Firstly, welcome Noni and I'm very sorry for your loss. I've lost my son Joshua at 20 weeks, because I had a big fibroid that put too much pressure on my uterus. I've now had the fibroid removed and will do a frozen embryo transfer in a couple of months hopefully. I have Josh's ashes at home too, and I have a little corner for him with all his little bits and pieces. On his due date on 12/2 I bought him a cute blue bunny rabbit holding a blue bunny rug. I just couldn't resist it it's so cute!! Good luck on your app. in March, I hope your doctors can answer all of your questions.
Please feel free to talk whenever you feel the need to, we are all here for you. I know you'll find a lot of support here.
Laney, I'm so sorry you've just gone through a major scare. You poor love. By the sounds of it it's because little bub was putting pressure on your cervix, so please put your feet up as much as possible and rest, rest and rest!!!!!! I hope things will work themselves out soon, big hugs hun
Diana, the dreaded 2WW!! They say it's the hardest part of IVF and I can see why!! When I had my 2WW, my DF was in China for work during the second week of waiting, so because I was missing him so much, it took my mind off the actual nervous wait!! When I got my result on the Friday, he still wasn't back so I had to tell him over the phone. I so wished he was here in person.
I so hope and pray your little one is holding on tight, and I pray your wait goes quickly and that you get that beautiful phone call to say 'Congratulations, you're pregnant!!" Always thinking of you hun and always praying hard!!
Dee, I'm glad everything went very smoothly on Tuesday, and I pray that your little emmy sticks too. When do you test hun??? I'm guessing around 10/3?? I pray for a BFP for you too hun, it would be awesome for you and Diana (our IVF ladies) to get a BFP in early March!!
Nae, not sure about your cycle hun, it's hard to tell, especially after your m/c. I think it's best to have regular 'relations' and test only when you have missed your AF. You sound like you are regular like clockwork (lucky you, me too!!!) so things should settle soon for you. Remember, have fun and enjoy each other's company.
The nappies sound so cute, a lot of people are into the cloth ones.....I must investigate this. Would have been a bit sad to get them but at the same time, exciting for the things still to come!!!!! Always praying for a BPF for you too hun, you deserve it so much
Teagz, I think implantation bleed, otherwise what is AF doing so early?????!!!! Like the girls said it could be a bit early for the implantation bleed, but I say, YOU NEVER KNOW!!!!! Praying hard this is it for you and what fabulous 21st present that would be!!!!! No AF damnit!!!
Theresa, there always going to be milestones, hey? I think it's so lovely that you light a candle for Zachary on the 24th of each month....I still light one for Josh every day, I just can't stop doing it. My DF laughed and said we'll go broke soon buying the candles LOL. I think I'm going to light them on special occasions soon...
Good luck with your nuchlan scan hun, i'm so happy little bub is doing great
Rozzie, can't believe you'll be having bub in possibly 4 weeks!!! Wow, where has the time gone?! Countinue to look after yourself and have a lovely relaxing materninty leave...
Lan and Megan, praying for BFPs for both of you girls, hope it's very soon
Oooooooh, I thought I was only previewing my post, whaaaaaaat!!! I haven't finished yet.....sorry!!!!!
Second part he he
I also wanted to say good luck to Jo76 with your TCC I pray your get your BFP very soon too hun!!!
A big big hello to all out lovely mummas in waiting, hope the time flies for all of you!!!!
AFM, I have my doctor's appointment tomorrow morning. I think he's going to run some blood tests and in his words 'get the ball rolling'. Oh how I want to have my transfer now!! I just can't wait. The overwhelming feeling I have these days to be pregnant again is so big, I just can't wait to be in my 2WW!!!!!!!!!!
The wee trip was really relaxing, but now I'm all stressed as I have to go back to work on Monday. I just haaaaaaate my work, and I often feel stressed there. I was actually thinking of quitting, but I will lose my 12 week paid maternity leave if I leave now and get pregnant soon. Still, I hate it there, it might just tip me ove the edge and I'll quit soon anyway....
hi ladies, hope you're all good today. i've been having a very thoughtful day. my bbs are sore, i'm ovulating on monday i think and i'm feeling surprisingly nervous! i've been hoping and waiting for this to happen and now i have so many thpughts in my head. like what if it happens again. we changed doctors as the last one said he wouldn't consider us high risk as it happened only once and he can't tell why...so that wasn't very encouraging. are you girls going to have different type of management in anyway? anything you didn't do last time? like i need to find a high risk doctor or something in perth, i don't know...then i read about progesterone suppositries (tmi) helping to stop preterm labour sorry i know i'm just going on and on....i don't know
Teagz hun, so glad to be back!!! Hate being away from my computer and you girls, I miss you too much!! I'm praying something magical is happening in there for you, you need the BPF so bad hun!!!! Seriously, what a great 21st present, hey????
Praying with all my might all the time, for all of our loveley girls TTC, we need some BFPs in here!!!!! Pleeeeeeese!!!!!!!!!!
Noni, I think it's important to first talk with the doc and perhaps try and find out why you went into pre term labour. I started having contractions just after my 20 week scan, and it turned out that my fibroid was being starved of oxygen and started irritating the uterus. At least I knew why I lost my son. My FS/OB never thought this would happen, as if he did, he would have removed the offending lump before I got pregnant. I am sticking with my current FS/OB, not sure if I need a high risk doc. Because the fibroid is now gone, there is no reason why I can't carry again.
I'd suggest to really talk all your concerns through with your doctor, and if he/she can't give you any decent answers, please get a second opinion. Do you think you might have a weak cervix perhaps? Have you discussed it with your doc? This might very well not be the reason, but it's worth looking into. Perhaps the progesterone is the answer.... I think you need to ask a lot of questions and hopefully get some answers.
I would also suggest to read a book on miscarriage as I read a few and I found a lot of interesting information there. I ended up asking heaps of questions when I visited my doc after Joshua was born, and he was surprised on my level of knowledge! I think being well informed is the basis to start asking the right questions, and hopefully getting to the source of the problem!
hi B, thanks for your answer. you gave me somethings to think about. i guess i'm nervous beacuse i have to do doctor huning again etc etc. no they said my cervix was fine, i had no fibroids, i had no contractions until that night we lost him. just bizzare. i have dealt with it though and was just feeling nervous. it's just irritating not knowing why...thanks anyway, you sound like you'll be fine so that's excellent
Hi Noni,
It's just devastating losing a baby half way through a pregnancy. I remember I still felt like something would go wrong even after my 12 week scan. Because I did IVF and also ICSI (they inject the sperm straight into the egg) I always thought the rate of the miscarriage for me was slightly higher than someone going through IVF without the invasive ICSI. After I had my scan at 20 weeks, I actually started to feel more relaxed, and then bang, I went into labour. I started having contractions a good 3 days before I gave birth, except I thought it was the pain from my fibroid (that's what they were treating when I got admitted to hospital to begin with). Then I realised they were contractions and not the pain from the fibroid.
Was your scan at 20 weeks all good? Oh hun, it's so hard not having a reason ATM.
I know this is a sensitive question, but did they do an autopsy on your little boy? I've read somewhere in the many books (I've lost count on how many I've read...) that a miscarriage in the second trimester is very rare (1% of all pregnancies). The books also strongly recommended to investigate a late miscarriage thoroughly. I didn't have to have the autopsy done on Joshua as the doc knew it was the fibroid that caused the miscarriage. One book I read said that sometimes the baby dies days or even weeks before it's actually born (ie the baby died at 16 or 17 weeks but was only born at 20) so it's really important to find out if possibly there was an infection in the womb. Another book said that sometimes the membreanes rapture for some reason, and that's why the baby is born too soon.
Please don't give up looking for the asnwer, as I believe that there is always a reason for everything that happens. When the doctors say they don't know why a miscarriage happened, I think they say this as they just don't know or don't have the knowledge or (I'm sorry to say) couldn't be bothered to really look deep for the reason. But there must be a reason and that's why it's important to explore all avenues. Please ask lots of questions Noni, and get second opinions if you feel like you're not getting any answers. Did you have your own OB from the start or were you going public and didn't have one doctor in particular?
Love B xxx
I Dunno, Beata. I started charting on Monday and that's doing some weird things as well! We'll just wait and see, i'm not going to get my hopes up because last time I did and i was seriously gutted!
I'm glad your holiday was nice, it is always nice to be back though isn't it? Sometimes you feel like you get back and you need a holiday from your holiday
Noni, When I lost Jayvan they say that he had died around 15/16 weeks. It wasn't picked up until I went it for my monthly check up and my Dr wasnt able to find a heart beat. Somehow my body and kept him in and he kept growing (when he was born his measurements were all right for a 17w6d baby) My body just didn't want to let him go, and I had to be induced. All they could tell us from the autopsy was that his internal cavity filled with fluid, but they weren't able to find out what had caused this.
I find it very weird that your Dr thinks you aren't highrisk, especially when you were so far into your pregnancy. For our next pregnancy our Dr is ordering more regular ultrasounds which we need to have in Perth as the equipment is much more detailed than what it is in Bunbury. In a way I'm kind of excited because I love those 3D scans, but then sometimes ignorance is bliss, and I'm not entirely sure what to expect.
Don't apologise for going on and on, this thread is excellent from thinking out loud!
It's good to hear you will O on monday! At least your cycle is back in time, hopefully a little bundle willcome quicly for you! Make use of the Long Weekend we're getting! hehe (I think i read somewhere that you're in perth? if you aren't I apologise!!)
- sheesh can I use anymore exclamation marks? I really do need to cut down...
DD & Dee, Just making sure you still know that I'm hoping with all my might you two get sticky little embies!
Rozzie, well done on your scan! 4 Weeks!! Thats not long at all!
to all you other TTC'ers, and to the other preg mumma's. I'm off to get ready for work. xxx
Hi girls, am soooo busy at work so sorry I don't have time for huge perssies this morning.
Welcome back Beata and I hope you enjoyed your wee get away. Where did you go? What did you do? Work on Monday - yuk... but please try not to get too stressed and just focus on the months ahead. You will only have about 8 or 9 months to go then you be off for a whole year
Teagz, thanks for the good vibes girl. You're a treasure.
Noni
Rozzie, 4 weeks! That's fantastic. Can't wait to be there....
I just have to have a vent as I am so cranky! I got a bill from my old OB yesterday after 8 months! 8 months! It's for 4 visits with him prior to my loss. Do you believe it? Who does he think he is sending me a bill after the way he treated me? I don't know whether to call and abuse, write a nasty "get f***ked, you killed my son" letter or just pay the darn thing and get rid of him from my life forever. I just can't believe his nerve
thanks for the advice ladies, my little was still alive as i was lying there in the hospital with my legs in the air as they were hoping gravity would help keep him in. his heart beat was fine and he was moving around (in distress) it was just terrible. they did do a swab in there to check for infections etc. i go back to the hospitala (king edward) in a few weeks for the results of the autopsy, but we opted to have the basic one...no cutting him up etc. no i wonder if we'll get enough info. so as for infection i don't know. we were public patients so maybe that didn't help either..we're getting our own doctor this time. i have to look for one who will take this serioulsy. any ideas in perth? the 18 week ultrasound was beautifl, nothing odd at all and no uti. it just is what it is. when doctor at the hospital said this only happens in less that 1% of cases, i thougt i was going to go mad. what are the chances ! i had lots of tests with a gp afterwrads and he found no infections in there etc...tahnks for listening and sharingyour thoughts. yep i will make use of the long weekend
this is it for you and what fabulous 21st present that would be!!!!! No AF damnit!!!
sorry i know i'm just going on and on....i don't know
and that's doing some weird things as well! We'll just wait and see, i'm not going to get my hopes up because last time I did and i was seriously gutted! 
to all you other TTC'ers, and 
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