Pash, are you okay? I'm so sorry you're going through such an anxious time. If it helps, i bled during my last pregnancy - not at all related to the m/c, it was several weeks earlier - and my obs told me that 25% of pg women experience bleeding and the majority of them go on to have healthy bubbas. One of his patients started bleeding at 7 weeks and didn't stop until week 35, then delivered a healthy baby. There are many reasons for bleeding and not all of them relate to the health of the pregnancy.
Brown blood is old blood, so that's good news, and cramps can be an early pregnancy symptom, i have them as i type, promise. I'm sure they will pick up a HB tomorrow but if they can't, ask for an internal scan.
I'm thinking of you, and praying this has a happy ending.
Satya - v jealous of your ice-cream, i might have to get some, it's just what i feel like tonight. i think there's a cough medicine (robitussin maybe) that helps with fertile CM too.
Kiwigirl - sorry AF arrived, but like you said maybe your body is getting ready to welcome a little bundle on your long weekend!
Lisa - i think maybe that's implantation bleeding, doesn't really sound like a normal AF to me. Good luck with the blood tests on Friday, let us know how you go.
Lee - i don't think my GP normally takes blood, she only did this time because i insisted. i understand your anxiety and wish there was a pill we could all take to get rid of it! taking care of yourself and thinking positively sounds like the best plan though. i've been doing my best to think positive and imagining myself seeing a live baby at the 12 week scan, getting big, feeling kicks and holding my new baby. It helps a bit... at least it's something positive to focus on.
TimNik - good luck! i can relate to thinking about babymaking (or babies) all day every day!
Salt, the chart looks fab!! not too long now...
I saw my obs today and it went well. He couldn't pick up a HB at first so had to use dildocam but we saw the tiny heart, flickering away! i got very emotional, needless to say. He said I was about right with my dates (6 weeks today) and was very reassuring. He told me to come back in 2 weeks so i 'wouldn't have to worry' and told me the stats were in my favour. i know there are no guarantees but i feel pretty comfortable with the whole thing. anxious, but happy.
Hi everyone, Thanks so much for the reassurance. It really did help calm me down, or at least helped me feel like I might still have hope. The cramps have stopped and I've had no more bleeding, but I'm afraid to get my hopes too high.
Claireabel - I am so glad your scan went well. And you saw a heartbeat! How exciting! It really does give me hope (I don't know whether that's good or bad at the moment).
I feel so nervous, like I've got a big job interview coming up. DH is stressed out too, with trying to cope with work, what could go wrong at the scan, putting together photos for his pop's funeral and maybe flying back for it.
Sorry for another selfish drama-queen post. I'll BBL for personals.
Hi everyone, I'm sorry that I haven't posted in a while. We decided to take a much needed mini vacation and went camping for a few days.
Lots of hugs for the new girls, so sorry that you are having to experience such a sorrowful event.
Congrats to all the new preggers! I'm sorry I am new and I'm still having a hard time remembering all your names.
The one name I can remember is Pash. Congrats, and I totally understand how worried you are right now. I wish I could say it will get easier, but it won't. You will worry every step of this pg. But take it from someone who has been there MANY times, try really hard to enjoy every moment you can, because if you don't, and end up having a successful pregnancy, you will feel like you cheated yourself. Also just so you know, your beta numbers (hcg)can determine whether or not you will be able to see a heartbeat. Anything after 4000 you should see a heartbeat. I know that I've seen a heartbeat as early as 5 weeks 3 days, and as late as 7 weeks exactly. So don't give up yet. And yes, BROWN blood is old blood!
Now for my news. I am going in for a beta (hcg) this morning, as I tested this morning and it's positive. I just can't even believe it. It's only been 3 weeks and 3 days since my m/c . Part of me doesn't believe it, it must be leftover from my m/c, BUT i tested every day until I got negative tests three days in a row and then stopped testing. It's been over a week since I tested with a negative and today I tested on a whim and it's a light, but definitely easily visible line. So I'm off to take a shower, adn then go get my blood drawn. I just can't believe with all of our infertility issues that I could possibly be pregnant again so soon!
I'll keep all of you posted.School is out, so my computer time is a bit more limited than usual!
Good luck to everyone else!
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Salt - I hope your temp stays up and doesn't go down this cycle.
Kiwigirl - Sorry your AF arrived. I think your long weekend could just be the thing that could get you your BFP.
Claire - I tried the cough syrup bu that didn't work for me. I also read that some believe that it can cause birth defects. It must have been a huge relief to see the heartbeat. You are so lucky to have been able to see it so early.
Pash - try not to stress about things as that will do you nothing but harm. It's time for some positive thinking.
Las - Things are sounding very positive. I hope a BFP is on its way to you this cycle.
Lee - I thought basic blood tests were standard after a BFP. I'm presuming the doctor has already done a blood HCG test. If not I'd be going back and asking for one.
Timnik - I need to eat more dairy anyway as once you hit your 40's you have to up it as you are heading towards osteoporosis territory and I don't eat enough of it. I've read heaps of articles that it's only full cream dairy that will aid in fertility so full cream it is. Good luck Oing.
Sandielreese - I hope it's a BFP when you get the blood test results.
CD11 for me now. I've started to notice some EWCM so it looks like either my icecream or evening primrose oil is doing it's job nicely. If I follow my last couple of cycles I will O either on Friday or Saturday. I'm not going to stress too much about it all this cycle, nor til I get my lap done as if it is a fibroid I could well just m/c again. Also if I conceive after another 3 months from now (I think) I would be able to use my long service leave as part of my maternity leave. That could well be worth waiting for... that would allow me to have 4.5 months off fully paid by the time you add paid maternity leave and then my annual leave would stretch it out to around 6 months I think. Look at me.... planning so far ahead..... how's that for positive thinking!
satya - I am so glad to see your positive thinking - that's the way! It is all sounding good, maybe that yummy ice cream has done the trick!
pash - I'm glad to hear the bleeding has stopped. As others have said, it is really common, and all is probably fine. I know how you are feeling right now. I am sooo scared all the time, and I feel like there is so much on my mind there isn't room for anything else. I can't manage anything right now, and there is no much I need to do. I can't even think about my holiday which is only 3 weeks away now, as I am convinced something will happen and we won't even get to go. This sucks!! But we will get through it.
claire - yay on seeing the heartbeat! That's great - it must be so reassuring. Now your odds are really in your favour, after you have seen that little heart beating away. Yay!
sandie - great news! Godd luck on your BT today!
Salt - yay on your chart! I so hope this is the month for you. My first OB appointment is 9 July, only 3 days before our holiday, so I hope I don't get bad news. I will be soooo scared; I have never even been to an OB appointment before, as I didn't have private cover before. I will be so afraid of him telling me it has died again. My anxiety levels are sky high right now. I will definitely be hanging around here for a while yet, I just don't feel comfortable leaving yet. It still doesn't feel real, and it is sooo early anything could happen.
Hi to everyone I have missed. I am still feeling quite nauseous most of the time, and my bbs kill, and I am so tired. I went to bed at 8pm last night! Had the best sleep and I really needed it. How many of you actually threw up with m/s when pg? I haven't been sick, I just feel sick, which was the same with my other pgs and I am wondering if that is ok? As horrible as throwing up is, I kind of wish I would for reassurance! I tend to have a v strong stomach and always have so I don't throw up easily, but it would maybe reassure me that all is ok. I can't even think straight, and am getting nothing done right now. It's like I just can't think of anything except trying to guess when I will find out that this one has died. I am not even excited about my holiday!
Bun - I had ms for 8 weeks with Megan and never threw up once. Mind you I had my head over the toilet bowl a few times! LOL I just had a constant sick feeling (a bit like a hangover) that gradually got worse throughout the day - bah to "morning" sickness!! I wouldn't worry at all about not throwing up as long as you are still feeling sick KWIM?
Well its going to be a selfish post from me today - I got my CD21 blood results back today. The tests for recurrent miscarriage are all OK as are the autoimmune tests. The only problem is I have a low progesterone and my ob thinks that I should give Clomid a go. He thinks that I may not be ovulating (although my charts seem to indicate that I am??) or that i am not ovulating "well". I can't start this cycle because its too late (he says I need to take it from CD1 to CD5 and I'm CD4 today) so will have to wait till next month - bring on another short cycle please, please!!
I'm really not sure whether to feel happy that there is something wrong that can be treated, or upset that I probably won't conceive and/or not have another m/c without assistance At this stage I am thinking that we shouldn't TTC this month - mainly because I am worried that if we are successful that I'll have another early m/c, and I don't think I can handle that at this stage of proceedings. Also DH has some work stuff that he needs to go overseas for and if he gets it out of the road this month, then we can start trying again next month when I have started with the Clomid.
And obviousIy have got a few questions and worries about taking Clomid as well. I guess once I sort out all my feelings I will post some q's in the Assisted Conception forum.
AAARRRGGGHH, why can't this just be easy!!!
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Satya - Your weekend sounds amazing! Whales & dolphins! Wow! Its great that you have EWCM, so something is working for you. Also great that your new doc has a plan for you. I think, while being a bit scary, it would also be comforting? Let us know how you go with the lap. Do you have to have general for it? And 6 months paid maternity leave? Sounds fantastic. Who wouldn't be day dreaming about that? Lisa - That does sound scary, but its good that your spotting stopped. It can't have been AF. Good luck for the BT. Lee - My GP in Sydney did BTs for loads of stuff for my first PG. I thought it was important to check for Rubella & other stuff as well. But then both times, the GPs here didn't do anything. Not even a HPT. Personally, I'd prefer if they tested for everything & then you can feel good about having a good iron count, etc. Maybe you could see another GP on the sly and get some BTs done, if that would make you feel better. BTW, I think it is soooo romantic that you got that honeymoon bub! I think it will all work out beautifully for you. TimNik - You're at the best part of they cycle! Enjoy, and we'll understand if your posts are short & infrequent right now Salt - You're almost half way through your wait! Got my fingers crossed for you. Claireabel - Its fantasic news that you saw your bub's heartbeat. You must be very relieved? Sandie - Congratulations! That is fantastic! I don't think it could be leftover HCG, if you've already had negative HPTs. I think its a real BFP! I hope your BT results confirm it. Bun - I think only 50% of ppl get m/s at all. I've never had it, and neither had my mum or auntie. Besides, you actually have the best of both worlds: reassurance that you have m/s, without actually throwing up all those good nutrients the baby needs. I understand about your anxiety though and I think I am pretty close to it. I am too afraid to leave this forum too. Have to just beg the other ladies to be patient with us. MegsMum - Its horrible finding out that your body isn't doing something very well. But you're better off knowing about it now, than spend months ttc then find out afterwards. Maybe if you look at it that way, waiting a cycle won't seem that long (*arrrgh* who am I trying to kid, waiting a cycle is torture). Its good news that your recurrent miscarriage & other tests were ok. Cherie - Good time in the cycle for you too! Good luck with the BD! Diane - I'm sorry you got a BFN. How frustrating! But until AF arrives, you may still have a chance (late ovulation maybe?) Rachael - How are you going? What stage are you at now?
Ladies, I'm sorry for still posting here, but I feel like I still need your support. I hope it doesn't annoy you too much when I whinge about my probs.
OK, I don't know what to think after my scan. There were 2 embryos (great news, except that this is riskier and chances of both surviving are lower), but no heartbeats and they were also a 5 week size instead of 6w4d. I have to wait for another scan in 2 weeks.
So I could have gotten my O date wrong by a week. So bubba & bubbe are only 5wks old, and that's why there is no heartbeat.
Or, I am still cramping & spotted once more. So I will m/c before the next scan or they will find no heartbeats at the next scan. The nurse did keep telling me to go straight to Accident & Emergency if I start bleeding, so I think she doesn't hold much hope.
Also got told that my work is finishing up at the end of July, at which point I'll have to look for more work or be unemployed
I'm in a very weird excited-scared-happy-worried-morbid limbo at the moment. I have no idea what's going on.
pash - wow! 2 embies!!! How exciting is that? It must be sooo stressful having to wait for another 2 weeks for another scan. Are you still having any spotting or cramping? Are they going to do any HCG draws, or just wait for the scan? This is such a stressful time. I am sure the ladies don't mind you hanging around and posting here still. I am the same - I need the support of these ladies and feel like I know everyone so well. Good luck sweetie and try not to stress, although I know that is pretty hard, as I am not able to take my own advice!
satya - I leave for my holiday three weeks from today, so too early for any airline to have an issue with me flying, It should be perfectly safe and I did check with my FS before booking and he said to go for it. It is just adding another dimension of stress because I am so scared that another m/c will, in addition to devastating me, ruin our holiday too.
megsmum - as scary as it is to be put on medication, your chances are really good. I have a read a lot of research that has said prog support after O does not increase the chances of a pg sticking, so clomid seems to be the better way to increase your prog in the latter part of your cycle, and thus improve your chances of a sticky bub. My prog was 150 on clomid! I hope this does the trick for you.
Hi to everyone else. I am feeling really really sick today. I did yet another HPT last night and the second line came up before the test line! It was there in less than a second. Hopefully that means all is well. I am still going to refuse the BT tomorrow, and just wait for the scan which should be at around 7 weeks. I couldn't even sleep last night, the nausea was so bad, and it woke me up this morning. I don't remember it being this bad with my other pgs, so am hoping it is a sign of a sticky bub. I received the OB info in the mail last night which makes it all seem so official and scary, some of the info is about labour, and there is no way I can even picture getting that far! The idea that I could have a baby is the last thing on my mind! Just surviving today is as far as I can think. Anyway, I am really hoping all goes well. I had to go to a fundraising thing last night and I was soooo tired and nauseous, plus then had to drive all the drunks home - lucky me.
but we saw the tiny heart, flickering away! i got very emotional, needless to say. He said I was about right with my dates (6 weeks today) and was very reassuring. He told me to come back in 2 weeks so i 'wouldn't have to worry' and told me the stats were in my favour. i know there are no guarantees but i feel pretty comfortable with the whole thing. anxious, but happy.
and my ob thinks that I should give Clomid a go. He thinks that I may not be ovulating (although my charts seem to indicate that I am??) or that i am not ovulating "well". I can't start this cycle because its too late (he says I need to take it from CD1 to CD5 and I'm CD4 today) so will have to wait till next month - bring on another short cycle please, please!!
to all the other lovelies in this thread, hoping to see you all move over to PAML soon, there are a few spare seats!
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