Do you believe in evolution or what your holy book says?

[Phteven]

I don't see any conflict. There are a number of passages in the Quran that talk about the planets coming together from dust and life coming from mud and so on which are pretty similar to our current understanding of planetary co-elscance and the origins of life. There is another passage that talks about a day to God being as a millenium to us.
My understanding is that Allah created the evolutionary process just as he created everything else. I'm often amazed at the way that things that would have seemed like gibberish at the time of revelation make prefect sense now.

[Heaven]

I'm with Nelle. I believe exactly what the Bible tells me is true.

Creationism and evolution... how can both work together?

[butterfly_warrior]

I am a scientist. I am a Christian. The two are not mutually exclusive.

I do not believe evolution to be fact. For that matter, science doesn't either - it is only a theory after all.

I do believe that God created the world and everything in it. God also created time, so doing it in seven days is not beyond His capabilities.

Personally, I think it's very presumptuous of us to limit God's abilities and say it's not possible for Him to have created the world in such a short time...

I don't know whether this has fully answered your question or whether my perspective is too Christian to be of much use to you.

BW

[lady lala]

Whilst I lean towards evolutionary theory I'm not really deeply attached to the idea.
I often wonder how those who passionately believe either one or the other POV would feel if the POV they supported was conclusively disproved.
Would the non-religious get faith?
Would the religious feel their faith was a lie?

[Turkish Delight]

I don't know whether this has fully answered your question or whether my perspective is too Christian to be of much use to you.

I'm not concerned if your viewpoint is Christian, Muslim, Jew etc... I was just curious to know which side of "creation" people believed in.

The theory of evolution sounds more logical than being created from mud as per the Koran. I most certainly believe in the power of God/Allah (however you want to read it).

You are such a knowledgable woman Bron. I admire you. Now, i guess can incorporate Allah's word into my evolution theory...

My understanding is that Allah created the evolutionary process just as he created everything else. -Brontide

Thanks

[Girl-23]

The theory of evolution sounds more logical than being created from mud as per the Koran. I most certainly believe in the power of God/Allah (however you want to read it).

You believe in Evolution and Allah? Or both? Do you believe in one more than the other?

[Girl-23]

I believe in the Holy Quran. The theory of evolution has no support in Islam. Allah the Almighty created, Adam, the first man from scratch. He was not evolved from any other creation of Allah. Allah created humans and animals from the Earth's dust: 'From the (earth) did We Create you, and into it Shall We return you, And from it shall We Bring you out once again (The Noble Quran, 20:55)'. Allah informed the Angel's he was creating a man from mud moulded, breathed soul into him and they all then prostrated before Adam.

Do you believe that God has pre-determined when we will die before/as we are born or do we control as to when we are going to die?

Indeed, Allah is the best planner. Allah plans when we are born and death. However, the will of man does exist. Here is an interesting article I found that explains it perfectly.

Jabr and Qadr in Islam (Free Will vs. Predetermination) - Windows Live

The will of man does exist, and yet the will of Allah is all-encompassing. How do we explain the co-existence of both wills simultaneously? Man's limited free will exists because Allah has allowed it, and it is limited in the sense that man's will is subject to God's. You may 'will' to sprout wings and fly, but good luck buddy. Allah wills for His creations what He wants, and since His supersedes yours, you may never get off the ground.

Or more realistically, you may 'will' to take your car from point A to point B, and you may do everything in your abilities (your abilities also being allowed to you by the will of God) but God willed that someone else should crash into you somewhere in the middle and you never make it to your destination.

There's a difference between your will and God's. You're only judged on what you do, not what happens to you. It's the difference between poking yourself in the eye with a fork deliberately or having a fork fly at you in a freak accident. No one will call you self-destructive in the second case, because it's not like it was your fault or will.

[Phteven]

I believe in the Holy Quran. The theory of evolution has no support in Islam.

That's not quite true. If scholars of the calibre Nuh Ha Mim Keller argue that belief in macro-evolutionary transformation and variation of non-human species is compatible with Islam then clearly the theory of evolution does have support in Islam.

[Floweryfields]

I'm with Nelle. I believe exactly what the Bible tells me is true.

Creationism and evolution... how can both work together?

Yep me too.

[HotI]

My understanding is that Allah created the evolutionary process just as he created everything else. I'm often amazed at the way that things that would have seemed like gibberish at the time of revelation make prefect sense now.

This is where my thoughts lead me too.

[luna moth]

+1 to brontide's post - it is so easy for the two theories to co-exist.

The original Hebrew word for "day" can translate to mean "period of time" which doesn't necessarily mean 24 hours, but can mean a million years. So they fit together pretty nicely

Another idea - Higgs' particles, the ones that they're trying to isolate with the LHC - currently an unexplained force. I like to simplify that and sort of think of that as a "god force"

[Phteven]

TD have you read Shaikh Nuh Ha Mim Keller's writing about evolution? He's a scholar of Islam and follows pretty traditional methods and his reading of scientific texts and the Arabic of the Quran is that evolution occured in all things except for humans which are a special and were placed on the Earth without any prior evolution.