Babies Born April 2008 #3

[bellelass]

hallelujah, i got 8 straight hours of sleep last night. she'd only slept for 4-5ish broken hours for the past 5 days with tiny catnaps during the day, so i knew there had to be a breaking point. she went down a 10, up at 5 and had 200mls, and wow she's asleep again... I don't expect it to ever happen again, but for now I'm just so grateful.

sharon- I'll either get her back on the breast or invest in an electric pump. Am weighing the options. I don't think I'll ff, I have such a good supply it almost seems like some terrible waste to not use it. And we're pretty poor and bm is so cheap.. I'm just **** scared to try to put her back on the breast, after all the pain and pain pain pain and bleeding I went through before...

Janine- have given Lila the Hep B shot, and intend to have her MMR's at the very least. I'm a bit concerned about the one that contains thermisol (think thats what its called) as its been linked to autism... What are your reasons for being anti-injection? (website since Im sure it would take ages to write all about it...)

MGM- Lila liked Eurovision, too. Maybe a coincidence, but she was quite settled when it was on. hehe.

As for husbands... I encourage mine to go out and see his friends at least one night a week. Usually its him and a mate drinking beers and playing xbox for a few hours. Just that little bit lets him feel like he's still a person I guess. Not like I get any time like that, but I will soon enough when Lila's a little bigger. Anyway, the point is, that time is important to him and he comes home relaxed and refreshed and wanting to help out. Or maybe its guilt. Either way, he is happy and I'm happy because he is and because he comes home so ready to give me a little break and be a nurturing daddy for a few hours.

And I make a huge effort to dtd every few days even if Im exhausted and don't feel like it. Sex is important to him, not just the physical act, but feeling close to me and being loved in a way only I can provide for him. Its nothing protracted or earth-shattering usually but I think its important for us. It still feels a bit strange down there, almost like I've had a v-transplant or something, but its coming back slowly... Sorry if this is tmi but I think its important.

[Fire]

How on earth are you all getting your babies to sleep that long?

*grumble grumble*

I guess I'll have to deal with my lot cos his snuffles wake him and only feeds or sitting up for a while clears his nose. So I'm feeding almost hourly after 2am. I can't wait until he outgrows that.

Steph, you're right, it's a long history of research and I risk soundy preachy or judgmental so I'm trying to find satanicvaccines.com, which cuts to the chase (as you can tell by the name!), but they won't let me access it today. But the book Vaccination Roulette was informative for the layman. There are vax sites giving real research and info, not hyperbole. Actually, AVN has that book, and is not a bad website, although it is still building.

Thermisol is mercury. They use other names so if a parent reads the packaging, they can't really tell. Kinda like the food manufacturers who use numbers instead of the real ingredients. They have taken the mercury out of some vaxes (so they tell us), this year. But they still contain formaldehyde and dangerous proteins. Many babies have no reactions that you can see immediately, and that's the key. Parents think that cos their kid had no reaction, all is well and they coped with it. But that chemical ****tail is swarming in their immature veins for the rest of their life, and not all the damage is immediately seen. My kids (and myself) are not vaxed and we don't get sick like vaxed kids do. My daughter hasn't had her immune system hammered by vaxes so ironically, she is healthier and it shows. Yet my niece in the states is fully vaxed and ended up hospitalised with measles. The stats from that outbreak report that just as many vaxed kids as the unvaxed got the measles. So it isn't even working. Plus, they don't take effect for at least a year (they even tell us that), so doing it to protect an infant is pointless, they won't be an infant anymore by the time they apparently "work". And yeah, the link between toxins like mercury and autism has been effectively proven, they just are being a little dicey with releasing that info.

/rant

[Fire]

My doula made a homebirth video and I'm in it! I'm a celeb . Although I'm in the "when things go wrong" segment, which is about 2 minutes into it. I cried when I saw it, my husband and daughter and midwife... all supporting me... *sob*. For a looksee (for those with any time left after kidwrangling)

homebirth

[bellelass]

Wow... I cried watching that, brought back so many emotions from Lila's birth. I'm such a sook lately. I put my story up in the birth stories forum- here. Was pretty normal I suppose, but I think it changed something in the way I see myself on a very elemental level. Empowering I suppose. If I can do that, I can do anything...

Ahh grizzly bear awakes...

[Fire]

I can't get the link to work, Steph, but I'd love to read your birth story.

[Zennie]

hi All Thanks so muck for the wonderfull support this week.

soo Dh made an appearance at home on wed night and was much more supportive than he had been in a long time(even ditched origin with his mates to be at home with us). he understands now that i need some me time and us time as much as he needs his me time. as for spending time with his friends ( they are real dycks) but none the less i make the effort any way. it is going to take time but hes slowly coming around to thinking as a family 1st and an induvidual 2nd. and i agree sex is essential in our relationship.

We went to friends 21st last night and Russell was really good, he slept from 5.00 till 9, feed andback to sleep till we left at 10.30 he grizzled on the way home still asleep feed at 11 then slept till 3am and up again at 5:30 and was up and down untill 11am today. however is refusing to sleep on his back today. so is currently on his tummy and farting like a champ in his sleep. hes generally pretty good for 4-6 hours block sleep at night and 2-3 hours during the day. hes very alert and awake and playing most of the morning and afternoon.

Dp leaves for dolby tomorrow for work so we will see how this week goes

[Fire]

Grubi, re overfeeding, it's confusing isn't it? I can't figure it out. I read a real AP book that advocates comfort nursing, yet they chuck if they eat too much!

Do any of you think that it's the ability your kids have of sucking that helps them sleep? DH is trying to teach DS to suck his fingers and sometimes it works, but like a dummy, it feels like suppression to me so I'm grappling with it. So I'm wondering what you think the trick is at your house. Blankies and dummies and stuff are identified as things that stop a baby/child from expressing crying or other emotion, and I've seen that in DD now that she's older what Blankie did for her, good and bad. I am trying not to repeat certain mistakes. Anyone have an opinion on this?

Zennie, I'm glad things are looking up.

[Zennie]

Janine - i let Russell comfort suck at the boob rather than offer his dummy and would rather hold him and comfort him then leave him to work it out for himself and so far todate, he will rarely take a dummy to settle and when he dose its usually when we are in the car. Russell seems to settle better when allowed to comfort himself in the way that he wants to be comforted and i think thats the key, do how they want it to be done and empower DS not suppress him with alternative mechanisms. so if he wants to suck his fingers id let him but wouldnt force it on him, more let him discover for himself.

[BabyWrangler]

Hmm the quick reply button disappeared again!

My DS has a dummy, mainly because of the reflux, I don't want him sucking on me all the time because he has thickener in his EBM, and when I DID let him have me the other day, he had heaps more wind than he's had for days....so its dummy for him!

His routine is going really well, 10, 2 and 6 feeds 2-3 hour sleeps in between, he's got a bit of cradle cap at the moment, really really mild, but we are going to anti-dandruff it every 2nd day for a week or so and that should knock it on the head.

He's drinking about 125ml of thickened EBM each feed at the moment with a top up "dream feed" at about 10pm, rather than just letting him sleep as long as he wants....I'm being quite rigid with it mainly because of his Zantac, I like to keep it evenly spaced...

[Nettie]

Janine- my little man's snuffles keep him awake too. Because of his cleft palate if he gets any excess fluid in his mouth, it makes him snuffly in his nose (no separation).. poor tyke!

Liam liked Eurovision too! ha ha ha...

DH gave me a wonderful gift this morning and sent me back to bed after the 8 am feed. He insisted I stay there as long as I wanted and he'd look after DS. So I slept until midday! Wonderful!!

Belle - expressing's not that bad. I exclusively express & bottle feed and although there's more work involved (washing up, feeding AND expressing as separate activities, etc) I've adjusted fine and I don't mind the time it takes. At least I know my little man is getting the best stuff. Lucky you if you're supply is good. I'm struggling with mine at the moment...

Think we're heading for the 'wonder week' for week 6 (begins Thursday). Liam's already feeding more like 3 hrs than 4 again. Will walk him down to CYH tomorrow to weigh him again just to check his progress. He's been a little more grizzly than normal but he's also been more playful than normal - smiling and interracting really well in short bursts. I'm thinking we'll have to start up a routine to help us cope with feeds/sleep/bath/etc... at the moment we live by the seat of our pants! At least today I managed to get a shower in (DS doesn't like baths), tummy time, play time (even read a book!) and a walk! But he's quite grizzly tonight so it might have all been a bit much for the little fella!

to everyone. particulary those with relationship issues or sleep deprivation!

[Fire]

He won't comfort suck on the boob, he gets milk and overfeeds then chucks. Or worse, usually he just screams, won't take it. But still wants to suck. Very stressful. He tries to shove his fist in, but struggles so DH is teaching him how to get a finger in. I'd love to comfort feed him, but it just isn't happening. It's a wreck.

BW, olive oil overnight, then gentle brushing with a baby brush, or gentle washing knocks cradle cap on the "head" so to speak. It can hurt to take them off too roughly or fast. But that ol' fashioned remedy has done the trick million times over. Ci has a little cradle cap, which leads me to believe he might get it like DD did, which was pretty thick layer on the scalp. I don't really care too mcuh, but this time I might do the olive oil thing and stop it progressing.

[sarah_dobbo2]

Afternoon all,

How is everyone copping? This is going to be a ME post, as haven't posted in while.

Me ok, it could be alot better, but am managing at moment. DH has gone away for work for the WHOLE WEEK. Was so teary when he left. I kept thinking what IF's someone where to happen to him while he was away. Am so dam emtional still, I thought it would end. Granted it's not everyday just the overtired run-down days/early morning days too.

DS is driving me MAD at moment. I don't know if it is a man thing or 2's thing or a attention seeking thing, be he just doesn't seem to listen. Or he just pushes my buttons. Don't know if he or I will surive the week without DH to give me time away from him.

DD goes for her brown belt in Kung Fu this afternoon. She is very excited about it. Am going down to watch. My car is playing up at moment (battary), I was going to drop DS off at Grannies for an hr, and go watch her in peice and get my photos of her, but don't want to turn car off just incase wont start. It's booked in for full service on Wednesday. So am sort of house bound till then.

DH well he hasn't been much help. Granted it my fault 'cos I don't let him. It's not that it's more of I'll get it done faster. So when he comes back I will be giving Wyatt to him more often when he gets home, also so they can bond together. With DS DH would always be home to give bath, but with Wyatt he has only done 2 since being born.

Wyatt well he bounding along. Went to his first Grass Enduro (motor cross). Was windy and raining, but I had him in his Ergo carrier which he loves and slept most of the day away. The noise didn't faze him much. However he/me has gotten into the habit of holding him until he is asleep. Would like some tips which work on how to get out of it ASAP.

Feel better now it's off chest...

Cheers
Sarah

Anyway

[Sharon19270]

I feel like I am useless as a mother!

my eldest DS is a lazy so and so and is just taking us for a ride, doesn't look for work, goes out and stays out till all hours of the morning etc, can't kick him out though as he has no where to go and that would stress me out even more. DS#2 is feeling a little jealous, I got very emotional yesterday when he told DH that he didn't want me and Oliver to come out for the family day yesterday. And Oliver has been VERY unsettled all day today, he only goes down for 1 sleep cycle, then wakes up again and screams, I have a massive headache and just feel like I am going to snap/explode.

[sarah_dobbo2]

Sharon: Poor thing... It's really not you. They are MEN, and I have come to the judgement they just can't be pleased.
I hope you feel better soon. Good to see you..

Better go Wyatt just woke up
Sarah

[BabyWrangler]

Hi all,
Just a quick one...I resigned today, both me and my boss cried!
Thanks for the advice re cradle cap...DS head currently smells like we are about to make brekky on it! Lots of it gone now though which is good!
Went to OB for post natal, he's stunned that I expess and bottle feed....said most people don't have the patience to bother....just doesnt seem that gard to me!
back later!

[Taurusa]

Hi All... thought it is time to join your little group!! Just snuck into this group as my little one Caleb was born on the 30th april 1 week early!

I hope to get on here and get to know you all... not too familiar with many of you, but i am sure that will change

[bellelass]

Janine- I give Lila a dummy even though I swore up and down no child of mine would have one. I think for her its the comfort thing, and she can't comfort feed from a bottle (well not really, but she does a little) and I can not can not have her on my breast. The few times she did comfort suck on my breast I sat for 3-5 hours grinding my teeth in pain. I think part of this whole parenting gig is not just doing what is 100% "the best" thing for baby, but striking a balance between good for baby/good for mummy and daddy. I mean, those balances are essential to every other relationship in life, why should this one be one sided?

BabyWrangler- My doctor was shocked I express and feed, too. Of course. Sure its time consuming, but like Nettie said I've gotten used to it, part of the routine. Would be nice not to sometimes.. Like I've had a few nights of frustration when I vowed to switch to formula, but it was the middle of the night and I had no choice but to express and feed. Then of course, everything is easier in the morning.

Sarah- That would be so hard, having DH away. You're so brave and strong. Don't know how to help you about the cuddling to sleep, I've been doing that too.

Sharon- Its ok. I saw your oldest son is 19, I was there (and a jerk) recently myself. Not trying to pry or anything, just help out a bit- is he depressed? It seems like a lot of kids in late teens/early 20's are massively depressed and don't do much with their lives because there are too many options/because of fear of failure... I was like that and so was pretty much everyone I knew. The other one I've seen a fair bit of is that things are cushy and easy at home so why would they leave? I had a friend's mother who realized she was making life too easy for her ne'er do well son so she started charging him rent and utilities and for food, and he had to do his OWN laundry etc.. Anyway know its off topic but just thought I'd put that out there...

Bah. Lila's back to never sleeping. Its like she has three days of never ever sleeping and then one day where all she does is sleep. Its hard on mum- when she's growly and needing attention I don't get any housework done, and when she's sleeping all day I greedily stay in bed getting as much sleep as possible for myself. I just don't know. I love love love my Lila but I hate parenting a baby. Except the baby smell. and the cuddles. and the little smiles. and the way she looks round for me. All of that compensates a bit i suppose.

[Katstribe]

Hi everyone

I figure its time i joined here. I know prob half of you from april 16-30th thread and look forward to getting to know the rest of you. My bub was due 28th April but she decided life on the inside was pretty cosy! So she stayed there until 12th May and nearly drove her mum insane waiting . So i know that really makes her a may bub and i will prob go introduce myself there too but as i went through my PG with half of you lovely ladies i would love to be in this group with you all!

So i look forward to making new friendships and catching up with all of you that i know.

Sharon what happened with DS living away from home? Did that not work out? Please don't beat yourself up you are not a useless mother at all, its just everything seems to go sour at the one time which is why we feel this way! You will get through it hun. I know exactly how you feel with eldest DS, ours likes to take the easy road too! If i find a miracle cure for it i promise i will share it with you

Sarah hun you sound like life is pushing your buttons a bit too! Hang in there, this first few months after having new bub are the hardest on our emotions. Definately do get DH involved more when he gets home, sometimes it just doesnt matter if they dont do it as good or fast as us, if it pains you too much to watch him just leave the room, because we need to accept any help offered at times.

Hi to everyone else and i look forward getting to know you all.

My little Molly is doing well, she is BF beautifully and is the ONLY bub out of all 7 of mine to NOT destroy my nipples in the first week! So BF has literally been a breeze and pleasure from day 1 this time round! She is sleeping well and generally only wakes once during the night for a feed and has had a couple of 7 hr nights already...

Ok well i have to go wash girls hair now so i will pop in again soon.