so happy. As from Friday 4th July, Isabella was 4.95kg.
On Sunday night I had a phone call so say Mick (hubby) had a truck accident and was taken to hosp by ambulance. I was in a state of shock. I rang the neighbours and they came and took Riley for the night and I took Isabella to hosp as she needed feeding. I was a mess. One of Mick's work mates came and took me to hospital as I don't think I couldn't driven there myself. All is good, Mick just had some cuts and bruises. The police said he was quite lucky to walk out of the accident as the steering wheel was wedged against the seat. Isabella was so good at the hosp, I couldn't asked for more, she was great and all the nurses and doctors thought she was just beautiful.
Riley has been all out of sorts lately. Waking more then once thru the night which is not normally like him, he has been off his a little bit lately and constantly whinges. There is nothing I can put my finger on - maybe he is getting his 2yr old molars. Hopefully they will come thru soon.
I had better go and do the dishes as it will be time to feed Isabella again. Sorry for the lack of personals. I hope everyone is well.
Take Care
Jo
gosh lots of new faces in here, its great to see ! welcome njd
Reenie: i was wondering what was happening with you because i had a quick look at your facebook page and you didnt sound too happy about something ! you sound like you have so much going on, good on you for starting uni at such a busy time and with such little children, how long will the course take you ? hows things with DH ? James is a different boy during the day, he is generally in a great mood and loves to laugh out loud a lot (something i havent been able to say much) nights still arent good, he wakes anywhere between 1.5-3 hours, never really much more of a stretch than that.
Laura: i forgot to mention in my post that the ear infection is something my 2 year old daughter has, we have had a really back run of sickness lately but kids bounce back really quickly and she is chatting away in her room as i type this still awake so we are back to normal lol
also i had a really quick labour (my first was induced, i have really complicated pregnancies, and that was quick so i suspected this time would be quicker) i had a check up at the hospital at about 1pm at just over 37 weeks and was having period pain then, came home got in the bath for a bit (luckily my mum was here minding my DD) and called for my hubby to come home from work and by the time he got here (about 330pm) they really hit me, we got to the hospital at 355pm and James was born at 423pm, think my hubby was a tad nervous driving there that we werent going to make it in time !
i remember my DD being distracted when feeding around this age, they are just so much more aware of other things going on it seems hard to concentrate at the job at hand lol
njd: we wont be starting solids until 6 months, we have a family history of asthma and allergies (hay fever etc) so thats my reasoning behind it, although James is very interested when we eat around him !
Luey: poor E (do you use his initial because you dont want his whole name on BB ?) its so hard when they cant tell you what the problem is, i hope things continue to improve for you with the mylanta. i rang tresillian today to confirm my referral (seriously how ridiculous that i had to do that) and the next step is i have to have a phone interview with them next wed (i have to call them for that too !) and then i guess form there they decide how urgent it is i get into one of the residential units ! clearly they make it so difficult for a reason....????!!!! i still think we would benefit going (although things are MUCH improved on what they were) he slept 3 hours straight this afternoon but nights are bad so im not sure i will go through with the whole upheaval going to stay for a week will cause here (ie hubby taking a week off work or sending DD to grandparents, which i wouldnt do for the whole week)
Hayley: good to hear from you, i hope things with DH are ok, you cope amazingly well with 4 little ones ! yes we should meet up one of these days !
hi Nina
Andie: would love to see some pics of Cam at the christening when you have time
Catherine: thanks for the hugs ! good to hear you weren't diagnosed with PCOS
Bec will still be missing with computer problems for a bit longer but Jake is doing ok and she is going well with relactating, she will have a new email address when she gets back and she asked me to tell you all so i will send you all an email privately for you to update your list(to the new girls, we also contact each other via email, mostly to share photos of our cherubs but also as a back up when BB isn't working well, so if you girl want to be added to the email list just PM me your email addresses and i will add you on and send you everyone elses address)
i better get tidying up and to bed while the little one is sleeping !
as a reply to the sleeping through the night. seth has slept throught the night since he was about 6 weeks old. goes to bed at 10-10.30 and wakes around 7.30-8
luvin it
jo- glad to hear that mick is fine besides minor cuts and scratches!!! gosh what a freak out you must have had.
the self settling thing seems to be working during the day, but lastnight cohen sat in his cot after a bottle from 1:30 am till 3:15 this morn tilll i put him in our bed where he went straight to sleep within 10 mins!!! arghhhh!! what do i do???
Mel- Thanks for your concern Btw- your pic of the two little angels was gorgeous. They are both so cute!
I went okay I guess. As good as it gets. I got suspended from driving for 2 months and a $300 fine. Which really craps me. Since I spent $350 on Lionel Hutz to represent me. Iw ould've preferred a higher fine and less time off the road. For those of you who don't know. I got caught a few weeks ago, on 0.005 BAC which is the legal limit! But they felt the need to keep up thier quotas for the night and book me for it. I tried to make a point of saying that my toddler is in and out of hospital all the time and this will seriously impact on my role as a mother. But apprently being a mother is not as important has having a 'real' job. HMPF!!
Anyways it will at least force me to walk and take public transport for uni. I have decided I will reward myself with driving again, but being about 5kgs lighter and fitter from walking Just means that DH will be the driver to take us shopping etc. More of a punishment for him really.
Rustygirl- Know how hard it can be. When Seraya was about 6 weeks old I had to get her out of sleeping in our bed. I am glad I stuck it out. As my paed says, the longer you leave it the harder it will be. He made a point of saying that crying does not hurt them. I know its hard to hear them crying but it does get easier and less with time. I tought that it would be cruel and would teach them you won't be there for them but that really is a bit of bull fluff. Babies really don't have the emotional capacity or neural pathways established to feel like they are being abandoned. They are smarter then we give them credit for and soon work out if they cry, they get what they want. I am proud to say I stuck it out with both of the girls and the are best behaved now. They both have been able to self soothe from 6 weeks old. I never have to rock Seraya to sleep, neither does she rely on a dummy. It is only ever a little bit shaky when she is teething badly, but nurofen for babies and some booby milk fixes her up. :goodluck2: with it. I know its hard! Hope it works out for you and bubby.
Jo- Glad to hear Isabella is putting on weight again. I am pretty slack. I only weigh mine at needle dates. I can see her getting quiet chubby so that is good enough for me. Otherwise I think I would stress out too much. Riley might be getting used to having number 2 around. I know it would be a delayed reaction. But I know that India only recently went through the same thing. Could have been her molars, but a few other mothers seemed to think thats what they went through with their older siblings about 2-3 months after baby 2 came along. I guess the novelty wears off and they realise that they will never have all of mummys undevided attention again. She starting chucking 2yr old wobblys. Thankfully that only lasted a week!
Also sorry to hear about DH. Glad he is okay! That would've been rough for both of you! :hugs:
Hello to every one! Sorry must run. Seraya is looking for me and starting to get very vocal. She likes attention at 10pm every night. As long as you sit next to her she is happy. Strange. to all. SOrry I couldnt do more personals. must go. xx
but as I keep reminding myself it won't last forever. ATM he will generaly sleep for 1-2 hrs of a morning & then nap for the rest of the day for about 30 mins until about 9.30 pm - 11 pm where he only wakes for a "dream feed" I think they call it he wakes every few hrs for a feed but doesn't wake up. Occasionaly I will put him into bed with us just to get some sleep without having to get up to feed, it makes it easier to snooze while he feeds. I bf on demand, mostly every 2-3 hrs.
) Hopefully he will be more reasonable soon. Hang in there girl 
. Things will turn around for you and your family soon, I'm sure (... er, if you're into prayers, then St Monica is the patron saint of mothers! Thank my catholic school education for this genuine pearl of wisdom). Truly hope things settle down in your household. You know where we are whenever you need to let it all hang out. How's Emily's ears now?
. Of course, MY son is now walking and talking and will soon be going to university ... 
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... keep up the good work. Hope he (and his mummy) start to get some further relief soon.
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I was so happy. As from Friday 4th July, Isabella was 4.95kg.
I tried to make a point of saying that my toddler is in and out of hospital all the time and this will seriously impact on my role as a mother. But apprently being a mother is not as important has having a 'real' job. HMPF!!
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