Babies Born April 2008 #3

[Sharon19270]

sarah thanks, I know that there is just no pleasing men, just gets very frustrating for me especially when I am the only female in the house.
BabyWrangler LOL at your Ob saying that most people couldn't be bothered to express and bottle feed, he's referring to people like me
bellelass my 19 yo's life here isn't all that comfy, he moved out for a while but got asked to leave by the people he was staying with because he was lazy, we used his old room for the nursery and we only have a 3 bedroom house, so he is currently sleeping on a mattress on the floor in the office, with his clothes still in his suitcase, he is hardly ever home for dinner, and he has done his own washing for about the last 5 years as I refused to go rummaging through his bedroom to find dirty washing. Thank you for you advise, I was just having a bad day. Lila probably uses that 4th day of hers to catch up on the sleep that she misses out on over the other 3 days, it's frustrating, I know.
Katstribe yay, nice to see you here. DS was asked to leave by the people he was staying with because he was lazy, and he had nowhere else to go so DH and I weren't going to make him sleep in his car, so he has a mattress on the floor in the office. Lets that there is a miracle cure out there somewhere. That's great that Molly is doing so well with BF and you lucky bugger getting some 7 hour nights of sleep, the longest Oliver seems to go (occaisionally) is 5, maybe 6 hours but he still then needs his 2am feed, can't wait till he stops needing that one, I think I will start to feel a little bit more human when that happens.
shellbell it's nice to see you pop in here when you can, sounds like Luke is going great, and congrats on the 6 hour stretch of sleep at night, that would be sooooooooo nice.

After my crappy day yesterday I am going to try and be a little bit more positive today, that may all go out the window (including Oliver ) if he is unsettled again today. Had a talk with DH last night and he wants me to speak to someone about how i've been feeling, I think he is worried that I am getting PND and thinks that it is best to talk to someone sooner rather than later, so I will be taking Oliver to the community nurse on Friday and I might have a chat with her. He also said that if I am ever having a bad day I am to call him at work, and as long as he doesn't have any meetings he will come home and work from home.

I have woken up with a sore throat today, I really don't want to get sick, I am the type of person who hardly ever gets colds/flu the last time I had the flu (not just a bad cold like men like to confuse the flu with) was about 2 years ago, but if this cold progresses, it will be the 2nd cold i've had in 4 weeks.

Last night Oliver was such a good boy, but he was so cute, while he was getting his nappy changed he was 'trying' to talk, he had these cute little gurgling noises going in the back of his throat, and we have definitely been getting the odd smile, it's these little things that make up for the crappy days because it just melts your heart.

[BabyWrangler]

Sharon,
I agree, the smiles are a heart melter.
BJ gave us a few early on (at 3 weeks...which we assumed were wind til the health nurse saw him smile on day when he was looking me in the eyes, and she said they were real).
The other morning, DH was cuddling him while I got ready to go out and he got 7 in a row wile talking to him...oh my god so gorgeous.he just won't do it when the camera comes out....he goes all serious!
BJ seems to be almost trying to cut out a feed at night (which is great, but confusing!), he feeds about 9:30 or 10pm, then has been going through til between 3 and 4, then through til 8 or 9....rather than waking at 2 and waking at 6.
Whilst this isn't a problem, it makes mummy confused about trying to squish in another feed or not!

Also, we had him set to an 8:30pm bedtime which meant DH would see him for about an hour when he got home from work, just meant we had a late tea as we wait til he settles first before cooking and eating. BJ has decided on a 7pm bedtime....Poor DH doesn't get home til about 7:30pm!

[Beatrix]

Regarding Smiles they are absolutly precious!!! We have been getting heaps now (but Mj is a bit older then most) she has also now discovered hw to makes noises!! besides screming that it.

Sharon- wow you son sounds like my sister!!! same age as well. that must be what it is. hope you have a better day with Oliver today

BW- wow a bed time? lucky you. i have absolutly no routine at all.


Hello to all the new mums who have popped in Shell and Kat

well i best be cleaning the house while my older two are at daycare and Mj is asleep

[bellelass]

how do i get my baby to sleep during the day??? (have tried everything but letting her cry) is there something wrong with her that makes her stay wide awake from 4 am-9pm?? any ideas?

[Taurusa]

Morning all! I had a wonderful night with caleb, we decided to 'try' and get some sleeping happening. I got some settling techniques of a website and he has taken to them really well. I can not leave him when he is crazy crying, but if it is a grizzle then i can do that. But when the crazy crying starts i pick him up and settle him and then put him down. It says (the website) to turn them on their side and pat them till the crying stops, this has really worked!!!!! So excited about it... just 'dangerous' when you turn them back onto their back... just hoping they don't wake up again

[Beatrix]

Steph- have you got a swing?? I have one and its a god send, plus a vibrating bouncer works a treat too. how do you put her down. Mj will not sleep on her back and she sleep on her side. I have one of those safe sleepers that allow for sleeping on her side.

yay Taurasa on Celeb sleeping

[Zennie]

hay steph ,

Just curious, has lila started having play time? i find that Russell will go down no problem after hes had some playtime, around an hour or so , but if he dosnt have it he will be a real pain in the bum. maybe stimulating her might help to set a awake routine and help her mp out her day. playtime whether with us or on his mat has done wonders for russell and happens every morning between his 8-9.30 sleep and his 10.30 sleep and am starting to do this in the arvos aswell after his afternoon nap.

welcome to all you newbies

As for me , my boys being an angel while dads away( wonder why???)

[alittlegrubi]

Wow, miss out for a day or two and there is too much to read and absorb in one go, so I apologise for the filtered responses:

Fire in relation to the sucking fingers - I'd agree with you that it is like a suppressor unless the baby is choosing to do it him/herself. I used to give DS my little finger to suck when he needed comfort sucks as he had silent reflux, screamed if given comfort boob. Lactation consultant told me to use the finger. My DS has his bottle as his comforter now, but I put that down to always offering a bottle once we stopped BF, so I would think that offering your finger is better than his - less likely to result in a comforter. Being that they supposedly don't make associations until 3 months, if it helps you get through....
As for the snuffles at 2am on is that possibly because of the air at that time of the morning, the cold maybe, would it be worth looking at the room temp/humidity whatever it is that they suggest for asthma?

Sharon sorry to hear that DS is making life hard again. I think that you and DH are doing all the right things with him. I remember at 24 my Dad telling me that I was using the house as a hotel and needed to live by his rules if I was going to stay. Doubt that would work with DS. Maybe you need to smother him. Hope he doesn't end up like my BIL 34 never had a job and still at home. He does have psychological issues though.

As for the cold's thing, you will find that you will get sick as your immune system is down, don't worry it improves back to how you're used to it. PND - try taking fish oil and vitamin b tablets to assist if it is a chemical imbalance which comes with sleep deprevation that adds to the stress. I did and it helped me as it was more stress than actual PND.

Steph I actually find putting them in a sling or carrier assists with them getting some sleep, if you don't need it too. If you need it too, lay down with bubs tummy to tummy on your chest.

Sarah to you for having to deal with three kids on your own. I know how DS's can be at that age and I think it is a combo of age and wanting to keep their place on the pecking order.

Kat,Taurusa welcome to our growing group.

We are happy with our sleep routine, feed and bed around 8.30pm awake at around 1.30am for about an hour and then asleep until 7.30am various times during the day, so getting closer to sleeping through.
Hello and hope you are all doing well for those I missed.

Got to go and get on with the day.

[Sequoia]

BJ seems to be almost trying to cut out a feed at night (which is great, but confusing!), he feeds about 9:30 or 10pm, then has been going through til between 3 and 4, then through til 8 or 9....rather than waking at 2 and waking at 6. Whilst this isn't a problem, it makes mummy confused about trying to squish in another feed or not!

BabyWrangler - Baxter is 2 days younger than BJ and seems to be following the same routine ATM too. I've been setting my alarm so he doesn't go any longer than 5 hours overnight without a feed, but am wondering if I really need to?

Sorry for lack of personals. I just wanted to let you all know that Baxter put on 215gms for the week yesterday! Isn't that wonderful? After crappy weight gains, he is finally on the up and up! We still have his renal and bladder scan on Thursday but I am confident it will be clear. He is starting to really fatten up and give us lots of smiles.

to Sharon.

SG
xo

[MagicSeahorse]

Hi ladies. I'm new to this thread.
My name is Lisa, and my little boy Hunter arrived 8 1/2 weeks early, on 3rd April. Yes, he's due next week! We spent a week in NICU and 5 weeks in special care. We have been home 2 weeks, and feeling very sleep deprived.

We live in a rural area, and have to travel a very long way to go to a mothers group. Hope to swap advice and stories with you all.


Lisa

[Beatrix]

hi lisa and wecome!!!!

wow your little man was eagar to arrive!!

if you ever get to lonely i am always up for a chat on msn if you have it

mummynessa@hotmail.com

[Nettie]

Hello eveyone! Wow, lots of newbies - welcome to you all!

Hi Kirsty!! Nice of you to join us!

Liam's grown 2 cms in the last 8 days and has put on another 240 gms. Such a clever little boy! We started our 'parents group' today which was nice. I already knew two girls there so it was very exciting!

We've decided to begin a formula feed of a night (last feed before midnight) to see if that helps with the sleeping through thing and because I'm not keeping up with my milk (for the newbies: my baby has a cleft palate and can't attach to the breast so I exclusively express breastmilk and feed via special bottle). I'm expressing at every feed, but I'm beginning to not get as much out as he's taking in. So we're working our way backwards at the moment. I'm working on things to build up my supply better, but it's hard going and I'm waiting until I see the Dr on Tuesday next week. I've also ordered some herbal tea through the health food shop that was recommended to me by a mother in the parents group.

Can't stay (sorry for no personals). Got a casserole in the oven and am going to lay down (Liam's asleep) while it cooks! Every minute helps, right??

[mgm]

there's so much going on in here - i can't keep up! hello and welcome to all the new mums.

shoegal great news. i'm sure baxter will continue to do brilliantly. well done.

fire don't worry, you're not the only one whose baby doesn't sleep for long stretches. my deal with dd is this: as long as she goes back to sleep after her nighttime feeds, i don't care how many she has. (i reserve the right to renegotiate the deal as soon as i get sick of it, which will probably be any day now).

routines - we don't have one at this stage. she is changing daily so i just go with the flow. no set 'bedtime' either.

must go, have to sling tired dd to sleep. have a good night everyone!

[kirsty_lee]

Nettie!! DO IT its amazing, ava-jayde has a formula feed at 9.30 after having both boobs and she sleeps 8 1/2 hours its GREAT i started this after a week and a half of her waking every 15 mins at night for a feed i was exhasuted

[alittlegrubi]

Welcome Lisa, Kristy and Dee - look forward to chatting.

Nettie you have been doing an amazing job exclusively expressing for this long you have given Liam the goodness he needs and comp feeding - part BF, part formula will meet his needs and yours. Have you thought about trying to express every 2-3 hours even if Liam isn't feeding?

Taurusa a sleep routine will come, it will change many times before it is set in concrete.

Fire I find that the later bedtime routine helps with Greer staying asleep through to the otherside of midnight allowing me to get a good 3 hours of premidnight sleep which is such better sleep than after midnight. Also it is DS's sleep time so I get to cosleep with him and he doesn't miss out. For you a later time might give you the chance to sleep with DD until she falls asleep as well as helping with Ci.

Sharon hope you enjoyed your PJ day. If your feelings aren't so much PND as sleep deprived stress coupled with situation with the oldest DS, I found that working out what was causing the stress was half the battle won for me. YOu do need to talk to someone about your feelings, but be prepared that you will need to do the majority of the work to fix it.

COLOR="darkorchid"]Beatrix[/COLOR] hope things have improved a little for you and DH. We are doing well, I had a drama this morning as DH didn't get up early enouhg to get DS ready for daycare so I said I'd take him in... changed both kids nappies this morning DS had the biggest poohy nappy ever.. it is bin collection day so I took the nappies out to the bin already on the verge, came back and DS had locked me out of the house. DD was crying by the time I coaxed DS into unlocking the door again so I had a talk with DH about needing to ensure that he could get DS to daycare.

Shoegal I can understand why you would be wanting to ensure Baxter gets his feeds in, but as long as his weight gain continues next time you have him weighed I wouldn't worry about it - get your sleep, he'll let you know if he is hungry.

Got to go get DS into the bath now that DS has insisted on an early feed and has fallen asleep.