No, the OB which said spinning babies is a waist of time was the one who was pushing for a vbac birth. He said he would wait 2 hours into labour before making the choise if the baby will turn. But when is the 2 hours worked from????? I would hate for that to be fully dialated. It took me 24 hours to get that far last birth. I expect to have pain, but as said before pos' births are more painful and longer. I think I will give spinning babies a go no matter what he says. It cant hurt.