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Morning all,
Shortcake - I used clomid and would totally recommend it, but if you know you are ovulating every month and quite regulary then I don't think it would make much difference as its not the clomid that makes you pregnant, it just makes you ovulate (well that's what it is supposed to do anyway). Not sure of success rates but worked for me first time! It is normally the first line in fertility treatment before more invasive, expensive procedures. Talk to your Doc and they may have some more answers for you. Big hugs, I know the waiting is terrible!
Cherished - It is easy to disable the signature so don't worry Ill still hang around to encourage you all! I would have disabled it sooner had I known people were getting upset but I can totally understand how other people feel about it. For me, it gave me hope but I know for others it is upsetting. Sorry to anyone I have offended xoxoxox
Welcome to the newbies - I was in your place not too long ago and this forum has been a constant source of encouragement. I wish you weren't here, but we will support you all the way!
AFM - Ob did a scan last night and said he cann't see ANY fluid on the baby's neck! Yay, so happy at the moment, this little girly is such a fighter, still have to have more tests and scans but its looking a lot more positive - In fact fantastic!
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Hey Gurlies...
O Happy Monday...NOT!!!
Hope everyone had a pleasant weekend...
Seems with every log in these days there are new rules and regulations...I apologize if I've offended anyone with a ticker or post...it's just that with all the support you've given me I guess I took for granted everyone would be thrilled to see the ticker moving right along...anyway...
Let's hope this is the month everyone moves to PAML!
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Well my few days of happiness and joy have crashed around me and I got back a BFN this morning still only 10dpo. I used a pregnosis clear test and I read on the weekend ( in the instructions) that the test could give false positives from clomid and I rang the company yesterday ( they were very very helpful suprisingly!and they said if I am on clomid the best chance of finding out if I am UTD is either AF late and then POAS and take that result as real or a blood test.
Rang FS and he said i just have to hang in their till af DUE THEN WE DO THE BLOOD TEST. hE DOESN'T LIKE TESTIING BEFORE af AS SOMETIMES THINGS DON'T (sorry it is in Upercase I have to go to work and can't retype it not yelling promise) go well with the cells and the baby dosen't form and you still get a AF on the day due or one or two days later... - apparently very common.... So no BT and have to wait but to be honest apart from a minor amount of cramping ( ovary area cramping so a little worried ) and me turning into Mrs Mega Biarch !! (not normal for me...I have no other signs so I think the clomid, may have made me O but it has also give me a false result.
So sorry i don't have some happy news for everyone.... I sit here and wait ........Next test Sunday ( sorry Jen but then that would take me past when AF is due and I can have a more reliable answer, I am also too scraed to put my positive on the test in case it jinxs me )... Em
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MrzbabySo sorry! I had no idea you could get a false positive (regardless of taking any meds)... I think it's great that you know now and you can try to relax more over the ttw untill either you do or don't get af 'then' get excited iykwim. It's also great info for anyone else on clomid to not test early (even though that is nearly impossible when ttc!) Personally I like to wait untill at least af is due anyway. Well my fingers are still crossed for you honey
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Ok, girls... going to try to cheerfully continue on with the persies that I didn't finish before, but I'm just not feeling that cheerful, so bear with me....
I would like to mention first though, and I can only speak for myself, to all those proud BFP'ers, that none of you have EVER offended me in any way, shape or form! So please, no apologies from any of you!You have all truly inspired me, and have given me the ONLY hope I have in my life, and I truly just have to say that I think it's a shame.
(Please no disrespect to the mods is intended, it's just really upsetting to me)
sparkles--Glad to hear the bleeding has slowed. I also had a natural m/c, bled for 7 days, then had a 25 day cycle on that first cycle after. HTH!
Shortcake--Wow, you had your net up and running quick--a truly dedicated bb'er! lol... Hope you're enjoying your new house despite it's first RUDE unwanted visitor! D@mn RB!
smi--I hate Monday, and change, and RB, and change, and RB--but mostly change!It's just not the same, is it? I'm glad you enjoyed the sunshine I sent your way! Can I send you some wind next?
susie--I'm so very sorry for your loss, but if you're in search for like-minded people that can only think of getting pg, then you're in the right place!
Lu Lu--
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Sorry, got a phone call and didn't want to lose that post... part 2....
Greenslw--Sorry you're feeling cr@ppy! I'm saying lots of prayers that the end result will justify the pain it took to get you there! Big *hugs*
Mannie--Thanks for the info! But actually, thanks to Mel's blocked tubes (sorry, Mel, not that I appreciate that yours were blocked, but YKWIM) I did a little research and read about the dye... I'm planning on asking my dr. about both, especially since Mel's tubes were blocked for over a year, and she never had any indication that there was a problem! I hope your TWW is quick and ends with a BFP!
meh--Hang onto that inspirational grateful feeling for being happy with what you have, it's a blessing! Belated happy birthday to your DS!
teme--
cherished--Welcome back from camping! We missed you! Best of luck with your upcoming shag-a-thon and get ready to catch this
Mel & Hannah--Still super excited for you both!
erybery--What a fabulous miracle you've got growing inside you!I'm so, so, so happy for you! I would just like to reiterate what I said before, you've done nothing offensive, and I'm sorry that you've had to take down your ticker while your little trooper is so deserving of it! Big *hugs* and bellyrubs for that amazing little girl of yours!
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mrzbaby--I'm so sorry, honey! At 10 DPO it's not over yet, tho... still sending positiveyour way!
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Hello lovely ladies!
First and foremost I must say that I quite miss seeing all the tickers. For me that was hope! It was wonderful seeing ladies like me had gotten through it and are now pregnant or have a little one. Please ladies do not apologize like Jen said you have done nothing wrong.
mrzbaby- I'm so sorry for the bad news. But at least you know now and its too early to know but I'm praying you get your BFP this month.
erybery- I'm so happy for you! I'm glad your little girl is doing wonderful such great news!
Jen- I know what you mean about not seeing the tickers. Its so sad and down in hereAnd nope I had to get the internet fast. I could not go without BB!
Cherished, MO3B, smi, Mollycat, Charm, Mel, Chappas, and everyone else thinking of you!
AFM- Waiting for rotten RB to go away. I'm going to lay down for awhile major cramps and a headache thanks so much RB. Hope everyone else is well!
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Eryberry - That is Brillaint news!!! She is a little fighter! COngratulations!
Mrzbaby - Its not over yet! DPO 10 is pretty early so you still have a chance! GOod luck!
Shortcake - Maybe RB is being extra cruel so you dont forget her when you dont have her for the next 9 months!
Jen- Thanks for the advice!
AFM - I had another very light + OPK this morning is that normal?
Being back at work is a little sad but Im looking forward to tomorrow seeing my kiddies and my new kiddies too!!
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RB has arrived, and I'm drinking a rum and coke! Salute!
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Well I am new here to this thread and I lurked for a while and found the good news tickers were an inspiration. I guess after a loss I feel that once I am TTC I am looking for hope. I hope I haven't done the wrong thing by expressing my opinion. I can see how some people might be affected by other peoples good news but whether on here or in everyday life the reality for me is I am always going to be having to face others pregnancy announcements and I will feel ispired by all that have experienced loss and then success.
Speaking of success stories anyone know of some successes after an ectopic with or wothout losing a tube? I need some inspiration!
There have been very very few times on Belly Belly that I have felt such a feeling of disgrace as I have in the past 12 hours.
My inbox was full to over flowing with thanks from members with regard to the tickers. It was full of thanks for taking steps to enforce this long standing position on turning off tickers in the M & L forums & in the LTTC forums.
There was complaint from only 1 member in a PM and one Member in the other forums.
I find it appalling that such a simple request is treated with such annoyance and lack of kindness and understanding by some of the posters in this forum. You are all afforded the respect that is given to all women who have suffered loss - you all ask for understanding, you all ask for your babies to be remembered. You have a beautiful forum for this to happen along with support, love and friendship.
You are kindly asked to turn off pregnancy tickers as MANY (yes I am talking loudly) women are finding it very uncomfortable when they have suffered a loss.
Instead of walking for a few minutes in their shoes you complain in this thread and one member in PM's to me. I find this disgraceful that you cannot think outside your own circle.
If you don't feel comfortable with this - then you will need to get over it or move on. Because our role is to ensure safety and kindness to the majority - not to pander to those who don't feel it's comfy any more because they cannot show a pregnancy ticker.
Not everyone feels like you (the minority who are complaining) do. Many women find it reignites their sadness. You can look at pregnancy tickers until the cows come home in other forums on this site to give you encouragement. But in here it's not okay as it causes some women pain.
As for taking offence at not posting with nothing more than emoticons - that is the way it is also. Our job is long and time consuming. We get little kudos and have the very difficult job of enforcing the guidelines - most members don't have an issue with toeing the line - just as we do in all other areas of our life. All communities have morays and rules. As a member of this forum you are obliged to follow the rules.
Again I have never felt such disgrace at people being unable to feel anothers pain - mostly because losing babies usually teaches compassion and grace. I hope that you can move along, accept this is the way it is and continue to support one another.
Any more comments in this thread complaining about this will be removed and infracted.
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Yeeeeeearha Cowgirl! yep there was a lot of red wine consumption on our camping trip! The ONLY good thing about the other 2 week wait
I was a little drunk skunk every night we were away!!!
teme I'm not sure on that but I am sure there are many sucess sotories honey
EDIT a few mins later after seeing flower childs post.... Girls please give her a break (and all mods for that matter) as one of the girls said we can catch up with our pg friends by either pm or in the PAML thread... I know I even drop in on my Oct belly buddy thread to see how they are going (hello erybery :P) Anyway I can see what Flowerchild is saying about some woman being really hurt by their loss (especially recent loss) and seeing a pg ticker (after loosing theirs) is just another reminder. Anyway love and light to you all, our friends are still here and we can still talk to them and that is the most important thing
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Hi all you lovely ladies
Shortcake - Stupid RB!! I'm sorry this wasn't your month. And I just wanted to post to you about Clomid - I have done quite a few cycles of Clomid and personally if you are ovulating on your own with good hormone levels I would not take it. It doesn't always come without side effects, for me it was terrible depression, and also it actually does make you slightly less fertile. It thickens CM making it more difficult for sperm to penetrate and also can adversely affect your lining - I had lining checked when on it and it was heaps thinner than when I was on FSH injections for my IVF cycle. I also got a largish cyst on one ovary whilst taking it. Don't get me wrong, it can be a great drug for some people especially if you are not ovulating, but based on my experiences I would not take it without a pretty good reason. Just wanted to give you a perspective from someone who had a series of disasters with it - it is great when it works, but unfortunately it doesn't work for everyone. HTH!
Jen - Oh no not RB again
mrzbaby - I'm so sorry! But don't give up hope, you may still get a BFP at the end of this
erybery - Glad to hear the scan went well, that is fab news!
Hi and
And hi and welcome to all the new ladies, I'm so very sorry for your losses
I also just wanted to say that I also hope I haven't hurt anyone by displaying my ticker
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Jen - sorry to hear RB has arrived. I was going to have a makers or JD and coke last night since he had arrived but I had a bit of a headache so decided against it) -tonight though, there will be no stopping me.
Ok... i'll be back later for more persies.. just on the phone with sivf sorting out my testing scedual eek!
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I also just want to reiterate what Flowerchild has just said. It is not a huge ask to turn your tickers off in this area and quite frankly the arrogance and disrespect is astounding.
Last edited by Trillian; April 28th, 2009 at 12:31 PM.
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Apparently, Flowerchild's post has been utilised to attack her, when in effect she is speaking as a representative of many of the members who use this thread, and this forum. That is something we do not tolerate here on BB, that members feel it's okay to attack a moderator for doing her job in protecting the members of this forum.
As individual members, you are not privy to complaints, PMs or discussions that we, as moderators, receive on a regular basis. You are not the person who has to appease a woman with a recent loss who finds pregnancy tickers confronting and painful. You obviously do not have to deal with this pain and therefore you will not have an idea of where Flowerchild is coming from.
This forum is 90% about pregnancy and babies, and there is 90% of the forum for you to view pg tickers. That there are members who find it difficult to see such a ticker in a M/C forum is understandable.
That there are people arguing with the rule to turn pg tickers off in this forum makes me wonder if in fact you understand that being supportive ALSO means not doing something that is likely to hurt someone and cause them pain. Or is support only offered on YOUR terms? Does the fact that there are those who are hurt by it mean nothing to you?
I welcome you to PM me to discuss this further if you have any further input on this topic. We have had this rule in the LTTTC forums for many years without issue, and if I need to explain it again in plainer terms to you as to why we have the rule here now, I'm more than happy to do it in private. ANY further public discussion on this topic will be removed and the poster infracted without further notice for debating a moderator decision.
Last edited by sushee; April 28th, 2009 at 01:01 PM.
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I agree with Mods.
I know that when im having a bad day and see someones ticker it sends me into a depressed state that's hard to get out of. I dont think it is too much to ask that those that are having successful pregnancies not to display their pg tickers in a forum where women are grieving.
If you want some hope, (and I do this myself)..go into the PAML thread
Thanks Mods!
Other than that, hello to everyone and all the newbies in here! I have been lurking. We are still having dramas with our real estate re closing the sale of our apartment and the stress is causing me headaches..literal headaches. Instead of closing today we're closing in another month.. basically the tenant went and signed another lease after being told not to and after she was made aware that we were selling the place so the buyers therefore couldnt have it vacant posession...We didnt think anything of the lease when we got it in the mail because that was when we lost our baby. *sigh* I hate real estate..
I am due to get my blood taken to test my progestorone and do full blood work to rule anything out so that's pretty cool. I have started ther POAS with OPK now because I ovulated early last month & dont want to miss it! I think I am meant to have the progestorone tested at 7dpo is that right? I thought it should be earlier, can someone please help me on that one?
Hope everyone is having a better week than us!
Coco the progesterone test is sometimes called the day 21 test... This is because it should be done for the most acccurate result at 7 dpo. So about 8 days after you get your first positive opk.
Good luck.
Thankyou for the masses of positive feedback and understanding I have received. As Sushee pointed out - my job is to enforce the guidelines of the forum. I think it is also important to remember that this forum is visited by folk that don't post - women and some men who want to glean support from others in a similar position. So just because a very few of you think it's not upsetting a large number do. We have privvy to that information. Our aim is to be a place of support and understanding - where the majority are comfortable.
Now, lets put this to bed and move on with supporting those that need support...
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