Jeepers! Everytime I get back on, its a madhouse!! So busy in here now!!
Welcome to Laurab and AllBoys!!! Welcome back Eli!
More boys eh. I am resigned to thinking I will be having nothing but girls on my side of the fence. Well at least I don't have to worry too much about getting peed in the eye hehe.
Btw for pics of my girls I have a blog- www.reeniescornerofthestar.blogspot.com
LauraB- Sorry to hear about PND. I was paranoid that I would get it after both my bubs, as I had some stressful times at home. Lucky for me I didn't. But about 3 months before I fell pregnant with Seraya I was on Lexapro. Found that helped ease my anxiousness and depression. Wanted to stop taking it because of baby and wanted to try therapy before I got dependant on drugs. Therapy helped me A LOT. But for everybody it is different. I understand that sometimes its more chemical, and sometimes it's just a matter of changing our perceptions, or sometimes its a bit of both. Either way, it can't be easy with a new baby to care for. So for you. If you ever need to vent, vent away. I know I have many times. It is nice to know, that even though we can't get together in person, we can jump on here and write our our frustrations, and that sooner or later, other mothers with similar aged bubs, read it and empathise.
I am the same age as you, and all of my friends except a few are party girls and single. I decided on the weekend to try and meet young mums in my area (Brisbane) and organise get togethers. I found mothers group up here was good, but the mothers were all a lot older then me, and I found it hard to relax with them. They were all very nice, but all they talked about were their kids. I don't want to offend anyone here, but I never want to be defined as just a house wife and mother. I like to discuss important world issues or even things that are happening locally. But these were the type of women, who live for their children. Which is lovely, but I like to strike a happy medium. So I have started a Facebook group for yummy mummys in Brisbane Hope it works out. Other then that, we are moving into a house in a few weeks and I will be hosting a playgroup there once a week. That way I can be in control of any threats to my toddlers allergies, and enjoy socialising in a more convenient and safe environment. Playgroup Australia is who I am going through.
On the poo front (moving right along ) Seraya poops every 2nd day like clock work. She is half Bfed and half formula fed. Simply because with a two year old and uni I just don't have the time to exclusively breast feed.
Seraya is a bit of a night owl like her parents. She generally sleeps 10-12 hours from midnight or 1-2am and onwards. Sleeps till lunchtime and then feeds, sleeps another few hours. Is awake around dinner time for a few hours until about 11-2am then goes to sleep for the long block. ALthough she is teething atm so her routine is a bit all over the shop.
Mel How is James going now that you have sourced the root of his fussiness? Hope you guys are doing better.
Andie Glad to hear Cam went well with the christening. So lovely that it was a nice day for you and your family. Would be nice to have something like that, a bit ceremonious. SInce after the wedding and birth(s) it seems we have to wait until our babies get married for anything exciting like that
Bec- Hope you guys are going well and Benji is better. How is BFing going?
Hello to the rest of the girls. Sorry I had to skim through as there was so much to catch up on! I am so busy atm. We are refurbishing our city apartment to sell it. Its kinda fun, doing up the kitchen and repainting etc. But its very time consuming to liase with all the tradesmen and meet them there and go back and forth and pick out tiles, and colours and light fittings. It is fun though. But very hard with toddler and baby.
Start Uni next week, which is exciting. Yet daunting with kiddies. My MIL volunteered to come over next week and babysit. I appreciate the offer, but I will die before I let her in my house. I know that sounds awful, but she will come in and re arrange furniture, do washing, and touch things she shouldn't. I have put quite an effort into building a small fort away from her and thats how I would like to keep it!
Laura my bub was born on MArch 31st too. at 1040 or was it 1041? I can't remember how bad is that? I was a bit preoccupied at the time as I had to have an emerg section too. But it all went well and we got the result we wanted. Laura you are doing a great job, sometimes we don't hear it enough and it is terrible when we feel socially isolated too and mummy guilt is awful. I had only been living in this town for about 3 months before I had my bub and I ended up being ion the city for 6 of those weeks. I am lucky it is a small town and there are alot of mums around my age with new bubs. Hang in there.
Reenie - wow sounds like you are really busy. Make sure you take time out for you
Mel- Bugger, hopefully things will look up soon. When do you go to tresillian?
Bec- How are things going?
Andie - glad the christening went well
Robo and everyone hi
We are doing ok here. Still unsettled but I tried mylanta over the weekend and there has been some slight improvement with day slepps and generally, not a miracle but enough that I have just started E on Zantac and we will see. we aren't 100% convinced it is reflux as he doesn't scream when lying flat but there are others - coughing and refluxing when lying flat - in bed, unhappy when feeding, vomits clear and curdish at times. Who really knows, but i hope it works as it is terrible seeing him unhappy.Not sleeping through but some nights I can get 6 hours other it is 4 with a 2 hour awake period at 2am! Still fully BF. We have been tempted to try formula just to see what happens but I don't think his unsettledness is hunger related.
Aghh what a shocker if a few days I've had! Sam has been waking every 1 1/2 - 3 hours over night the last few days..he just wants to eat.
He has also been really fussy at the breast...he wont feed when I am sitting up or when there is any noise or people in the room.The only time I can get him to eat is lying down in bed alone.He used to be such a good feeder so I don't understand it, and I don't know what to do.I can't just stay in the bed all day! Has anyone ever had anything like that happen?It has only been the past few days.
On top of that I really wasn't feeling the best yesterday,just really down.It seems that every time I take a few steps forward a few days later I take step back.I guess I can't expect it to get better right away.I'm just over it though..I want to feel myself again.
On the plus side I am feeling OK today, I had my hair done this morning and I have beautiful baby boy! I guess i have to think to myself that if I take 2 steps forward and only 1 step back then I am still getting better.
Mel - ear infections in both ears! how horrible! I'm lucky in that respect because Sam hasn't been sick at all.I'm always worried though...how do you tell?
Hayley/Reenie - I went to new mothers group for the first time last week.Only problem was that they were all so much older than me(not that that would bother me on its own). I found the whole thing very competitive,what pram the all had,schools they were thinking of sending the babies to...that sort of thing.When they asked me what school I thought I would send Sam to I just said " I haven't even thought of that, I don't even know if we will be living in the area by the time he starts school" They looked at me really funny then!!Gosh he is only 3 months old!!So Reenie - I totally agree with your experience of mothers group!Glad to hear that you overcame PND,It's good to hear that kind of thing,gives me hope.
Luey - 31st too!! Sam was born at 1:25pm so they are 15 minutes apart!!Thanks for your positive Comments.
I also just wanted to say thank you to you guys for making me feel so welcome here.i can already tell that I am going to make some great friends on BB.
LauraB- Yeh that sucks about mothers group. I had the same experience. Maybe you should consider something like yogababy? I am sure they would have something like that in Melbourne. I did that with India when she was a few months old. It is yoga with your baby. You meet other funky mums. And it is great for your body and mind. You can keep doing it for as old as bubs gets. First you can do actual exericises with them and then you can let them play with the other babies in the middle of the room while you enjoy the class. That might be fun for you and baby. As for feeding the little man, all I could suggest is that he may be feeling a little anxious. I know that Seraya feeds of my emotions really intensely. If I am anxious or upset she is too. Maybe you should consult a baby nurse or your GP?
Hope he sorts himself out.
CatherineMoses- Hope your little one settles for you in a nice long block of sleep. Seraya has the odd phase like that, but its usually related to her having a growth spurt and needing lots of food. Or teething.
Luey- I totally forgot you had a cesar too. How are you healing? And anyone else with c sections? Mine is going well. Sometimes I have shooting sharp pains, but I gather its the nerves trying to heal. I am still a little numb near the scar. It can be sore sometimes. Mostly only when one of the girls kicks it. Just when you think they can't do any more damage!!
Well gotta go. Need to eat before bubba wakes me up for boobies. xx
I would like to join the group too....I have another boy to add to this group, Dusty was born on the 18 March, waters broke @ 2.30 am & due to failure to progress he came out of the emergency exit @ 9.35 pm. He was 4.35kg & 54 cm long.
Whew there are a lot of babies born during march and I apologise in advance if I miss someone or mix up the names as it is not deliberate.
DS doesn't sleep very well either, I would be happy with 3 hrs straight sleep but as I keep reminding myself it won't last forever. ATM he will generaly sleep for 1-2 hrs of a morning & then nap for the rest of the day for about 30 mins until about 9.30 pm - 11 pm where he only wakes for a "dream feed" I think they call it he wakes every few hrs for a feed but doesn't wake up. Occasionaly I will put him into bed with us just to get some sleep without having to get up to feed, it makes it easier to snooze while he feeds. I bf on demand, mostly every 2-3 hrs.
Andie: DS was feeding for 20 mins on each side & started to do what Cammie is coming off & on & now he is only on each side for 5-10 mins max, at first I tried to keep on the one side until the time was up but that was just frustring both me & DS. Not sure about teething are there any "blisters" on his gums ?? that is suppose to be a sign
Laura B: DS only poos every few days now & I think it just builds up though, like your 5 day surprise. When I was first told that BF babies only poo every few days or so I couldn't wait but now I think I wish he would go at least once a day. I think your little one's fussiness at the moment is that he is probably very distracted & interested in the world around him as my DS is the same, not quite so bad but everytime I am on the phone he thinks I am talking to him & keeps trying to talk to me instead of feeding.
About the mothers group there could be a young mothers group in your area speak to your community nurse or GP. I finally plucked up the courage to go to the local playgroup & as I am in the country things seem a bit more relaxed which is good!!
All-boys: I like your boys name, we had a few strange looks & comments when we chose Dusty, I didn't know about Dusty Springfield who is a girl apparently but I figure Kim/ Peter/Jodi/Toni etc... can be either so why can't Dusty!! & we had decided on Dusty before Slim Dusty died but everyone seems to think it is a tribute to him but you get that!!
Rustygirl: I checked out your blog & your boy is beautiful, I think it is amazing that they can go from skinny little mites to chubby little buddas in such a short amount of time!!
Bec: I think you are amazing for reestablishing BF, keep at it & let us know how you go!
Luey: My sister warned me about mummy guilt, I didn't believe her but I understand now. I think my DS seems to have reflux sometimes & I'm sure you've tried everything but I will add my 2 cents worth anyway. I find it hard to burp him most of the time but persist, generally for at least 5 mins or more & put him on his tummy after a feed, & that seems to have improved things. This is not to say that he isn't unsettled sometimes & he will still throw up the curdled milk & wake up crying etc... just something to try.
Reenie: My scar has healed well but have found lately that I am getting pain occasionally in that area also AF still hasn't arrived not sure if this is because I am BF or the C-section any ideas anyone?? (sorry if TMI)
I was also wondering if anyone has thought about introducing SOLIDS yet?? more a exploration thing than replacing a BF- Just wondering what where everyone is upto there??
ALSO how long do are your bubs between sleeps, I am putting DS to sleep after about 1&1/2 hrs but seems to fight & I was thinking I should stretch it out a bit??
Thanks for your advise.Part of it is definitely being more alert.He is always looking around during feeds and playing with my hair.
Emergency ceasar must have been very scary.That was the thing I was most worried about.How was the healing?
My labor wasn't what I expected either! My contractions started at 10am on the 29th and became really painful and 5 mins apart at about 7pm.We went to the hospital but at about 3am the slowed to 10 mins apart and when they checked me at 9 am I was only 2cm and was sent home for another day of agony!I went back in at about 7pm on the 30th where they didn't even check me until 9am on the 31st!!only 4cm so they broke my waters.At about 12 they checked and was still 4cm.It then got really bad..1 non-stop contraction,I dilated to 10cm in 20 minutes and gave birth at 1:25pm.All up 50 hours.
I still don't understand why they didn't break my waters the first morning.
What was everybody Else's labors like??
Wow another boy! It's the same in my MG. 11 mums but only 2 girls! There's gonna be a lot of competition in 15 or so years!!!
Welcome njd Flynn is usually doing about 1- 1.5 hrs between daytime sleeps. I tend to play it by ear and wait until he seems tired so sometimes it is longer than that. Sometimes even tho I know he is tired he fights and fights going to sleep (it's like he is afraid he is going to miss out on something fun!!) When he is like that I usually wrap him up and put him in the rocker and he usually drifts off in there, so much better than crying!! Haven't tried any solids here, my mum keeps telling me I should start but the MCHN suggested not until about 5mths. I'm sure Flynn would happily gobble up solids, but I'm probably gonna wait a bit longer. Laura My labour was a lot easier than I expected! I had little niggles from the time I woke up on the 16th but didn't really think anything of them (I was convinced he would be about 2 weeks late!) It was really hot that day and I came home and read the paper and had a cool bath. The pains were very tolerable. I fell asleep in front of the air con! At around 5pm I rang the hospital to ask if they thought I was in labour - I still wasn't convinced that this was it! They said yeah it sounds like it but give it a while, make sure they are getting closer together and longer etc. At around 8pm I begged my DH to get us some pizza!! I had a few pieces and vomited, the pains were getting worse now! We went to the hospital at around 10pm. I was 7cm dilated then. I had the gas and had the CTG monitor on for most of the time. My waters didn't break until I started pushing, that was a bit scary! I needed to have an episiotomy cos there was meconium in the fluid and bubs hb got very slow and they wanted him out ASAP. So Flynn was born at about 3:00, weighing in at 8lb 2oz, on the 17th of March - which was his due date!!
It sounds a bit like Sam may be having a growth spurt (did someone already say that??) Hopefully he will be more reasonable soon. Hang in there girl
I think that's enough for now! Hope you are all well.
Woh ... things have moved at lightning speed in this thread since I was last on two days ago!!! Welcome njd!
Mel - darlin' you sure need a . Things will turn around for you and your family soon, I'm sure (... er, if you're into prayers, then St Monica is the patron saint of mothers! Thank my catholic school education for this genuine pearl of wisdom). Truly hope things settle down in your household. You know where we are whenever you need to let it all hang out. How's Emily's ears now?
Hayley - I'm hearing you about our bubs starting to assert themselves. I wouldn't say Cam "demands" anything (god forbid!), but I've seen a couple of flashes of temper/frustration.
Nina and CM - a bugger about Cohen and Flynn's sleeping habits. I'm no real help with advice in this department (... pls, don't throw rotten cyber eggs at me!) So far Cam is still sleeping approx 10 hours a night. Some days he has 'sleepy days', where he may have a couple of sleeps of 2-3 hours - other days he doesn't have any more than a couple of 20-30 mins sleeps. I go with the flow but am relieved he's sleeping at night. Of course, I realise all that may change in the blink of an eye ... Good luck with getting your bubs settled/asleep for longer periods at night.
Reenie and LauraB - sorry to hear your MG experiences weren't great, but in defence of older mums, were not ALL obsessed with prams and "one-upping". Promise . Of course, MY son is now walking and talking and will soon be going to university ... .
Reenie, good luck with renovating, starting uni and moving - you're more game than I'd be! Good on you for hosting a mothers group at your house ... I need to get in touch with playgroup or something similar over this side of the city. I love BB but it would be great to have a natter (and a coffee) face-to-face with some other mums.
LauraB - I posted my birthing experience in the birth stories. Sorry, I'm useless with links but think I called it Cameron James' natural birth 16/03/08. Suffice to say, I had a pretty quick labour (approx 5 hours) and had the birth I wanted, being no intervention and no drugs. I was lucky that everything "went to plan", but feel that the HyonoBirthing course DH and I attended plus relaxation/breathing exercises at home, helped. All in all, a good experience which I'd gladly repeat (hopefully in the not tooooo distant future, all being well). Sorry to hear Sam's feeding is a bit off - I can relate to some extent. Cam's feeding habits have definitely changed in the past couple of weeks in that he pulls off and on more than ever, and he doesn't need a full 10 mins from both breasts. All we can do is persist, I reckon, and hope it's just a "phase" ... Good luck with it.
Luey - glad to hear that Ethan has found some relief, but sounds like you've still a little way to go before his reflux (or whatever it may be) is totally sorted? I'm sure it isn't nice seeing your darling baby unhappy ... keep up the good work. Hope he (and his mummy) start to get some further relief soon.
Hi to Bec - sorry to hear about Jake's illness. Hope things ok and hope to hear from you soon.
Njd - no solids here yet. Cam is showing great interest in the food I eat, but I hear that's pretty normal for bubs his age. I'm not planning to introduce solids until 6 months providing we keep BFing with ease.
All-boys - hope all well with you and your brood!
I bought Cam a teething ring today. I read up on teething in Robin Barker's "Baby Love" book (almost my bible in the early days). She indicates that, like colic, "teething" is a slightly overused term that explains away unexplained crying. Similar, I think, to what you are saying Hayley. Anyway, I'm not getting hung up about whether or not Cammie is teething. However, I saw Cam rubbing his dummy backwards and forwards over his gums a few times yesterday, so I suspect something may be happening in that department. Time will tell, but hopefully the teething ring will provide him with whatever relief/relaxation he is needing.
Hope I've covered everyone in the personals ... our "little" group (as we used to say) has really taken off .... the more, the merrier !
Mel - just saw your post. Glad to hear Emily is feeling better. Tresillian sounds like a lot of running around, but will be good if it helps James and you. Thanks for the update on Bec. Take it easy there.
gosh lots of new faces in here, its great to see ! welcome njd
Reenie: i was wondering what was happening with you because i had a quick look at your facebook page and you didnt sound too happy about something ! you sound like you have so much going on, good on you for starting uni at such a busy time and with such little children, how long will the course take you ? hows things with DH ? James is a different boy during the day, he is generally in a great mood and loves to laugh out loud a lot (something i havent been able to say much) nights still arent good, he wakes anywhere between 1.5-3 hours, never really much more of a stretch than that.
Laura: i forgot to mention in my post that the ear infection is something my 2 year old daughter has, we have had a really back run of sickness lately but kids bounce back really quickly and she is chatting away in her room as i type this still awake so we are back to normal lol
also i had a really quick labour (my first was induced, i have really complicated pregnancies, and that was quick so i suspected this time would be quicker) i had a check up at the hospital at about 1pm at just over 37 weeks and was having period pain then, came home got in the bath for a bit (luckily my mum was here minding my DD) and called for my hubby to come home from work and by the time he got here (about 330pm) they really hit me, we got to the hospital at 355pm and James was born at 423pm, think my hubby was a tad nervous driving there that we werent going to make it in time !
i remember my DD being distracted when feeding around this age, they are just so much more aware of other things going on it seems hard to concentrate at the job at hand lol
njd: we wont be starting solids until 6 months, we have a family history of asthma and allergies (hay fever etc) so thats my reasoning behind it, although James is very interested when we eat around him !
Luey: poor E (do you use his initial because you dont want his whole name on BB ?) its so hard when they cant tell you what the problem is, i hope things continue to improve for you with the mylanta. i rang tresillian today to confirm my referral (seriously how ridiculous that i had to do that) and the next step is i have to have a phone interview with them next wed (i have to call them for that too !) and then i guess form there they decide how urgent it is i get into one of the residential units ! clearly they make it so difficult for a reason....????!!!! i still think we would benefit going (although things are MUCH improved on what they were) he slept 3 hours straight this afternoon but nights are bad so im not sure i will go through with the whole upheaval going to stay for a week will cause here (ie hubby taking a week off work or sending DD to grandparents, which i wouldnt do for the whole week)
Hayley: good to hear from you, i hope things with DH are ok, you cope amazingly well with 4 little ones ! yes we should meet up one of these days !
hi Nina
Andie: would love to see some pics of Cam at the christening when you have time
Catherine: thanks for the hugs ! good to hear you weren't diagnosed with PCOS
Bec will still be missing with computer problems for a bit longer but Jake is doing ok and she is going well with relactating, she will have a new email address when she gets back and she asked me to tell you all so i will send you all an email privately for you to update your list(to the new girls, we also contact each other via email, mostly to share photos of our cherubs but also as a back up when BB isn't working well, so if you girl want to be added to the email list just PM me your email addresses and i will add you on and send you everyone elses address)
i better get tidying up and to bed while the little one is sleeping !
as a reply to the sleeping through the night. seth has slept throught the night since he was about 6 weeks old. goes to bed at 10-10.30 and wakes around 7.30-8
luvin it
jo- glad to hear that mick is fine besides minor cuts and scratches!!! gosh what a freak out you must have had.
the self settling thing seems to be working during the day, but lastnight cohen sat in his cot after a bottle from 1:30 am till 3:15 this morn tilll i put him in our bed where he went straight to sleep within 10 mins!!! arghhhh!! what do i do???
for you. If you ever need to vent, vent away. I know I have many times. It is nice to know, that even though we can't get together in person, we can jump on here and write our our frustrations, and that sooner or later, other mothers with similar aged bubs, read it and empathise.
Hope it works out. Other then that, we are moving into a house in a few weeks and I will be hosting a playgroup there once a week. That way I can be in control of any threats to my toddlers allergies, and enjoy socialising in a more convenient and safe environment. Playgroup Australia is who I am going through.
but as I keep reminding myself it won't last forever. ATM he will generaly sleep for 1-2 hrs of a morning & then nap for the rest of the day for about 30 mins until about 9.30 pm - 11 pm where he only wakes for a "dream feed" I think they call it he wakes every few hrs for a feed but doesn't wake up. Occasionaly I will put him into bed with us just to get some sleep without having to get up to feed, it makes it easier to snooze while he feeds. I bf on demand, mostly every 2-3 hrs.
) Hopefully he will be more reasonable soon. Hang in there girl 
. Of course, MY son is now walking and talking and will soon be going to university ... 
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... keep up the good work. Hope he (and his mummy) start to get some further relief soon.
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