FionaJill - definitely double check your pricing, there have been a couple of articles regarding the drop in value of 2nd hand large cars (Ford, Holden's etc), so there should be some good deals out there. Go with your gut, don't feel pressured. Also we recently picked up a VY series II s pack sedan with only 40,000k for not much more than what you have quoted, also new & ex demo VZ's are coming out much cheaper since the VE is coming out. Not normally interested in cars, but DH has just looked into all this and I questioned him a lot about what was the best purchase for us.