Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception - Jan 2008 #3

slyder · January 23rd, 2008, 04:10 PM

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jbub · January 23rd, 2008, 04:48 PM

Regarding the endometriosis:
Angel baby's facts were correct.
I have also always had painful periods and just thought that was normal. It wasn't until we TTC for a year then saw FS that it was discovered through lap surgery. My FS suspected I had endo because of painful periods, sometimes sharp pains during intercourse and painful bowel movement with my periods. The lap showed that I have severe endo. I actually had to have a second surgery to remove the endo because my gynae needed a bowel specialist's help.

It is now 4 months since my surgery and am in the 2ww after my first ivf cycle. Because of the severity of my endo it is important to get knocked up asap hence the ivf. Actually I have already had a 4cm endometrioma grow back on my right ovary so i am praying that i am pregnant now so it won't be an issue. I really want to avoid surgery again so soon.

If you do need a laparoscopy it isn't too bad. My first op I wasn't too sore after. I had a week off work but i was out shopping and lunching with friends within a few days (don't tell work). The second one I had 2 weeks off and needed it but i did have a LOT of endo removed.

My case is an extreme case. Usually when endo is discovered it is just removed and if it is mild or medium, people can just try and get pregnant naturally for 6 - 12 months before having to go down the ART path.

**tiggerlinda** · January 23rd, 2008, 05:00 PM

**Baby Bliss** · January 23rd, 2008, 05:21 PM

Got my meds in the fridge, taken day 1 of primolut, a week (ish) to go!

**briggsy's girl** · January 23rd, 2008, 05:25 PM

good luck BB - primulut was a fairly gentle tab for me - i didn't have too many dramas - even after i stopped and AF arrived, she was gentle to me!

**LeeBS** · January 23rd, 2008, 07:05 PM

Good luck BB

Well we saw our nurse today and I was given the proper outline for the cycle. Transfer is all booked for February 26th

Hello to AB, BG, Slyder et al.

**Bel** · January 23rd, 2008, 10:32 PM

Hi all,
I am new to BB and am yet to post anything cause I really don't know where to post or how to use all your abbreviations, but I have been reading a lot of your posts and have been finding some useful info and some strength from all your stories.
My story is this- I was one of those women I now am very jealous of. Fell pregnant on my honeymoon after being told I wasn't ovulating regularly so was over the moon. At 7 weeks I was admitted to hospital and given a D&C as I was told I was miscarrying. Was sent home in a lot of pain and ended up with an ectopic pregnancy and losing my tube. Very frightning experience. Was extremely depressed at the reality of not only losing my baby but also my chances of falling pregnant again with ease. Also after this debarcle I was diagnosed with PCOS. So I spent all of last year on Metformin and Clomophine with no luck. It was decided IVF was our only option left.
I had my first cycle in NOV and had 11 eggs retrieved. 7 fertilised and one embryo was implanted. Apparently my eggs and my DH's sperm were of high quality, but unfortunately I received a BFN.
I have had a lot of trouble with starting a frozen cycle. I was told I could start Provera to bring on a period to start my new cycle but still at day 44 I had not got a period and my DR was saying my levels weren't right to start the Provera. I thought the idea of IVF and the drugs was to help you to achieve a pregnancy where you body won't naturally allow it- so I was extremely anxious and disappointed in my treatment at this stage. But I took matters into my own hands and went to see an acupuncturist and on day 44 he bought on my period.
So here I am at day 8 and on my 7th day of HRT. I am having a scan on the 30th to see how my lining is going and hopefully will have a transfer in the week following.
I am so anxious about this next implant. I was so sure as everyone is at some stage that I was pregnant last time. I don't know how much strength I have to receive another BFN.
Also this cycle they are going to grow the embryo to day 5. I am reading many different views about this but am thinking it is a positive. Also, I am only going to have 1 embryo implanted but am thinking to thaw 2 and grow both to day 5 and re-freeze the other if they both survive. I just could not deal with a cancelled cycle seeing as though my periods are so irregular.
I am sorry for the massive rant and the non-use of abbreviations to ease reading but now my story is out my next posts will be shorter-I promise!!!
Any info or advice would be much appreciated.
Thanks and all the bst to everyone

**Bel** · January 23rd, 2008, 11:18 PM

just seeing if my signature worked

**Baby Angels** · January 23rd, 2008, 11:25 PM

One thing for absolute certain is that you will read in here many variations of Assisted Conception. Every one of us is different, some only by the smallest amounts and others completely different. We are all in here for different reasons, with one main common thread, obviously the assisted conception and TCC.

The great thing in here is the support for one another and dont worry about the abbreviations, you will have a laugh over some of them when you learn them.... i did post a list in the previous thread of this i think, just yesterday. In the meantime have some fun trying to figure some of them out, its actually quite amuzing when you see the list.

I am certainly no expert on the specifics of assisted conception, I have only completed one IVF cycle. but there are women in here that could answer more questions that you are aware are out there.

If you want, go back and look at some of the old posts, you will find the list of abbreviations in there as well as lots of answers to questions you didnt even know to ask.

Welcome

**Baby Angels** · January 23rd, 2008, 11:27 PM

Well you v e got smiley faces everywhere So i take it your feeling calm about everything your nurse went through and excited about having a transfer date..... Congrats

slyder · January 24th, 2008, 05:43 AM

G'day Bel and welcome to the thread (and the site).

Don't stress about the lingo, there's still things I'm learning 8 months in!

**hj1981** · January 24th, 2008, 09:35 AM

QUESTION - now that i will be starting PREGNYL injections soon - will that stop me from MC if something is wrong with bub when and if i get preg again???

**Tish** · January 24th, 2008, 03:36 PM

Evening all

TGI (nearly) F!!

Lionfish I hope everything went well with you PU today!

Rather hazy so sorry for peppering my post with acronyms! I'm new here too and still struggling with them all, it's amazing how quickly you pick it up though.

Everyone here has been so warm and helpful! I'll be sure and let my hubby know about the biopsy, he must be freaking out about it because he does bring it up all the time, which is not like him at all! We are doing ICSI as well, so sounds like very similar position to us. When you start will depend on your cycle as well. Like I said, I'm new, but as far as I can tell whether you do a short or long one you start meds when you get your period. I had a baseline ultrasound and some bloodtests, but no lap or anything before we started.

saltprincess thanks for the vibes! Blame the druggs, I do!!! hehe

Briggsy's girl I'm sorry to hear you're having a rough time at the moment. You sound like a very giving, supportive person - don't forget about yourself

hj1981 Sorry I don't know about the Pregnyl, apart from using it to trigger?

Over here, the booking for the pick up is def Saturday morning, so I'll be doing the pregnyl injection precisely at 6.30 tonight. Tomorrow will even be an INJECTION FREE DAY! woohooo! What shall I do to celebrate? LOL Thank god no more orangutans

, I was sure they were ringing to say they'd extended me until Monday!!

I've been feeling mondo bloated lately, and in the past few days weird PMS symptoms - anxiety, irritable, urge to kill husband for not doing dishes

Hopefully that will all subside after Saturday!!

I'm going to try and make tomorrow an IVF free day. All the medications, research and questions have become a bit all consuming so it might be nice to try and take a break from all of that since I don't have any meds to do - it might help me be less anxious about the pick up on Saturday too. Warm thoughts and TGIFS for everyone tomorrow, and again good luck to miss c for Saturday too!

And happy long weekend!

Tish
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**tiggerlinda** · January 24th, 2008, 03:57 PM

Bel - Welcome and GL sweet

HJ - I had taken pregnal when I had the early MC so I would say no it just increases the chances of bubs sticking I think.

Kell - GL sweet I have everything crossed for you

Miss C - GL for Sat

Tish - Best of luck for you

for all

**Lionfish** · January 24th, 2008, 04:49 PM

Thank you Tish, Salt and Tiggerlinda
All went very well i have 12 little eggs! YAY. So am now waiting to see if they fertilise as last time they were too immature and only 2 fertilised so heres hoping that this time round is MUCH better.
Will be thinking of you on Sat Tish and enjoy your IVF free day tomoro.

**tiggerlinda** · January 24th, 2008, 06:42 PM

12 eggs well done

**neane** · January 24th, 2008, 09:10 PM

hi I am new to BB I am glad to read stories of many women going through many similar experiences. Currently I am injecting puregon daily and my stomach looks like a pin cushion, I finally got some great news today from the nurses at my fs office that i finally finally have a lead follicle amongst the huge quantity of follicles i produce with my pcos. so i will find out next tuesday post scan if i am good to go.. sounds like i'm getting ready for a space mission. Any advice on staying sane would be good, Tish can totally relate to the huge urge to wring oh's neck for not doing dishes.

rather hazy · January 25th, 2008, 04:38 AM

Jbub - thank you for sharing your experience with endo. I think fortunatley for me I don't have to worry about it. I had my appts with nurse yesterday and asked whether I would need a lap. She said most likely not. I hope you don't need to go through more surgery, please keep us posted.

Bel - welcome. Everyone is super nice here - it's unbelievable. The assistance and support of this forum and the ladies who post is invaluable. Good luck with the transfer.

Tish - Hopefully that will put your DH's mind at rest. We were told yesterday DH will have to have another biopsy at the time of PU and he's not worried at all. Is your DH having sedation as well as local? The sedation really seemed to help my DH to relax before they insert the local.

As for me, like I said, we had our first appts yesterday and everything was explained to us. It was a long day and extremely overwhelming, so much information. I'm feeling a lil apprehensive and uneasy about the whole process. But like DH & the nurse said, once we start, it's just one step at a time and it will become so routine we won't even think about it.

I didn't realise how complex the process is. The nurse ran through the process and at several points during that 'debriefing' I thought to myself "Is this list of instruction ever going to stop".

Someone mentioned earlier, I'm not sure who, that they take total control of your cycle - and it's so true! It's like a finely tuned machine - everything runs like clockwork.

I bought my (wait lemme get the packets) Norimin & Synarel yesterday and I'm all set for when Aunt Flo arrives....which should be on Thursday.

Now that I'm a lot more informed than I was 24 hours ago, I might actually be able to understand what you ladies are talking about. The abbrev list will probably make a lot more sense to me now.

Thank you for your patience with me and for being so willing to answer my questions, as naive & uneducated as they sounded. I do have one last question which is quite embarrassing and if I could make it in invisible text I would.. but..... I've never really had anyone 'poke around' 'down there' (cept for a few smears) so I'm wondering, would it be appropriate or perhaps of some assistance to those who will be poking around 'down there' that I get a b # r # a # z # i # l # i # a # n?