So I guess my two cents after the last two pages of posts is - how many traumatic births where the women and babies are saved by intervention were actually precipitated by unwarranted intervention in the first place? Sadly, because so many women who endure birth trauma seem to only find solace in assurances from their doctors that they "would have both died" but for the intervention itself, I doubt we will ever truly know the answer to this question. Because if we look for the answer we risk going to places where many women dare not look (and by this I don't mean that we should be looking to blame women themselves!)
well said!



but does the answer lie in the fact that whilst intervention has sky rocketed in the past 20 years child and maternal death has stayed the same? if all this intervention was needed then wouldnt the rates have dropped????