TM...sounds very similar to DS1 who is 15. He was adamant he wasn't going back to school this year and by law he could get an exemption if he had work more than 25 hrs a week or an apprenticeship (how stupid is our govt)... anyway, I knew he was too lazy to look so wasn't too concerned. He's back at school, but guess what....he's already on a weeks suspension! He thinks he's a law unto his own. We got a letter from translink (which is the trains etc here) and he's going to be in big trouble if he gets caught again without a ticket, and we told him we are NOT paying the fine if he gets it and he can do community service but he doesn't care. He is moody, rude and speaks to me like I'm crap. Then he can be so nice. He's lost 2 jobs since Sept cos he doesn't care, he wants to be out hanging out with his mates. As for counselling, he won't be in that at all, thinks he has no issues and if I ask what's bugging him I get "it's complicated". I have to nag him constantly to even pick up his dirty clothes or have a shower....I'M OVER IT TOO!! to you hun...it's hard trying to remain calm I know. I try my best but am human too and sometimes just lose it *sighs*. I hope it picks up for you.