Evil MiL, Anne! I'm in shock about that. As for labour, I'm now starting to feel really, really bad about mine. Well, have been for a few weeks now. The drugs, the intervention... why wasn't it like all the other happy labours? I want another go at it to prove I can do it "right". I'm so angry for having those drugs and for accepting that they "wouldn't let" me do things... whose body is it anyway?
Kel, wow at no poo for six days. I wish! DS still does giant blow-outs every morning, but just wee-wee last night. DH laughs at the giant poo, I have to force him to start changing nappies!
I'm glad other babies are feeding non-stop: DS will have both sides every hour if he could, sometimes he's asleep. The HV told me that DS will have to start on solids at 4m, as early as possible, because he's such a piggy-wiggy. I think not, I'm still annoyed about that advice and am quite glad we've been discharged now. Even DH has been told it is stupid advice and he agrees. I've been brainwashing him with anti-weaning and pro-BFing things, but just having everyone say how much DS has grown in a week at Church this morning helped a lot.
Kirsten, DS is actually better behaved when Daddy isn't around. As in, he gets cranky at night-time some nights. But in the morning he wakes up with a smile (oooh, going to do that on the website now), he is calm and quiet for Church/coffee mornings (so all the ladies love him), he plays nicely all afternoon, unless he's bored of his Tummy Time, then Daddy comes home and it's just non-stop. But he's quiet happy at weekends in the day, luckily Daddy is out for most of them too.
Hi everyone else, we're just plodding on here; I'm getting jealous of all the sleep-through babies!
Hi
No poo for a week is scary!!! I dont want to think about what it is going to be like when it happens!!! Especially if it goes on for the three weeks that can be normal?!! LUCKILY we have paederctian appointment on Tuesday so I will be able to find out about the real deal not what the books are saying. I think maybe she is getting a little uncomfortable or maybe I am imagining it.... she had a beauty spew today so i'm thinking she is running out of room in that body of hers.
I know exactly what you mean Ryn about your labour... I feel exactly the same way, I was told things in the middle of contractions that made me think I needed drugs, i had them all, I keep thinking of extra things I didnt want that i ended up having that I had forgotten about too!
"having" to have a c-section is going to play on my mind forever, i thought the fact the cord ended up around her neck twice meant that the c-section may have saved her life so that made it all ok... but occasionally i get people saying "only twice around her neck" and tell me they have heard of babies being delivered with cord round neck fine.... but then I remember that in our situation we didnt know that was what the problem was and we just knew she was in distress.... i have not read your birth story (i had a little look today and couldnt see one there... is it in the birth story place?) BUT it sounds like you did what you needed to do in your situation at the time to get a baby that was alive... didnt it take a while for him to work out the breathing thing?? there are so many what ifs you just have to be thankful for your healthy little boy and just imagine the bad what ifs at the same time you are thinking of the what ifs that make you wonder if the drugs were the right thing to do...
All medical people have different opinions... ie every midwife had a different way to do everything when I was in hospital... you just have to take it all in and decide what is best for your baby... and that is what you would have done and what DH did too, remember he was there and it is his baby too so whatever he decided on your behalf he must have thought was necessary as he would have DEFINATELY known your opinion on drugs and being cut and what not....
Jemima doesnt play up for anyone in particular, when Daddy leaves for work he gets lots of big big smiles, when he gets home we can be in the middle of witching hour when we are unsettled but never for long.
Oh Ryn, have you tried playing Liebling music when he is sleeping?? or getting to sleep?? we bought the peacebaby cd and think it may be calming, maybe it signals to her we are not going to be doing anything exciting until daytime?? and to just relax and chill out?? we dont rock her to sleep she often just falls asleep and we put her in her bed... we hear her awake in her bed all the time through the night but she doesnt make any noises at all, sometimes we can tell she is hungry and sucking her fingers but she doesnt call for me. i just wait until she does (she doesnt cry she just kinda calls out.....)
Last night was so funny she was almost resting her legs on the edge of the bassinette just kicking her legs about.... she is a squirmy worm!
I just won a baby bjorn on ebay!!! so excited will be heaps better than the dodgy pouch i have at the moment... Benji is going to pick it up for me on Tuesday.
AND I won a highchair too - shabby chic painted red with a cat on it... very cute only $15 so that will suit my house heaps and if it doesnt suit jemima we will just sell it again.
Last edited by smylie; April 8th, 2007 at 11:08 PM.
Kelly, my birth story, written just after the birth, is here, at the end of my pregnancy diary. I was OK with it then, but I keep second-guessing and questioning myself, especially because I know with hindsight that without monitoring I wouldn't have even needed any "help" with my contractions. As you say, you do what you have to in order to save your child's life, but it doesn't make it better in the long run.
I do have various lullabies I sing to DS, he won't go to sleep to the lullaby machine we have and he has only ONCE settled in his cot awake and gone to sleep. Sometimes he's OK to lie there, but usually he starts screaming to be let out, but that's because when he's on his back his reflux can cause pain, so I don't mind picking him up... well, I do, because my back usually hurts at this point, but it's what's needed. He's usually OK co-sleeping and getting off, but then he's in my (dead) arms all the time then. Can't wait for him to sleep through and I won't need to co-sleep then!
Hi girls,,,
Can only be quick,, reorganising my christening arrangements again due to family needs, wants etc ggrrr,,,,, wish it was just over and done with already!!
But, Kel,,, Griffen is doing the same thing,,,, in the last 9 days,, he has only done 1 poo!!!! I tell you,, I have been freaking a bit about it,, as he WAS doing poos several times a day,, and has just changed all of a sudden, I took him to the doctors and asked while i was there,, he felt his tummy, and didnt say a thing about it,,, so he must not be to worried.
The one pooh he did do in this time,, was HUGE, but still quite runny, a litle thicker that the normal,, but still, quick liquidy,, so he is not constipated.
He does however have the windiest little bottom around ,,, He is fluffing heaps all the time,, and gets tummy pain from it,, pulling his legs up and upset etc etc,,,,,the worst though is the smell,,,,,,,eewwwwwwwww
It is just horrid!!.
So I have graduated him from his baby bath which has a molded seat thing in it which i HATE,, and he is in the family bathtub now for baths,, which he absolutely LOVES,,, his little legs go mad when he is in it,, and he just relaxes so much better, opening his hands to feel the water etc now,, where in the babybath, he held them tightly closed and on his chest.
I got Griffen weighed a week ago, and he was 5.06kg, 58cm in length then, and a HC of 40.3, The ECN said he was in the 90% percentile bracket for actual growth (tall boy just like dad), but his weight was in the 50% percentile,, so he is a skinny boy for his height,,, but that can all change so suddenly as you probably have all discovered lol. So he is doing really well, and putting on 295grams a week,, so looooooving his booby feeds
He is also outgrowing his 000 bonds growsuits,, which say they can fit 6kg babies of 63cm?????? what a load of garbage,,,,, i cant do the top button up without pushing on his chest a bit too much for my liking,, and his feet are at their limit too.... I have found their suits to be on the smallest fitting for their sizes though that i have found of any clothing. Other 000's fit him well with heaps of room though.
I went though some of the old clothes i had stored from my other boys,, and found one item i though i had lost,,,, a ford racing romper,, super thick,, made to look just like the racing overalls the actual drivers wear lol, a size 0 though,, so i think it might be too big for him to wear this winter unless he has a monster growth spurt lol
anyway,, after i get of these arrangements sorted out, i will get back on and do personals,,,, etc
Love Lil
Last edited by Lil_Aussie; April 9th, 2007 at 10:30 AM.
Good to hear all the bubs are doing well. Erin put on 300grams last week so that was nice to know the breastfeeding is doing what it is supposed to. She has the longest legs so her sleep suits fit her great in length but are really baggy everywhere else.
She is sleeping fantastic during the day she goes down straight away but at night she won't normally go to sleep till 10.30pm - 11pm and is quite restless. I gave her a dummy for the first time as I had just fed her and she started crying again. It kept her relaxed for about an hour.
Last night she was still awake at 12am good thing when she everntually went to sleep at about 12.40 she sleept till 7am .It is so frustrating isn't it when you know that she is fed, clean nappy and was warm enough and she is still unhappy. I guess thats babies for you.
Well girls take care and will do personals once I have caught up on everyones news.
Love kristy
Last edited by Kristy D; April 9th, 2007 at 02:23 PM.
does anyone know, with the "dream feed", where you feed bubs while they are asleep (i don't know if i like that idea anyway, although my bub often falls asleep during a feed), are you supposed to still burp them, or put them to bed unburped? often bub will fall finally fall asleep on my boob, but then i wake him up while i'm burping him, so starting the whole cycle again. but if i put him to bed without burping, he ends up waking up with wind pain.
can't believe how quick cam is growing out of clothes. thankfully i've hardly had to buy anything - been so lucky with friends lending me stuff. he's in 00 now, but won't be for much longer. he was only in 0000 for about 2 weeks. glad i hadn't bought heaps of stuff.
DH bought a good as new peg perego prima papa hi chair for $30-, it reclines and is great. we sit Cam in it at meal times, so he's included with the family! he just gives us dirty looks, like "where's my food??!"
i've banned mil from the house, until she apologises - which will be never. i'm just sick of the negativity - i've put up with it, for the sake of DH & DS, but for her to be disappointed with our beautiful new bubba is just too much.
i've set my website up, thanks to kelly's instructions. i'm feeling very clever! if anyone wants to have a look, its: http://aflanagan5.photosite.com/album1/
and the password is cameron.
still trying to catch up on everyone's news/birth stories. hope you all had a lovely easter,
Hey Anne, if Jemima falls asleep while feeding I let her stay asleep, in fact if she feeds and doesnt seem bothered I dont burp her at all.... I read somewhere recently that all the baby needs is the chance to burp... so to give bub 3 mins and if nothing happens leave it be.... Jemima needs a little more sometimes but you can tell something is there so I keep trying... I dont wake her up for anything!! (although benji talked me into waking her tonight to put her into a better nappy for bed.... he is a clever cookie)
Lil_aussie i AM SO GLAD Jemima isnt the only one saving a beauty poo!!!!
She is smelly too! I want to try the big bath, but it is really low and deep so will try that tomorrow night but i've seen babies kick around in the big bath and know they have a great time so maybe later this week....
Gotta go I think benji worked out how to play our home movie of jemima's first "letter" (she says O) on the tv... (she gets it from when benji sings old macdonald E, I, E, I O, she knows the O!!!)
Oh Anne, your boys are gorgeous!!! You must be one proud Mamma!!!
Thanks so much for sharing your pics.
To all you girls with big gaining babies... I am soooo jealous!!! Harry only gained 70g in 6 days last week... he needs to be re weighed tomorrow... we have regular visits to the ECHN, once a week actually... Harry is definitely out of his 00000 clothes, and most of his 0000, but some 000 are way too big for him... the only thing that stops him from wearing his smaller clothes are his feet and his height.
Great to see there are so many beautiful, healthy bubbas in here... these Feb bubbas ROCK!!!
I hope you all had a great Easter!
thanks lisa - i am very proud of my boys - couldn't be happier! my bubba has gained heaps of weight, but i think that's because the nurses scared me when he had jaundice, by saying that i had to keep waking him to feed him, and not just letting him go to sleep - so i've kept doing that, when he probably doesn't need so much. good luck for harrison's weigh-in tomorrow - i'm sure he'll be fine - he certainly looks very healthy and lovely.
kel: my bub has been in the big bath for a couple of weeks now, but i cheat!! my 14year old hops in with him (in his board shorts so that i can be in the room too!). they have a bath together, and both love it, and it saves my back and knees. i found the baby bath was too small - he'd push off with his feet, and whack his head into the other end!
bub is sleeping in his cot for first time tonight (providing i can cope with not having him next to me!!) - so keep your fingers crossed for me that he'll sleep right through he napped in it today really well - longer than normal, so maybe the bassinette was too small for him?
Hey Ryn
I finally got around to reading your birth story.... you went through heaps! Sounds like everything happened because it had to... Liebling really didnt want to come out... you are lucky they didnt give you a c-section, at least you got to experience some birthcanal action! I am jealous of the ladies who got a vaginal birth! You said "As you say, you do what you have to in order to save your child's life, but it doesn't make it better in the long run." I think it does make it better... what IF Liebling hadnt made it any further than the middle of the birth canal?? what if he didnt' make it??? in the long run you have to be just grateful you got to take your baby home...??
I understand how you beat yourself up about it as you so so so wahted a natural birth, and I was so sorry to hear you didnt get it, but looking at the photos of your little boy you have been truley blessed!
You have to move on and hope for better next time... at least you have more of an idea of what to expect and maybe what to expect from your body.... you are not going to be doing Liebling any favours by being upset inside about how he came into the world...
I beat myself up lots thinking I cheated and I was cheating by the c-section, definately doesnt feel like an easy way out, I still hurt heaps inside when I do different things I have friends and 9 months later still hurt and an aunty 5 years later still numb in some spots!
So you just have to look at your baby and think about what a miracle he is and that you made him and now you get to raise him into a unique and special person, the labour/birth is just one day (or in your case a week of prelabour hell!) in the grand scheme of things and that you were very strong throughout it all and did what you had to do to be a good Mum from the start and give your little boy what he needed to be born.
Ryn and Smylie, I can relate to both of you about your feelings about your birth experiences. I too have struggled with my birth experience - even though we have our delightful and beautiful babies, it can be difficult to accept or deal with the birth experience we faced. I haven't made my experience public for various reasons including my pain, fear of being judged and a few others. I too feel cheated by what I experienced and, as much as I try not to, do harbour some resentment towards the staff at the hospital. Not so much for WHAT happened but HOW it happened. My ob knows full well I was open to a c-sect but the way in which I was TOLD and how things were handled was appalling and a major contributor towards me going into shock which saw the anethetist dose me up on sedatives immediately after Abbey was wheeled from theatre in an effort to reduce my trauma... except it made my trauma worse! I am not happy I lost over 2 hours of the day my little girl was born! But anyway, girls, I CAN relate to how you're feeling. I can't offer too much advice other than what is working for me... focusing on the good bits like my baby and I are both alive, my baby and I are healthy (ok, she is, I'm still dealing with bits and pieces!), I can have more babies, next time I will be better prepared for the potential of what happened happening again and better equipped to deal with it, I have received an apology from my Ob. If you are struggling to deal with your own experiences, I highly recommend debriefing with someone. I have debriefed with my MCHN and a couple of friends (some nurses) and it helped a lot. I have also been working on writing my experience down. I have also used my experience as a learning experience - how NOT to act as a nurse! ROFL.
Kristy, great to hear you're doing well hon. I can relate to the long legs - Abbey seems to be out grwing stuff in leg length before anything else! And her feet! My goodness they are huge!!!!
anne - good luck for tonight hon - maybe do the reverse of what we do for bubs and pop whatever they wore today under your pillow tonight?
Lil - those bonds wondersuits are small aren't they? I don't understand that claim on length and weight either... it's a shame because i love abbey in them and hers no longer fit! ROFL. I'm so glad you're doing well too hon. I have a question for yo but it is a tad personal so might have to email you
Hope everyone is well. Abbey is calling so had better go...
Hindsight is a wonderful thing! If I had known when I got to the hospital at 9.30am that at 4pm I would give in to an epidural and at 7pm I would be told I was having a c-section I would have just got the epidural at 10am and got them to chop me up then and there, and get my Saturday back and maybe even a bit of sleep! I didnt get out of recovery for ages due to my blood pressure and temp and then I got no sleep all night then I had one hours sleep I think and then visitors until Jem was about 4 weeks... then I had a nap (and got woken up because of a visitor!)
The only way I am coping with my birth experience is by looking at Jem and trying NOT to imagine what if...
OK, I have to tell you all something: babies with mustaches are gorgeous. Addams Family Values was on TV last night, just for long enough for me to recall that Pubert is the cutest baby ever... so guess who grabbed her old eye-liner pencil for Liebling this morning? Babies with mustaches rock! (Let me know if you want to see the pics - Liebling is cuter than Pubert.)
Anne, glad that DS isn't the only one in 00 - he was in 0000 for just over 2 weeks too, but has only been in 00 a week now. So glad we had some in ready, just can't believe I am going to have to buy some 0-size trousers and vests today (well, he'll need them at some point, he won't stay 2ft tall forever).
Lil and Kel, I fear for your babies' poos. DS does just one giant one a day, with a smallish one before bedtime, and that's horrific enough. Maybe your breastmilk is "better" than mine though and produces less waste.
Right, he's awake and wanting me, hi and waves to everyone else, I'll come back later if I can!
WE HAVE POO!!!
Went to paedricitian 6 week check up today, and got to ask all about poo.
(Kirsten are you there, was thinking of you today)
Anyhow 10 days without a poo for breastfed babies is perfectly ok, he had never heard of 3 weeks
Jemima had not had a poo since saturday or sunday week before last so I think we were on 10 or 11.... so I was very worried about when and where it was coming....
IT WAS HUGE AND IT LOOKED LIKE THICK PUMPKIN SOUP (kinda creamy I saw one or two chunks of something dont know what, not going to think about it)
I am so glad we were at home it completly filled her nappy and came up onto her back and on her belly and in her jumpsuit.... I think it didnt go down legs though and I didnt cop it!
She didn't cry she just slowly let it out while I was feeding her... she is such a lovely baby doesnt cry for things I would cry about....
Also at the baby doc (I just cant spell paedercritian...??grr) she was 60cm long and weighed 5420grams. Which is heavy but then she has the "height" to get away with it.
Jemima was never in 0000 she was born and had baggy 000 she was too long at birth for 0000 she is too long and getting too tubby for 000 her feet have never fit in 000 all the jumpsuits have since we brought her home made her toes curl so i love the suits with no feet and she has to wear big socks problem there was she had newborn ankles but 3 month old feet so socks were always falling off, she fits 3 month socks good now that she has more meat on her legs.... she has been in 00 for a while perfect for her length some brands but baggy..... she is always going to fun to buy for I can tell! She is a tubby bubby if you ask me but doc says she wont be fat. Her feet were the same size at birth as Benji's were when he was born (his mum measured his on her middle finger and did the same for Jemima) and he is 6 foot 4 so who knows Jemima may be a model or a really nice person who gets things off high shelves for people!
I am now wondering if I have to wait another 10ish days for a poo or if they will be regular now???
Lil he said if I was worried and it didnt come soon to go to chemist and get some dispositries (??) and you put them up bub's bottom and the poo comes straight out... that sounds gross and messy but I would have tried it if nothing by Sunday I think.
Only today did I think she was starting to be a little uncomfortable so I think she knew today was the day... lots smellier too.....
Kel,,, Griffen let rip yesterday lol,,,, right as my best friends were comming over, and he was in his fisher price linkadoos vibrating rocker,,, so maybe the vibrations worked it out?? lol.
Anyway,, it was also like slightly thickish pumpkin soup,, no chunks or anything,,, but MASSES of it. He got it up to his boobs,, and down to his knees even in his huggies (although he is still in the newborn size though lol. through the suit, and all over his rocker,, so i had to soak the seat, at least it dried overnight on my clothes wire airer.
He is still tooting like mad though and the smell rivals my hubby lol.
Ryn - dont think for a minute hun that your milk is not as "good" as Kels or mine,,,,that is simply not true,, just look as how beautifully Samuel is growing hun!! he is gorgeous!!. Your milk is absolutely perfect for him!!
I think maybe the poos thing is just as individual as each baby is.
Anne - i took a peak at Cameron's site,, and he is an angel , looks like he has one proud big brother there too , you shouldnt worry about your MIL's opinion,, because in the scheme of things,, it means absolutely nothing,,, only your family matters, be proud of your sons,,,,,,, they mean everything afterall :hugs:
MG - I looked at your site too hun,, and Abbey is looking brilliant!! Her skin like griffens looks to have cleared up HEAPS,,, although she has more hair than him now lol,, most of his is gone,, especially on top lol.
*sigh* poor boy,, already hit with male pattern balding, and looks a bit like Friar Tuck lol
You can email me anytime about anything hun,, nothing is too personal, so just ask away
Well girls,,, still havent gotten anywhere with the christening arrangements,,,,, and to top it all off, we found out by our real estate today that the landlords are comming around the day before the christening to do an inspection etc,,,,, just what i needed NOT!!
Ok,,,, I best get off and try and get a little sleep before Griffen wakes up,,, he usually wakes around 1am,,, then again about 5am,,, so not too bad
Love Lil
Last edited by Lil_Aussie; April 10th, 2007 at 11:52 PM.
Thanks for thinking of me when Jem let her poo rip - I would have loved to see that! Quinn seems to do massive poos anyway and they almost always green, I am thinking I may eat too many veggies! I like to call them Ninja turtle poos
You people talk a lot - it's taken me a while just to read and catch up on what's going on.
To all the ladies who are having issues with their births, I don't understand what you had to go through or how you feel but you all make me feel incredibly lucky that I had a lovely birth. I don't think there is anything I can say that will make anyone feel any better, but you are all champions for doing what was best for your babies and yourselves at the time. There is so much pressure put on women these days to have their babies a certain way - to mother a certain way (especially with breastfeeding) and people are made to feel guilty if things don't work out the way they wanted them to. And everyone - even strangers on the street have an opinion on how you should raise your child! Which I find very offensive - I had a lady stop me on the street and tell me that I better be having another baby soon because you can't just have one! Quinn isn't even 10 weeks old yet!!!! Whose business is it anyway?
OK that's me off my soapbox now
Hope you are all really well - time for me to go Quinn wants to play and then it's off to the Chiro for us yippee!
I'm sorry, you girls just totally lost me over the Easter weekend! I'll read all the posts & catch up just as soon as I can!
Claudia & I had our 6 week check ups today. Claudia weighs in at a hefty 5.5kg & she's 55cm long. I nearly died! Jessica was only 5.2kg @ 11w!!! wowsers!
Also, he talked to me in length about contraception...... For those of you who are having a break from pregnancy (LOL), what are you all doing? I am thinking of going for the rod in my arm? What do you all think?
This is just a quicky as Bella's on my lap and won't go to sleep even though she's tired!
Jayne - I had the rod thingy for around 18 months and for the first 12 months it was fantastic. After that though, I got really depressed and DH told me to get it out, saying "he wanted the old me back". As soon as it was out, I was back to normal. It was really wierd. I just felt down and sad all the time towards the end. I've heard others who have had no problems whatsoever as well, so I think everyone's just different. The beauty of it is that if you do have a bad reaction, then once it's taken back out the symptoms go straight away, unlike the needle. Also, I put on a fair bit of weight too - could have been that I'd just hit 30, or it could be the rod. I did need to put the weight on, so it wasn't an issue for me.
For those who are unhappy or disappointed with the the birth of their babies, all I can say is that you did what you had to do at the time, all in the best interest for you and your baby. The most important thing is that both you and your bub are happy and healthy and you did what any good mother would do in that situation. My first daughter's birth was a bit of a horror (posterior bub, ventouse, 2nd degree tear and a lovely haemorroid to boot!), and at the time I wished it could have been better, but she's now 9 and is happy and healthy - more than I could ever ask for. I beat myself up about the b/f thing with both of my daughters too, but soon realised that doing that was not doing them (or myself) any good. I should just be grateful that she is happy, and thriving. Many women aren't so lucky as to give birth to a live, healthy baby (my SIL is an example) so I should be very thankful for how things are.
Again, no personals sorry!!! We went out today and bought some baby panadole ready for tomorrow's needles. I am so not looking forward to it. Will post afterwards, all going well!
,,, He is fluffing heaps all the time,, and gets tummy pain from it,, pulling his legs up and upset etc etc,,,,,the worst though is the smell,,,,,,,eewwwwwwwww
he napped in it today really well - longer than normal, so maybe the bassinette was too small for him?
, looks like he has one proud big brother there too 
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