Tubal Reversals #13

**Mumof8** · February 26th, 2008, 06:37 PM

well you pointed me in the right direction in the first place and while we are the topic just maybe you should take some of your own advice and jump in feet first just like me. Come on just do it. I wonder if i'll get any commission by tell everyone about them

. Honestly girls dreams do come true no matter what it is you have to do to get them.
Hows things been anyway Crazymum?????

**kiya** · February 26th, 2008, 06:46 PM

i so agree Em.......hubby and i have decided to wait until i get my tax return back this year, only because #1 i will get a great return, and #2 i want to make sure that my new house is on it's way, so when bub is finally here, it will be in my new house not my old piece of wood. Hey Em speaking of houses, did you know that in the last 12mths there have been 8 new estates pop up in our area (Laidley). It is so hard to keep up these days. Cheers kiya

**mummy25** · February 26th, 2008, 08:27 PM

Omg totally know the show with the 12 children, love it....
But their children always seem to behave, and get along....... and the parents dont seem to yell much either....
Mine argue with each other all the time.... and the word MUM is the most used name in our house "mum he did, she did, MUM MUM MUM.......
In those shows the children help the parents and the parents always seem calm and never stressed.....
ask my eldest to help and she says "how much you gonna pay me" What Tha.....
(If my children were home schooled I would be stressed I am telling You!!!!..)
(that show was with the christians who home schooled their children and were at last count up to 15 children all with the names starting with the letter "J")
but there was a new one last night with 12 children 11 boys and one girl, where the hubby played in a baseball team with his boys)....
They all seem to have HUGE houses and Money???
I have a 4 bedroom, 2 bathroom house with 2 family rooms and a dble garage fully converted and being turned into a further 2 bedrooms in the next 12 months (just needs the wall down middle to seperate them) and we will have a 6 bedroom home and trust me my house is not even half the size of theirs on those tv shows....
I am 29 years old and I had my first child at 15 years old (mum forgot the talk LOL) and i am not married even know my partner and I have been together for 15 years, so I get the look alot and having a different surname to my kids I also get the are you their mum or aunty.....
even now the school still call me by his last name not mine.....
we were put on this earth to reproduce as many as we can handle, some pike out with 2, they may have nnice hollidays overseas, and spoil their kids rotten but are they happy???
we on the other hand have never left the state, our hollidays are spent camping with our children and everything we do is for them, never have my children missed a school camp or a friends party (unless they were Ill).
we are not rich but we do the best we can, Like all parents.....
No one should tell anyone that they should stop having baby's or enough is enough, we are all responsable for our own actions and if we want to have heaps of children then we can and we will......
I'll go for the Ivf in sydney and try once and see what happins, if it is ment to be it will....
If not I'll wait and try again....

**mummy25** · February 26th, 2008, 08:55 PM

HI KIYA, yes we have been gastbagging LOL, been finding out heaps of helpfull Info.
I hate these clamps I swear I can feel them and when I ovulate OMG it hurts....
I have dry skin now and I never had this before the clams went on....
and my moods change alot.... (at the moment it is from not smoking, but I have to stop or no baby.....)
I have searched the net and honestly found westmead to be the cheapest, some others said up to $7,000 just for IVF, so worth the drive /trip to sydney....
I hope they try with 2 for me, (just to give me a better chance)...
I watch alot of shows on foxtel which are birth shows and You see alot of complications with multiple births on there. (twins would be nice But one will do just fine),...
I have had 2 natural and 3 c's.
have had only 3 miscarriages but one was a twin with my daughter (second eldest) and the other 2 in between preg's, not as many as you have had.... But
I believe in fate and if it is ment to be it will happin, maybe not right away but it will happin eventually......
By the way my name is Jen LoL, Nice to meet you, (Both of You).....

**Mumof8** · February 27th, 2008, 06:40 AM

Mummy25.... I was reading your post and it sounds so much like my life. I too was 15 when i had my daughter who is 13 but all my kids have my surname i made sure of that just for that reason of people judging.Im 29 and not married but was once. We dont have much money either but the kids never ever go without and are always doing a sport which cost heaps to put them in but its cheap entertainment on the weekends sitting there watching them. I too have a 4 bedroom house with two bathrooms two lounge rooms.We have two dinning rooms and one is almost fully closed in(3and a half walls) so i got a nice curtain and rode and made that into the 5th bedroom. I too have converted half the garage into my daughters room. I got a piece of rope and went to spotlight and got a piece of caleco(cant spell) the lenthe of the garage. I sewed a rode pocket top on it by hand and bobs your uncle a wall at the cost of about $40 dollors and it can be pulled down at any time.
So for the show ive seen them all the J family now has 17 KIDS(out of control).
We have a pretty good system in our house cause I did a roster and its awesome. My two 8 and 6 year olds do the dogs unpack the school bags tidy the bathroom after there baths and set the table and take the rubbish out. And the next day who ever didnt do the dogs does them. And my daughter does the stacking of the dishwasher and the things that need hand washing and put all the folding away. I only started this system 10 months ago but it works and i still have to tell them sometimes but they do it. And they hardly ever get money for doing it cause i forget to give it to them and they forget to ask. But mu daughter get her $49 dollar cap each month for her phone. When you start having more then the norm family there just isnt enough hours in the day. Sometimes everyone gets lazy and they start to stuff under there beds and just being lazy so i call a family meeting and i have a list of things that i found that day

**kiya** · February 27th, 2008, 07:00 AM

WOW Em, what a system. Wish my house ran like that. I am chief bottle washer around here doing pretty much everything and trying to fit work in between all of that. I'm also the taxi service for the kids to and fro from school and friends houses. I'm referee between my 2 eldest boys pretty much everyday. I'm farmer joe cleaning the horse paddock and looking after the horse and property in general. Then as well as looking after the human family i have to look after the dog & cat families. My life is never dull, but to be perfectly honest i like it this way. The kids do help, but i prefer to do it all myself that way i know it will be done. Well i better get going. Got to finish my cuppa, get ready to do the school run as well as get ready for a job interview this morning, then come home and finish cleaning the house because our accountant & financier are coming this afternoon to tell us about our house options. Cheers kiya

**Mumof8** · February 27th, 2008, 07:23 AM

Oh i still do all those things too school run take the boys to training twice a week wash windows mop twice a week bathrooms twice a week cook every night wash twice a day folding ironing it just never end. And when it comes to things being clean and things being where they belong im my own worse enermy cause i just never sit down cause there is ALWAYS something out of place. I wish i could be lazy and learn to relax but no not me. I put some pics im my gallary of my roster and the 2 makeshift rooms. Take a look might give you some ideas

**kiya** · February 27th, 2008, 07:32 AM

wow Em you are so orginased. Just love what you did with the Ebonys room. BTW i love those baby bottles. What brand are they and where did you get them from ? They are gorgeous. The only babe i was able to bf was Maddison and that was only till i had my TL done. They said i had to stop because i wouldn't be able to feed for 2 weeks after the op because of the heparin. I loved bfing. Oh well, maybe next time i will have my shining moment to bf again. Cheers kiya

**Mumof8** · February 27th, 2008, 07:41 AM

I seen the bottles on ebay but i didnt bl00dy win them and i seen it was a USA seller. So my sister lives there so i sent her on a hunt to find them(hell or high water i was getting them). She found them at Walmart $20 for a pack of 2 X125mls and 2 x250mls and a bottle brush. I just had to have them. I'll get you some when you get PREGNANT as a gift so hurry UP!!!!

**kiya** · February 27th, 2008, 09:37 AM

i recently found some preemie sized bottles on ebay in US and bid & won them. I thought they would be perfect for the first few weeks because they are smaller and the baby only needs small amounts. They are 60ml/2oz bottles. You can't find them here so when i saw them i had to have them. They are gorgeous and wish they sold them over here because it is costing me heaps to ship them back here, but when you want something, you just got have it and don't care about the shipping. I did that for the extra bits & pieces for the bertini bidwell i won on ebay. Now i have the complete set with seperate bassinet and matching nappy bag. $1000 pram and accessories for $250. Can't beat that, and i love the colour of black/charcoal with charcoal stars & moons. Now all i need to get is the cot and a new car seat because the one i had for Maddison even though we got it new, i don't think is safe enough now, besides it is good to buy a new one. Cheers kiya

**onemore** · February 27th, 2008, 10:52 AM

Hi everyone,
sorry I havnt been around much lately, great to hear your all doing well.
Welcome mummy25 and best wishes on you TTC journey.
I`ve been a bit blah after my m/c and cycles are all over the place, I`m wondering if I should go on the pill for a couple of cycles to get them back on track.. af came 6 weeks after m/c then I had a 40 day cycle (so you can imagine I was a little OMG could I be pg... wishful thinking) and the witch stayed for 8 days.... before m/c she was only around for about 3.

hey Em, you sound so together!!! I have a cousin that has 5 kids all under 8 + a teen and she has everything going like clock work... says she has to or she would go mad !!!

Kiya - sounds like your all set. hope your first try is the one cant wait to follow your story.. Just to update you on the filly I told you about a few weeks ago. I`ve decided to keep her and she is lunging now and almost stops soley by voice comands. Long way to go though....

Storm - great to hear things are starting to come together for you slowly and hope you catch that egg soon...

must go, will catch up again soon

**kiya** · February 27th, 2008, 11:26 AM

hey onemore. great to hear from you again. glad to hear about your filly. it is good when with a little hard work they come together nicely. even better when on voice command. my gelding goes on voice command, and sometimes he does his transitions from trot to canter himself as he knows when i ask for that transition after a few circles. sorry to hear that your cycles are all over the place. i can totally relate to that happening especially after my m/c. yeah i can't wait to get started, but i also know i want to have my new house for when it does arrive home, so just have to juggle everything for a little bit, but i know it will all work out. em does sound like she is so with it and runs a nice tight ship. better get back to my cleaning. a few more hours and i will know for sure what is happening and whether i get my new house soon or have to wait just a few more months. cheers kiya

**mummy25** · February 27th, 2008, 02:21 PM

Hi again wow I go out for the day and I see you have all been very busy on here LOL....
I am not as organised as you are mumof5 I have chores for the kids but I do most of it myself Grrrr....
Though they do have to take out the rubbish, fill the pool when the water gets a bit low, pick up the doggy DoDo (they fight who gets this one)....
and feed the dogs..... (we have 2 labradors....)
some times I get them to pull the clothes off the line for me but they tend to loose my pegs so I dont ask them often.....
my house is always tidy but not as it should be, I'm not super clean just neat.....
my kids hide their toys under their beds and when asked to clean their room my boys have a screaming match about who is not helping or doing it right lol....

when we brought our house in december 07 they already had the garage properly converted into a room, (they used this as a beaty salon) it has internal access and it's own access from outside, so we are going to put a wall down the middle and make 2 new bedrooms. I shall take a pic and post it on here later when kids asleep to show you what it looks like....
your idea aounds great and $40 wow thats even better but my hubby wants it done with the wall....
we certainly do sound alike.....
my daughter is 13 she will be 14 on August 27th..... (i had her at fairfield hospital in sydney)...

**mrsjac** · February 27th, 2008, 02:33 PM

hi everyone espescially to mummy25 welcome! i have a question i was supposed to have af on the 25th of feb no show she came twice in jan. just after i ovulated i had a little show of cm. and thought nothing of it. is this a sign of pregnancy? thanks

**Mumof8** · February 27th, 2008, 02:46 PM

Hi Onemore so glad your back. Im so so sorry your still having a rough time and its just never nice is it. I think i delt with mine as good as i did because i still had one bub. Yes i have to be on top of things and keep a tight routine or the hole house just goes to S H I T! And they kids start going CRAZY!!!
I was talking to my specialist at the hospital the other day and she was asking me all about what ive been thru. And she said that 2 years is normaly normal to fall pregnant after a T/R.

MRSjac.... good to hear from you. Hope its a good sign

**mummy25** · February 27th, 2008, 04:40 PM

Hello mrsjac I'm not sure maybe you should get a test.
This will sound stupid right but today I swore I had a baby kicking in me, and the same thing happined last week. Dam I'm loosing it... LOL....
I have still been getting my period but they Jump around alot (like Jan it came 13th and feb the 7th)....
I have this stabbing pain too in my side (one side but only lasts a few minutes) think maybe I could have ovulated....
Dont want to go to the doc cause he would think I am nuts.....
maybe i could ask for an untrasound to see the position of the clamps, make sure they have not moved????

can we fall preg with clamps on? has it happined to anyone here?
my clamps have been on for 3 and a half years now, they done them when I was in having my daughter by c/s....

**mummy25** · February 27th, 2008, 05:00 PM

so how do I add photo's?
I have had a look but cant seem to find how to add them?.
any advice LOL (probebly easy and i am probebly going blind in my old age.