Bath I agree Kailen makes his bed and Lockies and Wyatt's beds as well and he's only 6, Lockie also helps with cleaning the yard and room, was with Wyatt, so it's not unreasonable to expect Verity to help out with the up keep of her room. Also with the parents of those kids, my X friend the one that I had problems with spoke to her kids the same way and it annoyed the crap out of me, like last year at xmas with the tree she just let her 2 yr old take things off the tree and near on push it over, was not happy Jan as I was teaching Wyatt not to touch and she let her do what ever she wanted to do. Sorry my rant over now, but I agree you have to let the children know that you are serious when you say NO or don't touch and not to interupt (which my boys still do sometimes, but hey who's perfect ).

Rory I think your DH put it really well, well done to him.

Well Wyatt is not going to bad, he doesn't mind sitting on the toilet, he's just not done anything yet, but ah well, he had a little accident wee wise but as soon as he started he stopped just as quick and told me so he's got the idea that he should do it on the floor, just need to get him to do it in the loo. Should be to long before he gets it.

hugs xoxo