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  1. #1
    Registered User

    Apr 2004
    Outer East, Melbourne
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    My Alex asks for noodles every night. I put sausages in them for a while and now can put cut up chops or chicken in there. Every meat is called chicken though, except for strasbourg from the deli, that's square ham.

    There was talk back there about SPD and how a lot of ASD kids have sensory issues as well. Can it work the other way around, can you just have sensory issues without the ASD ? Are kids SPD 'on the spectrum' ? We first saw a paed OT when he was 2.5 and she said SPD and then the paed. said high functioning ASD when he was 3. I agree with the sensory issues, but sometimes wonder about the ASD - is it that or is it just Alex ? His sensory issues are mostly hearing, touch and food related. Loud or unexpected noises can send him hysterical, exp the ****atoos around here. He won't wear denim either, long sleeves and legs in summer, BIG issues with socks and haircuts, blanket and doona all year round (loves the weight) and very rigid with food. I cried last year when he ate watermelon for the first time even though he looked like he was eating razor blades. And the proprioceptive issues - he's very sensory seeking - bumping, wrapping, falling over etc.

    We saw a psychologist last week for testing prior to school next year. In the IQ test he was in the average range for the visual section and below average in the verbal section - not surprised at either of those. She has to send out the Vineland assessment and we go back for the CARS one at the end of the month.

    Al's first obsession was Thomas the Tank - he never left the house without a book or a toy, watched videos over and over, lined them up in his order, used to list over and over the names of trains, very rigid in his play. He liked Bob the Builder in a more 'normal' way and now he's into Ben 10. He never used to like the scary Thomas' (ones with night scenes or the odd ghost) but he likes the action in Ben 10 - but I figure this time around it's because that's what he is seeking, the jumping and crashing and karate chopping walls and furniture. But this time I know and I can use it for good and not evil :-)

    Question - is having a hoarse or deep voice a common thing among ASD kids? Alex has always been quite raspy and has veins on the side of his neck that stand out when he is talking a lot or is upset. A former speechie said something about nodules - has anyone any experience with this here ?

  2. #2
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    Oct 2003
    Forestville NSW
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    Hi Barb!

    Matilda was first diagnosed with just SPD, not ASD as well. So I believe you can have SPD without being "on the spectrum".

    Voice... Matilda doesn't have a scratchy voice at all.... its pretty normal.

  3. #3
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    Dec 2006
    In the Angelic Realm
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    Hi barb,

    My D has a normal sounding voice for an 8yo boy.

  4. #4
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    Oct 2006
    Sydney NSW
    4,837

    Barbie- at the moment DS has SPD but not ASD, haven't gone for full testing yet but OT and the EI teacher from school don't think he's ASD.
    I have taught some ASD children with deeper/ "different" sounding voices but not all.
    DS is obsessed with noodles too!! I have to watch which ones as he reacts badly to 320 which is in a lot of them.

  5. #5
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    Dec 2005
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    Thanks for answering my questions. Ofcourse since I started talking about this he has been good; granted he is sick though which usually means good behaviour lol

    I brought it up with my Dh after I asked you guys about signs and he flipped his lid and accused me of looking to label him 'disabled' all because I cant handle him. Needless to say it erupted into WW3 because I did not appreciate him referring to ASD kids as disabled because they arent and because I didnt like his implication that it was my inadequacies as a parent causing the problems and not Ripleys behaviour itself. He thinks because he doesnt see alot of it that it isnt a problem; and that he is a boy and its what boys do. Granted I might be worrying over nothing but even if he isnt on the spectrum it is still unacceptable behaviour and we might need to source outside help to manage it. I think he thinks because he isnt openly 'different' in his behaviours or fits in with his personal idea of what a ASD kid 'is' then he mustnt be one iykwim? (I hope I havent offended anyone with what Ive said!)

    So now I am second guessing myself. Some of his behaviour seems so random; I think thats the big thing for me. I spend alot of time thinking "Why on earth did you do that!?" because sometimes I struggle to wonder how his mind thought up what he does. He is picky with his food but not like what you ladies have mentioned. He seems ok with change; I guess he has no choice considering Dhs job. But we dont have alot of change in our daily lives because we dont do anything really aside from going to daycare which he seems ok with. I can take him to a play centre and he'll go and play but I dont think he really interacts with other kids. Daycare have said they dont really see too many issues with him apart from his temper. When he isnt trying to beat them up he can interacts with his brothers ok.

    He is prob just quirky but I'll keep an eye on him for the time being. Thanks for letting me crash your thread and for answering my questions

  6. #6
    Lucy in the sky with diamonds.

    Jan 2005
    Funky Town, Vic
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    Barb, I came to the conclusion that DD was just sensory, but starting school has brought out all the Aspy traits x 100 of what he had before.

    Freya, if your DH doesn't have the right idea of Spectrum disorders than he can't bloody well go off about it. Give him the list I put up above so he can read for himself. From your posts he seems to tick off quite a few. DS was perfectly fine in childcare and did quite well in Kinder, probably why I am so taken aback at the depth of his behaviour now.

    Remember how VARIED this can be. Loud noises don't bother mitch, he can be picky with food but also eats a huge range of other stuff when we are out. He doesn't line things up (BIG indicator) or get upset when his things are out of order.

  7. #7
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    Oct 2006
    Sydney NSW
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    The diagnosed aspy in my class doesn't line things up either, nor his he obsessed with things like many ASD kids are. He cuddles me when he feels like it and can be quite loving which I didn't expect.
    Because its a spectrum there are so many millions of variations in behaviour, i think people have seen Rain Man and believe that is aspergers when its just how it maifested itself in ONE person IYKWIM?