Gosh I've never used a floaty ring or bubble or anything with the kids, I just don't like any of them - bubbles are a bugger for stopping them getting up if they do end up slipping in the pool and all the vests just seem too bulky. We went swimming the other day and Alister slipped and went under a few times but I just fish him out and away he goes again. I think they can bugger up their water confidence to an extent too - I've known kids get to the stage where they just can't get in the pool without them kwim? Occasionally they use a pool noodle though.

H, I'm happy that it all went well. It's hard to see them go under isn't it?

Clare, oh hun please don't dwell too much on what could have been when you had L. Going through that has made you the mummy you are now and L wouldn't change you for the world.