Babies Born April 2008 #3

[Trillian]

This thread is for parents who's baby was born in April 2008

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MistyFying

There are many issues that you will encounter as a new parent. We have put together this list of useful articles and threads in order to assist you with some common questions or issues you may have, and to provide you with bit of extra support that we all need as new parents:

Feeding Support:

Breastfeeding General Chatter
Breastfeeding FAQ's
Is My Baby Hungry?
Bottlefeeding FAQ's and Useful Information
Is Feeding Your Baby Taking Too Much Time?
Bottlefeeding General Chatter
Feeding Your Baby
Lactose Intolerance
Starting Solids/Homemade Baby Food
Starting Solids - When Is My Baby Ready?
Starting Solids General Chatter

Please contact the Australian Breastfeeding Association (ABA) or a Lactation Consultant if you are concerned that you may have breastfeeding and/or supply problems, and before the introduction of solids.

Sleeping Support:

Comforted Sleeping & Sleep Issues Forum
Comforting Tools to Aid Restful Sleep
Babies & Sleep
Controlled Crying/Comforting/Sleep Training
The Con of Controlled Crying
The Crying Game
15 Ways To Help Your Baby Sleep

Other Useful Information & Recommended Reading:

Baby Massage
Cuddle Me Mum
Infant-led Feeding & Weaning
Baby Wearing
Recommended Reading List

Got questions?

Post your questions in the forums mentioned above, or in the following forums where you're sure to receive many friendly responses!

General Baby & Toddler Forum
Breastfeeding, Bottlefeeding and Solids
Gentle Parenting Forum


Your previous thread can be found here https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...-2008-3-a.html

[Fire]

Lucky first again!

I'm thinking Ci is fluxy, esp if I have dairy so I'm cutting it out again. It wasn't easy to do either, dairy and its derivatives are in bloody everything! But I got reflux the other night, the same night Ci kept fluxarooning also. Weird, cos I never get reflux unless I'm pregnant, so I think it was a signal for me to take note of. After icecream, dammit! So I'm giving him the slippery elm and he was calm then. I'll keep him on that if he fluxes up unless he shows signs of it becoming more profound. He is very unsettled after feeds though, it makes sense. Can't wait until this first 12 weeks are over (although I'm trying not to push time away, as DH reminds me, I still can't wait). He'll be more mature and sitting up, I'll be able to ditch the frontal sling (hurrah!) and go for a hip sling or an ergo for back slinging. Yessireebob. Bring it on.

Aside from waking for feeds, he sleeps so well though. I just realised that recently. Once he's asleep at night, we don't have to settle him again. So he feeds frequently but that's ok, I could have to settle him after each of those feeds which would be worse. Although I guess sleeping in my arms is a kind of settling, but I don't have to be awake for it, so I won't complain (for a while! ).

I found this interesting research paper for those who dig research (not that you'd know I dig it *sheepish*):
Journal of sleep research

The relationship between daytime exposure to light and night-time sleep in 6–12-week-old infants
This project investigated the relationship between exposure to light and 24-h patterns of sleep and crying in young, healthy, full-term babies living at home and following a normal domestic routine. Measures included an ankle worn activity monitor, an external light monitor and the Barr Baby Day Diary in which parents recorded periods of sleep, crying, feeding and other behaviours at 5-min intervals throughout the 24-h period. Fifty-six babies (26 males and 30 females) were monitored across three consecutive days at 6, 9 and 12 weeks of age. There was an early evening peak in crying which was associated with reduced sleep at 6 weeks. Across the trials there was a gradual shift towards a greater proportion of sleep occurring at night. Sleeping well at 6 weeks was a good indication of more night-time sleep at 9 and 12 weeks. Babies who slept well at night were exposed to significantly more light in the early afternoon period. These data suggest that light in the normal domestic setting influences the development of the circadian system.

It also talks about the "evening cries" etc.

[Sharon19270]

Good morning ladies

BW with Oliver's Zantac this morning I tried your method of giving him bottle, then removing and while he was still sucking I squirted in the Zantac, it worked a treat, thank you, he then went on to have 140ml of his bottle

Today is family day around here, not sure what we are going to do but I think Jordan wants to go to putt-putt golf, might be a bit tricky with oliver, but if I put him in his baby bjorn and use a longer putter I should be ok, and I will make sure DH doesn't record ALL strokes Oliver slept from 10.30 (sneaky feed) through till 5am which I am happy with, he then went back to sleep till 8.30am so all up last night I have had about 7-8 hours of sleep, 5 of it was unbroken it will be nice when he starts to sleep through till 6am as that will be about the time I would need to get up on a weekday to start getting ready for school drop off.

Have a great day everyone, BBL tonight.

[BabyWrangler]

Sharon I'm so glad that worked! I hate the way BJ reacts to the Zantac but it works, and if it makes him feel better then thats all that counts!
Poor Bj has been mucked up a little the past 24 hours because I had broccoli on friday night...it was a stupid test because he was doing so well with everything, we wondered if the reflux was causing his colic (because he was crying and gulping so much when it was playing up), turns out that no, it was the broccoli (I eat alot of vegies because I don't like meat too much, so I eat STACKS of vegies, and one of my favs is broccoli).
Oh well, we know now, back to zucchini, beans, corn, carrot, potato and pumpkin!

[Katstribe]

Afternoon everyone

Sharon just wanted to say the pics of Oliver are gorgeous I really love the one where he is pulling the face!!!!

Shelley bugger about the broccoli, like you i love my vegies, give me a plate of veg over meat any day! The things we are willing to go without for our babes......

Netti i love your real name..... our eldest DD name is Toni.

Fire that is massive to have to cut out all dairy! As for the icecream that would be the hardest for me! That and custard cause i am a sucker for a bowl of icecream n custard....

Well Molly had a good night last night, fed at 9pm in bed before 11pm which is the time i went to bed. Then up just after 4am and then coslept with me till 8am. So praying for two in a row now. She has a CHN appoint on wed so cant wait to see what she weighs.

[BabyWrangler]

Aah Kat tell me about it!!
Still, if I kept eating it, we'd all go insane...BJ has been at the point tonight (twice) where he's cried til he wasn't making any noise, or breathing in, had to blow in his face to make him breathe...poor little man..
I've made the executive decision that I'm sleeping in the spare room tonight, DH has to work tomorrow and its not fair that he be up all night with BJ too...clearly I'm going to be!

Hows little Miss Molly going Kat? I hope she's being an angel for you...Bj had been, til I upset the apple cart!
Anyone know how long things stay in your breast milk? (eg, I had the broccoli on Friday...will my milk be ok for him now and its just a case of waiting for it to get out of HIS system, or is it still in my milk too)
Also, started drinking aktavite yesterday, then it clicked that its chocolate flavoured and therefore could also be contributing...anyone else had issues?
Milo has been fine for us....

[Taurusa]

Caleb is feeling a little better today, after keeping us both up all night. Sleep will return to us one day won't it?????????????????????

[mgm]

Sharon excuse my technological ineptitude, but how do i view your album? i looked at y our profile but couldn't see anything there.

fire that link sounds interesting but it doesn't seem to work for me.

dd had tiny bit of blood (light red) in nappy tonight, has anyone else had this? it happened once before and i had lengthy conversations with mch hotline and a gp relative - conclusion was that it wasn't anything to worry about. still, i'm not too happy to see it again... she seems perfectly happy and healthy otherwise.

[Sharon19270]

Sharon excuse my technological ineptitude, but how do i view your album? i looked at y our profile but couldn't see anything there.

I posted the link in the other thread but here are the individual links:

https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...36&ppuser=5397
https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...37&ppuser=5397
https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...38&ppuser=5397


Or you can go to galleries, members galleries and search my name (i think that's how it's done now).

[Butterfly_Princess]

Isabell has been a total angel for me today!! Perfectly spaced feeding, perfect amount of sleep, and was such a happy baby when she was awake!! And, she is now asleep, way before her bedtime!! IM hoping this doesnt mean she will be up wide awake in the early hours though, but if it does then so be it lol. She slept from about 9:30pm last night til 4:30am this morning, was awesome!!

[alittlegrubi]

I've been MIA for a couple of days and a new thread starts so I'm not going to try to respond to all those posts that have passed.

Sarah, Danielle, Beatrix, Kat and all those other mums that have more than one little one under 4 to deal with - I take my hat off to all of you. I am ready to pack my bags and leave the kids behind with DH. I don't know how you all do it being a fulltime mum with toddlers and a baby - I want to kill DS more times than not. I'm struggling with keeping my sanity with the sleep deprivation and the crying etc.

Danielle I especially think that you are doing an amazing job with a c-section and still doing all hte housework - I've only just started mopping, dishes and washing last week and the pain is coming back.

Had BILs 40th last night and picked up DS because he was running around the restaurant and needed to calm him down - well am I paying for it today.

I've had a yellowish discharge for the past two days and do not know if I should start to worry yet. Have my check up on Thursday - so thinking I 'll just wait until then, unless I notice anything more with it.

Went to naturopath last week and she told me to cut out dairy - for own health not the babies.My lymohatics are conjested, but I am living on iced coffee and Affogato and chocolate - so it is going to be hard.

Greer is doing really well, getting bigger, more alert time. Really need to develop some better settling techniques though or I'll have her permanently attached to the boob I think.

Fire - still not doing too well at the Aware Parenting . really must spend that money and buy those books, been too busy listing on ebay to buy much. Not that I've made any money from it, but the clutter is going.

Baby Wrangler - since they suggest you have wine straight after a feed I would think things only stay in your milk for a few hours.

Time to get everyone to sleep, Greer is figgiting so that's it from me tonight

[Sharon19270]

BW broccoli is one of my fave vegies too, although my all time fave has to be cauliflower. I'm not much of a 'red' meat eater, but do enjoy chicken. Can't help you on the breast milk problem, but I thought I heard/read somewhere that it was generally for 1 feed only, don't hold me to it though as i'm no expert, since I have never successfully BF any of my boys LOL
Kat thanks re the photo's my friend and I where almost wetting ourselves when we saw that one. Good luck with the CHN on Wednesday.
Taurusa I have to let you know that yes sleep will return to you one day, but then during the toddler years it may be taken from you yet again, especially when they transfer to a 'big bed' and discover they can get out and wander around LOL
mgm can't help you with your DD problem of blood in her nappy, but hope you get answers soon, I know they say that a baby girl can bleed from her vagina shortly after birth because of mummies hormones (or something like that) but didn't think that would happen this far after birth.
Meg glad to hear that Isabelle was an angel for you today, Oliver didn't sleep as much as he usually does today as we where out for a fair bit, but he was generally a happy chappy.

Have my 6 week check up tomorrow, and my Dr is also going to see if she can get my Paediatrician to see Oliver tomorrow too, just to get his reflux checked. Better go, time for Oliver's sneaky feed.

[Katstribe]

MGM the only thing i can suggest is what Sharon said and that it can happen to girl bubbas due to hormonal changes in us which transfers to them. Although like Sharon i am not sure how long that can happen. It has only ever happened twice with my girls (have 5 of them now) and that was within the first week or maybe two weeks. I would prob ring the help line again and just ask if it could still be the hormones or not. Good luck.

Grubi i really think it depends on the temperment of the toddler as to how well one copes. Although everyone i know just reckons i have very well behaved kids, but i don't find i have any dramas with Mitchie. He does get a little sooky at times but its usually just cause he needs a sleep. He doesnt seem to be acting up with Molly here at all which is good, but i have made a point of letting him have kisses and cuddles with her whenever she is out of bed, which is soo cute, he will come up and put his hands out to her and says mwah! So i hold her towards him and he give her a quick cuddle and a couple of kisses and then off he goes so i can feed or change her or whatever. Then when he sees i am free he will come up for his time with me, so i guess he is just a really placid happy go lucky toddler. In saying that i still have days where i too would like to pack my bags and run for the hills! I think its just normal but i do have older kids who can be of some assistance (well sometimes when they are not bickering amongst themselves). As for sanity......... who said i was sane????????? I am a complete nut!!!!!!!!
Oh and as for coping with two bubs after a c-sec it is only natural you feel this way! I know for me after i had Mitchie i jsut couldnt find any routine and i think the first 6mths just went in a blur to be honest. I kept hurting myself as i would do too much but like hello who else is gonna do these things when our DH have to go back to work. So i truly feel for you and all others who are struggling after their c-secs. Thats why i was determined not to have a 3rd c-sec with Molly, cause i just couldnt cope.

Sharon good luck with your 6wk checkup tomorrow, and i hope they can get Oliver into the paed too. Oh and i am sooo jealous of Oliver's hair too. It is absolutely gorgeous, i wish Molly had more hair.

Mummymeg sounds like you have a very good bubba there, well done.

Shelley yeah i think i would give it up to with it having that bad an effect on BJ. Its def not worth it. As for how long things stay in your milk, to be honest i have no idea! Thats a really bad admission for someone who has BF all her bubbas isnt it! But i seriously don't know as i have never had any dramas with anything going through my milk. I guess a few times i noticed things would make diff bubs more windy so i would just eat smaller amounts but never got into the nitty gritty of how long it stays in BM for. Maybe speak to the ABA i guess they would know all that info. Good luck and sorry i not much help. Hopefully Bj will settle then. Good luck tonight i hope its not too bad for you. Molly is doing really welland is mostly an angel but sometimes like to be awake after a feed in the middle of the night, i am hoping that tonight will be another good night for us as she seems pretty settled at teh moment.

In saying that i have just realised the time so i am off to bed or i wont get to enjoy the hours she is asleep for!

[Fire]

MGM, due to my milk problems, I learned about too much lactose in the colon can cause bleeding. It is like a kind of lactose intolerance because they only make a certain amount of lactase (enzyme for digesting lactose), and if you have a high fore-milk content, they get more than they can digest and the left over behaves like a baby who has no lactase - lactose intolerance. Therefore they can get the same symptoms as a lactose intolerant baby. You'll probably know if you have high foremilk content, and this far into feeding, it's probably not the issue although it can stretch this far before milk establishes (gawd knows mine did!). Allergies can also cause bowel bleeding. But my advice is the advice I took which is enrich the fat content of your milk - fish oils, EPO, coconut oil/milk, take lots of them! If you express, you'll notice after a while that the fatty lining on the top becomes thicker - better for babes. I do it still, even though it's rebalanced and will continue to because the DHAs are so good for brain development (and for my bod too). You can get really serious if it is an imbalance and block feed? But it's probably something worth checking with a doc really.

BW, they say to wait a week to see if symptoms pass, but different foods take different amounts of time to clear from teh breast milk. Technically, the breast milk is made fresh each feed, that's why you can have certain things at a certain time from feeding and it be ok. What happens is some foods/drinks take longer to clear from your system, and can therefore still get into the newly made milk. But I'd say broccoli would be ok the following day, but I'm guessing.

YAY Meg, lucky gal.

Grubi, I'd say don't worry about the book. Check out her website, the articles pretty much have the same info: Aware Parenting
And these are the articles Articles by Aletha Solter, take a look at the list, find the ones on "crying", different titles but with the same crying theme.

Well, I just read a book that told me to drink red wine or dark beer for good milk. The red puts resveratrol into it and the beer creates high supply. Woot. This is out of a book that discusses toxins in breast milk and how to create the perfect milk. So if they say it, it must be true.

*whistles*

*nonchalantly picks lint from shirt*

Gotta geeeewwwwww, bbl (that looks like I just blew you all a raspberry. heh)

[sarah_dobbo2]

Grubi: Oh, Grubi I feel for you. Again I am likt Kat and have DD who is a GOD sent at times just to even hold Wyatt while I deal with Landon. Everyone comments on how well behaved my children are, but when they get home they turn into little ALIENS...
It was hard at first, 'cos Wyatt would wake up abour 6-7 stay awake for an hr then want to go back to bed, so Landon had to be little quit, or I took him up to his room to play with toys. Lucky for me, Landon has found the TV. So I wack playschool on, and try and put Wyatt down then it's my time with him. And I tried to explain that to him, "the fast mummy get's Wyatt to sleep the faster we can do something like cooking, colouring or playdo". He understand he needs to be a little less loud in morning.

Well DD is on school holidays, wonderful. So my routine is going to go out window with Landon 'cos he want to play with her, then she will have to go back to school then start all over again.

Wyatt was little S**T last night, and I could have thrown him across room. he just wouldn't go to sleep until like 10pm last night, he was just crying too. his normal bedtime is 7:30-8pm.

anyway the little monster is awake so i had better go.

sorry for lack of personals

hi too all.

cheers
Sarah

[Nettie]

Liam had a good playtime last night (must have been at least 40 mins) then slept for more than 5 hours! We fed him, then he slept another 4, but now he seems back on the 3 hour routine! Not sure what we did to get the long sleep - or I'd do it again!

Can't stay - have to go and express for his next feed.

Fire - I have an irish friend who's been telling me to have a stout (Guinness) to help with milk... might have to go & get some!

Seeya later...

[Beatrix]

Grubi- umm i have 3 under 4!!! lol i must be nuts. Since DH left though in the last week Teleah has been so good! And i have my own routine. things are getting done and its much calmer then when he was here cause i know i have to do things, i dont expect if of anyone else therefor it gets done and Im happy to do it IYKWIM

Mj had a cr@ppy night last night but it was the first one in a while. other then that, Im doing ok. Its a bit hard t do the small things like get milk etc with all 3 kids but i will get used to it.

[Fire]

Nettie, after I quit BFing my first, I wanted to start up again about a month later due to allergies to the formula (and mama guilt). My doc told me about guinness then, too, and I was drinking a large bottle a day! Hey, did you mean he slept 9 hours with one feed in the middle last night and then today is back to three hours b/w? Cos that would be good, wouldn't it? Or did I misunderstand your post?

Or it could be related to the fact that around about now babies start to distinguish night from day, and instead of some babies' night sleeps being when they coincidentally have their longest sleep, it becomes a physical intention due to the melatonin building. Not much melatonin yet, but it is building. DS has his "lucky" sleep sometime between 8 and 2, for about four or five hours usually. That was luck. Although better luck would have been one of those babies that has that sleep between midnight and dawn! Now I'm hoping the circadian rythmn will kick in and he starts to shift that forward a few hours. With DD, she had her lucky sleep in the afternoon! I couldn't get her to feed, it was tough going until the two month mark when she slowly started to shorten that and lengthen the night sleep.