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  1. #1
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    Nov 2005
    LA LA Land
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    Jo,
    You will be in good hands at Monash. There are some wonderful OBs there especially when it comes to high risk.
    I have also had an amnio (3 actually). About the same as Deb - a bit freaky but absolutely no problems. I found it painless and I didn't have any cramping either time. Just rest up for a few days after.

    Best of luck and big hugs,
    Debbie

  2. #2
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    May 2008
    215

    Hi all

    Jo - I too am sure that they are just being extra careful this time around, can't be a bad thing.
    My DH has been away for work since Sunday and I have to say I am starting to hit a wall, I am missing him.
    Hammi - Yes, Cooper's EDD is looming like you say, and I think that is probably why I feel a little lost tonight without my DH, but on the upside I DO HAVE A FANTASTIC DS playing right here beside me, albeit getting into mischeif!! OH ****.... drawing on the wall.............

    OK I am back, yes as I was saying gorgeous.

    I am 5dpo today and doesn't help that I am over-analysizing every little twinge, but I have to say I feel soooo tired tonight. I know I know too early for any symptoms, it is probably just the sleep deprivation catching up to me from last week when DS was waking through the night.

    Anyway must head off for now.

  3. #3
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    Aug 2007
    Bridgewater Adelaide
    442

    Hi all,

    Hope everyone is well..... sorry too busy for personals, but I had to get this out.

    Just been at the kitchen at work and this lady who had a little girl around 3 years ago was saying "oh when I was pregnant, I still drank lots of coffee, I ate processed meat, had prawns and I think girls today go to the extreme and shouldnt worry about it"

    Man it made my blood boil..... because I dont drink coffee (as it reduces fertility) and if I was pregnant I wouldnt eat the wrong things which could harm my baby!!!!
    I just wouldnt take that risk.

    I think people who dont have issues with getting pregnant and holding onto their miracle do not understand what it is like to lose a child and I would do anything, anything at all, to have a miracle which I can hold.

    Sorry to vent all.

    xxx Sue xxx

  4. #4
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    Jul 2008
    Sweden
    148

    Sue, you are so right. Everyone's situation is different, and some of us might have to be a little more careful. And even if I don't HAVE to be, god, I certainly am going to be! Stuff that I was half-assed about before is strictly by-the-book now!

    Plus, her thinking makes my blood boil as a mathematician. Sure, her baby might have come out fine -- but does that mean EVERYONE'S does if they ignore all the doctors' advice? Of course not! There was a woman at my old job that I didn't like too much who was trying to pressure me into having wine when we were out at a restaurant with work for Christmas. She was like, "I drank a glass of wine here and there when I was pregnant, and my little girl is just fine!" I wanted to say "You never know, if you hadn't had wine, she might have turned out smart."

  5. #5
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    Dec 2007
    melbourne
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    hey girls!
    Hope you are all well in here and those charts that i can't understand are giving you some great news!! lol!
    Monash have booked me in for the 7th of aug, which seems like an eternity as i really want some answers now and it is weighing heavily on my mind. I have decided to see a natropath as i figure anything may be of help right now and i need to feel like i am heading in a more positive direction. Bubs is still moving every now again and i feel like i really have to savour every one of those movements right now. I just don't think i can go through anything bad again -i am trying to be positive but i want to be realistic at this stage too, kinda prep in case. My DH is gonna drop the kids at Child care and school that morning and mum has offered to come but i think she may make my nerves about 100 times worse, which i don't need. I have enough of my own. So we'll see...
    Sue - I am with you on the selfishness of comments and behaviour by people when they are preg. i have been thinking of a friend who smoked and drank EVERDAY (alcohol was wine but a few glasses every night!) and who did'nt seem concerned, her DH smokes too and they had this perfectly healthy little girl who is just adorable. But they did'nt care and throughout this i have been thinking about it and it has really irratated me, I do all the right things to, yet for the 2nd time things just don't seem to be going my way! I would do anything to mak sure this baby is ok, i even had a customer at work who said in front of her daughter that she should never been allowed to have kids as it just has'nt worked out for her etc and i wanted to slap her!! How awful for this little girl to hear that???? rant over!
    hgirs - your post made me smile about your DS. Sending you loads of cyber as you sound like you need them, hope your DH is home really soon for you. My DH used to do alot of night work and he could be gone for 24 hrs literally or i would'nt see him for a weekend at a time due to work and it does start to play on you after a while!
    angel babies- thanks for your hype about monash, the lady on the phone made me feel incredibly at ease and i feel very comfortable going there now. It IS good to hear from someone else though that has been with them - its been hard, this will be my 4th diffrent ultrasound place now!(2nd specialist one!)
    rozzie - updates??????????????? thinking of you!!!!!
    tildy - i am praying for your period to be missing on friday! hope all signs are pointing that way!
    take care guys! Thanks for all you support!
    x jo

  6. #6
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    May 2008
    170

    Hi all,

    I know how you feel about people being blase about their babies, the thing that makes my blood boil are the horrible stories of neglect you see. If you don't want your child then give to someone who'll love them, there are so many.

    Anyway, I did a ton more HPTs just for the fun of it, all + (though some are better than others!!) and seem to be getting darker. I'm taking this as a good sign!!! I'm seeing the immunologist tomorrow as he said he wanted to see me when I got pregnant. Tomorrow AF would have been due so I think it's official as of then!!! The parents are visiting tomorrow so I'll share the good news.

    Jo, I hope you get the reassurance you need, it does sound like it will be ok to me though, qualified medical professional that I am !!!!

    Rozzie

  7. #7
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    Jul 2008
    Sweden
    148

    Thanks, everyone, for your positive well-wishes.

    Rozzie - I'm probably going to end up doing like you, lots of tests just to see that plus again. I took the second one today after a good night's sleep and got a nice dark one. to us both!

    Helen and Sue - crossing my fingers for you both, so we can have a regular little baby boom here. And happy birthday, Helen!

    Hammi - are you feeling properly plugged up? I think I would immediately get pretty alert after hearing them suggest that... "You're going to put it WHERE?" Seriously though, I hope in my heart for you to be able to regain some energy. I don't consider myself a person who has a "fast lane" or stressful life, but after our loss the counselor made me see that I needed to learn how to relax, actively. I may have spent lots of evenings on the couch watching TV, but my MIND was never at rest. So for a while I came home from work every day and lay in bed for about an hour with my eyes closed, listening to a CD of rain sounds and soft music. It made a big difference in my ability to feel refreshed.

    Belly rubs to Jo and Katie as we watch their tickers race along. I think we're all hopeful about Jo's scans and will be glad when you see the positive results.

    Thanks, Flowerchild, I think I will. Later today perhaps, when I feel the need to slack off a bit at work. I've already made myself a new ticker, because I'm feeling good about this one. Not like jumping up and down for joy or anything yet, because it's still sinking in, but just pretty calm and positive.

  8. #8
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    Aug 2007
    Bridgewater Adelaide
    442

    Helen

    Wishing you a fantastic day.

    xxx Sue xxx

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    Jul 2008
    Sweden
    148

    Thanks, Jo -- I really have butterflies in my stomach. The spotting, which was so little but still very obvious, has totally disappeared now. So on the one hand I'm feeling a bit dumb for being so sure even before my period's supposed to arrive, but on the other hand, there seems to be no better explanation for me spotting 5 days before my period and then the spotting totally going away. Temp is still up, all other signs seem to be good. I'm trying to be a good girl and wait it out and not test too early, but the suspence is killing me! I'm all tingly and fuzzy inside and giggly. God, if it turns out to be BFN...

  10. #10
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    Dec 2007
    Sydney
    262

    Finger and toes crossed for a BFP for you Tildy!

    Jo, I wish your appt was sooner but maybe you can take some comfort from the fact that if they thought you're having trouble they'd rush you right in.

    Sue, I go through phases of thinking that something I did might've killed my Hamish but my GP told me that she has had patients who took drugs, smoked and drank there way to viable babies. And I thought the same as you - why was my much loved, much wanted little baby taken from me while people like that are blessed with a living child?

    I changed some setting on my chart and have got the cross-hair but I think it's in the wrong place. Not really worried as I'm not TTC for a few months yet.

  11. #11
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    Jun 2007
    Melbourne, Victoria
    500

    Hi all. I totally understand your frustrations at people being blase about pregnancy. I was a lot more relaxed with Nathaniel - and my previous Ob was very relaxed (more than the norm). This time around I have been very strict as I just don't want to take any chances and then blame myself forever if anything happened to this baby. I know with Nathaniel, I would get people telling me that it was ok to drink a glass of wine etc. My friend even told me with admiration about her friend who was also preg who had the ideology that women have had babies for thousands of years and they didn't cut anything out - I had to bite my tongue not to say back that 'yes this is true but infant death was also much higher!'

    This time around I have been very strict and thankfully not a single person has said anything to me. My sister did say that she ate processed meats etc, but she didn't go as far to criticise me for not. I think most understand that I am being extra cautious and respect that. To be honest if anyone commented rudely or tried to lecture me, I would snap!!! I have given up gluten (which I should anyway have I am intolerant), coffee, all cold meats, shellfish, alcohol etc and it works for me. Mind you I can't wait to splurge once I have this baby. My DH is always praising me for this as he sees me doing it for our baby.

    Oh and I also was told by a friend that a women she knows from back where they live (i vaguely know this woman) is preg and openly smoking and if people comment she says that it is her right. Her husband is not even happy about it - I just don't understand how someone could be so selfish given all the research about the long term affects plus the heightened risk of SIDS. We are heading back for DH's brother's 21st and I really hope I don't see this woman as it would upset me too much. I am very strict about people not smoking around me, and once the baby is born I won't tolerate smoke around her either. DH lost 2 brothers to SIDS and we have both agreed that we won't be taking any chances with this precious baby.

    Rant officially over!!! So yes I am on the same page as all of you - some people just don't get how precious babies are and how unfortunately it is to lose them.

    Jo - glad to hear that you are getting some good direction from Monash. I am so happy to hear that you are feeling the movements - and yes enjoy them as they are special. I am going to pray very hard for this little bubba. I have often wondered how they work out what is considered 'small' - I was only 6lb when I was born and my mum says I was tiny - of course back then they didn't have scans so she never would have known anyway. I believe my DH was even smaller again.

    Rozzie - glad to hear you a still getting nice lines on the HPTS. I did 8 before I was convinced - they are addictive. I am sure your parents will be thrilled with your news.

    Tildy - i am keeping my fingers crossed for you. Do you think you will be able to hold out testing? I was anal and refused until AF was about 4 days late - I just didn't want to know about a chem preg or get a BFN. Let us know if you do decide to test early. Very exciting.

    Simba - I am so jealous that you can see bub moving from the outside. My belly is huge but I have not yet seen the baby moving externally. DH is still yet to feel the kicks - everytime I put this hand on my stomach the baby goes quiet. We think she is cheeky!

    Hi to all - off to bed.