Babies Born October 2007 #15

**LadyRaven** · January 24th, 2008, 06:01 AM

Heya all,

Didn't get a chance to get on much last night was exhausted so just typin a quick one this morning.

I'm ok I just hate people treating me like an idiot they kept saying that there was no reason to panic and I kept asking "panic about what??" one of the nurses asked if I had been TTC and I said no I just had one and she said better luck next time! They must think I have the IQ of a rusty teaspoon!

Becky-no wasn't trying to actively have another any time soon we were just being naughty here and there but would've kept and loved another, sort of glad in a way that it's not happening now but I look at Ryan and think that could of been a cute pudgey little brother or sister but at the same time know that usually miscarries that early are because the baby isn't healthy and is for the best. I'm just happy it's after Ryan not before or I'd have been so much more stressed out with Ryan

Anyways thank you all for your comfort and kind words gotta take monkey to daycare and off to work, not really supposed to but I can sit at home in front of a computer feeling crappy or do the same at work and get paid for it

Also I lost my keys!! So peeved! Had to rip the lock out of my car to get new ones cut and now the central locking doesnt work...AHHHH what a bleep week

**~kellie~** · January 24th, 2008, 08:15 AM

Viv - does James stay asleep once you put him down after walking around with him? Tahlia seems to wake up as soon as I put her down.... the MCHN said that maybe I am letting her get to overtired and then she is furious when she wakes??? what do you think? I'm with you... I dont mind cuddling her to sleep, as long as she sleeps when I put her down! She is the same with night vs day.... at night I rock her to sleep and she can sleep for 10 hours

Mo - hope your feeling better soon

Kim, Trish and Mo - seems like the botanical gardens is the place then... what dates suit you guys? At this stage, I'm not available the weekend of 16-17 Feb

**Khaleesi** · January 24th, 2008, 08:34 AM

I'm happy for whatever dates you ladies want, i might not be able to make it depending on how i feel.
If you make it soon you make be able to actually see me with colour in my face instead of being so pale

Trish it's all part of my illness & I'm being to think it may be the medication I'm on as-well.
I'm off to the hospital at 12pm, hoping to be back late tonight.
Thanks for the well wishes everyone

Does anyone know why Cath is upset? I see she deleted her account on here & has a upset title on FB.

**YoYo** · January 24th, 2008, 09:05 AM

Morning everyone

Viv You are hillarious! If you bub is happy and sleeping well at night, then you are obviously doing a great job regardless of whether you rock him to sleep or not. Must admit I do enjoy my cuddles with Max too before he goes to sleep. If you do want him to go to sleep in his cot though, maybe you can try changing his sleeping posi? I know with Max he is out like a light if he's asleep on his tum. He is more of a prob when he is on his back. If you have a spewer too I don't think they like being on their backs so much.....But hey....I don't know that for a fact. You just gotta do what works!

Kim Max did a much better sleep last night. Only took me 25 mins to get him down. I think I'm coming out of the horror cycle where he grew horns for a few days. He is back to feeding 7pm to 7am!! I have the biggest boobs in the morning...it even hurts my back carrying them around!!

Saffi All that pumping you must feel like a right jersey cow!! I crack up at myself every time I express.....it is so unattractive!

Have a good day everyone...we have ANOTHER hot day on the cards....so sick of it...need some rain!!!

**boomba** · January 24th, 2008, 09:41 AM

Mo no idea why ctah is upset? Hope she is ok! Big hugs to you Cath! Hope your stay in hospital is ok!

x

**ninja_turtle** · January 24th, 2008, 10:26 AM

*ding ding* round 2.

so this morning i thought i'd try it the 'baby whisperer's' way for his morning nap. great. we BOTH ended up in tears. it's just too horrible to contemplate.

to answer some questions:

yes he does stay asleep almost always. i realise that i only rock him to dozey/heavy eyes then usually he goes the rest of the way himself. usually he's spat the dummy while i'm rocking so i put that away and he's fine. sometimes he'll grizzle and i'll rub his head. he's not dependent on dummy at all and doesn't wake up wanting it.

i think i've given myself too much grief over this.

he has never seemed to wake up wondering where i am, or where he is, it's usually his piggy guts that wakes him up on the hunt for milk (or DH blasting the coffee grinder... *grumble*).

up the baby whisperer with a hose, i say.

i think whoever said it (maybe saffi) is right -it will take time and i'll do baby steps. i'll just reduce the fitball bouncing time and increase the in-cot pat time but let him put himself off each time. he's still asleep now. god knows it's better than that crying fiasco this morning. Mr DH "Bad Parent" is happy to support me no matter what i choose (which usually means i do whatever i want and he doesn't get mad at me).

as for the type of lawyer... i'm technically everything and nothing because i haven't specialised yet. i'm trained in it all and have most experience in property and personal injury litigation. i'll have to wait and see what happens about law stuff v james.

**misskate** · January 24th, 2008, 10:36 AM

haha viv, what does the baby whispered make you do?

**ninja_turtle** · January 24th, 2008, 10:43 AM

she's pretty onto it in most regards. it's quite a moderate approach between Ferber's 'cry it out' and Sears' attachment parenting.

she advocates e-a-s-y - which is getting the baby in a routine that consists of:

e = eating every 2.5 to 3 horus
a = activity for 45 minutes
s = catching their tired signs and putting them to sleep
y = you time

her method is to pick up a crying baby, or pat or soothe them only until they're calm, not until they're fully asleep. she claims you can retrain a baby in 3 days if under 3 months, and longer for older babies.

she is a midwife with lots of good advice, i just don't think james is ready to dive into a new-fangled sleep method just yet. she does describe babies like him and said she had to pick up and put down that baby 126 times one night to settle him.

i was in tears after picking him up 3 or 4 times. don't have the guts for it, i'm afraid.

after all, those babies won't sleep at night and ol chuckasui does. i believe in going with your instincts. if you stuff it up and create a rod for your back, so be it, i guess. if you don't make one mistake, you're only going to make another.

**misskate** · January 24th, 2008, 10:54 AM

true that. well i think i have to start wrappiing lachlan for his day sleeps now. havent wrapped him at all since hospital and the last week has been really hard putting him down for his day sleeps so fun times for me

**Willow** · January 24th, 2008, 11:00 AM

Must be fun times for us all! DS has had crappy day sleeps today, waking after one sleep cycle (40 mins for him) and I haven't been able to resettle him. Also, the last two nights he's waking every 2-2.5 hours from midnight to 6am. WTF?? He was doing 3-4 hour blocks before this. I have no idea what's going on but I'm getting tired again!

Trish - I know that you and I use very similar settling/sleeping techniques so have a question for you - if K wakes after one sleep cycle and you try to resettle him for some time (say 30-40 mins) and he still won't resettle, what do you do with him? Do you get him up? If so, what do you do with him once he's up?!

**Rebecca77** · January 24th, 2008, 12:49 PM

Well I guess in one way I am lucky having Caitlyn in daycare. They put her down for a few 20 mins sleeps every day and at night she sleeps like an angel for about 9 hours. The weekends tend to throw her though - we wrap her at midday and let her have a long sleep - 1.5 to 2 hours. But most of the time they are short unwrapped naps.
I cuddle Caitlyn to sleep. I wait till she is pretty much all the way asleep and then she goes into her cot. She normally wakes once i put her head down but after standing over her for about 2 minutes she falls back asleep and stays that way.
AF - Been back twice now

but no dramas with it.
Am still at work with still nothing to do....am browsing bellybelly reading all sorts of things!
Have a great day all MWAHA

**Saffi** · January 24th, 2008, 01:03 PM

Ok - up front let me apologise for infering that anyone who remembers Michael Hutchence is old.

Carp night last night. L woke at 2am, as is his habit, and I put his dummy in and he went back to sleep. Ok. So at 3.45am he wakes again. I try to settle him, wrap him, change him etc - not looking to go to sleep anytime soon. So I figure he needs a feed. That done, I put him down. He is unsettled, spitting his dummy out etc. He had hiccups - for over an hour. I don't care that everyone says it doesn't worry babies - it does! He wouldn't sleep. In the end fed him for the third time and he fell asleep and no hiccups. So I got to bed just before 5am and up at 7.30!

Been an angel today tho. Dragged him out to the shops and he was very well behaved and have just got home and he has gone down for a sleep. Such a good little boy.

Viv - we have the second Baby Whisperer book. DH bought it and has read much of it. I haven't read it yet. Probably would learn something if I did.

Hope everyone is having a good Thursday.

**~Trish~** · January 24th, 2008, 01:21 PM

Afternoon all!

I spent the morning and lunchtime at my sister's. She has a 2yo DS who loves to play with Joel and her DD is 10 weeks old so we had a fun time swapping stories! Kieran had a good sleep there and slept in the car on the way home, but when we got home he wouldn't settle back in bed so I just fed him and gave him some wake time. He's gone to sleep now, fingers crossed he has a nice sleep! I have a customer coming soon so hopefully he sleeps through it.

Willow - If Kieran just won't settle and it is too soon for a feed (i.e he's not really hungry) I get him up and put him in his baby swing, he doesn't go back to sleep, but he has some nice quiet time for half an hour, then I feed him again and our routine just changes for the day. It is frustrating when you have things planned for the day though!! Hope you get a better night with him tonight!

Saffi - Hee hee, I didn't really take offence at your Michael Hutchence comments, I was just stirring! It frightens me how fast time goes. Hope you and L get a better night tonight too!

Viv - You're doing a great job! Who knew that settling a baby could be so physically and emotionally exhausting! I don't know any mum who has just cruised through it. Perserverence is the key, I think once babies start to learn what to expect at naptime they settle down and get the hang of it.

Julia - Glad to hear Max is getting back on track for you. What a good o'night sleeper he is!

Mo - All the best today at the hospital. I hope you get well very soon.

Kellie - Bot. Gardens it is. I am free up until the 22nd of Feb, then I'm going away for a week.

Celtic - I hope you start to feel better soon

Kim - Glad to hear the girls are going so well! Hope you all get better soon.

Nic - Wow, you are superwomen doing all you are doing by yourself! I hope you get to have some rest soon.

Well, better run. Customer will be here any minute, hope she buys something!

becky · January 24th, 2008, 02:39 PM

Hey all!

Celtic - Im still sorry for you.

But like you said, I guess it all happens for a reason, and this bubba just wasnt healthy enough. a blessing in a way I guess. I hope you are ok. X

Mo - Good luck in hospital! Hope your ok.

Kim- What a champion post! Dont think you forgot anyone! You thinking of putting Chels in a bed anytime soon (we probably have had that conversation, but I still suffer from SCBB - Severe Case of Baby Brain!)

Amber - Great to catch up with ya! Must do it again soon...

Not sure why Cath is upset. Hope your ok Cath!