kass : oh dear over key as for silent reflux i have no advice, we had few days where Luke was very unsettled but they coincided with when it was quite breezy outside and we had been out in the wind as such..could that be happening with Lucy we all get cross when we can't make them stop crying and the lack of sleep doesn't help matter
stevie : glad hubby has realised he may need to get help, we are always here if ya need to vent, talk etc
AFM : I got some hiruoid cream someone on BB suggested it feet look so much better today still a little puffy but not sore
we had a fairly good night luke in bed by 10pm woke at 2am and 4.50am for feeds he did wake at 7am but i brought him into bed with me and jack joined us at 7.45am we all slep till 8.15am i know jack and i would have slept longer but cranky pants luke wanted a feed so much better than him waking at 5.30am for the day yesterday and not going back down till 8.30am by which jack was up I was cranky tired mummy by bedtime last night also was first day alone jase has gone back to work and I think I overdid it with the washing so today will fold washing and unpack from last week and thats it
Boomba - good to see you in here!! Jasper Leo - born 24th of Oct, at 6:00pm (7 pound 15 oz).
Fi - Congrats on completing your last uni assignment ever - what a great feeling that is!! Amazing job managing that with a newborn
Stevie - Feel free to vent hon. I agree with what the others have said - having a baby puts strain on the best of relationships, so its understandable that if you have some issues, they will come to the forefront now. You are in the most difficult stage at the moment, so I think things will get better for both of you (lack of sleep can make the best of us short-tempered!!). As Alissa grows she will also add a different dimension to your relationship. At the moment she is just taking from the two of you (sleep, milk, sanity - lol), but there will soon come a day when the 2 of you will lose count of the amount of times she has made you laugh in a single day. Hang in there. It will be easier to address problems in your marriage when you are not giving so much of your time and energy to the little one.
Dedicated Mummy - I'm not familiar with silent reflux, but DS1 had reflux (and wind/colic) quite bad. We found the most effective treatment to be chiropractic care. Various studies have found digestive issues in newborns to be muscular-skeletal based rather than gastro-intestinal based.
Jasper's wind has not been as bad, but after 2 chiro appointments there has been a major improvement in his digestion. The chiro also treated him for his blocked tear duct which has also been eliminated naturally (quite amazing). I highly recommend this method of treatment based on my personal experience - there are no side effects like there are with reflux drugs etc.
Tammie - half your luck hon!! 5-6 hour stretches at night - ENJOY is all I can say!!
Rach - sounds like you are doing pretty well to keep up with the washing with 2 littlies. My house is looking rather hideous at the moment
LJ - hope your day out with the MIL went well. Sometimes getting out and about is the best thing for us - even when all we feel like doing is crawling into a hole!!
Stevie I'm so glad DH has realised that his behaviour is hurting all of you and is getting some help, that is such a wonderful, positive step. It shows just how much he really cares about you and Alissa.
DM - OMG about the keys and crazy expenses you incurred! I'm not too sure about silent reflux but interestingly I had a visit from the local health nurse this morning and she said that a lot of babies are misdiagnosed with wind/colic/reflux when they cry during the night and do all the things typically associated with these conditions - she said the majority of the time they are in fact just overtired. Not sure if this is the case or not but thought I'd mention it as something to consider anyway as I was very surprised when she told me.
JB I'm with you on the chiro thing. I haven't actually taken Leila yet but I am thinking about it. It's amazing what chiro's can do. A few years ago I used to get tonsilitis all the time and almost had to have them out when by chance I was at an expo thing and they had chiro's there talking about all the things that could be fixed with their treatment. So I started seeing a chiro in the hope of helping with my tonsilitis (never thought this would help & never understood how adjusting your back could fix something in your throat!) but I have never had tonsilitis since! Also during late pregnancy I was having terrible back problems so went to the chiro and was completely fixed in no time. It's amazing how they can realign your whole body and put everything back into balance.
AFM all going well. Another pretty good night for us. Leila is sleeping peacefully at the moment and I am so chilled now that I have my anglecare monitor - I haven't been in to check on her once!! The nurse this morning said that Leila was just gorgeous, that I'm doing fabulously as a mother and genearlly everything is just perfect - really good weight gain & growth and she said she just looks like a really happy, relaxed baby etc. So I feel great knowing that my little girl is doing so well plus the recognition that I'm doing so well as a mother was nice too as it is not always easy - in fact it's really tough at times, as we all know!
Hmmm, now that I've finished uni and have a baby that sleeps well I don't really know what to do with myself! Cleaning.... nah!! That can wait
Jellybean- I have always been against chiro, until I found an amazing man who fixed my back. First he had a massive convo with me about all my fears. Best thing was he agreed with what I was saying and showed me his take on chiro work. Extremly different to many others. I spoke to him about newborn care and he convinced me of its amazing results Im very much against drugs and toxins unless last resort so I might give him a bell.
Fi- Totally get where your health nurse is coming from. When Annabelle was a baby I was told by mum etc to keep burping as she 'had wind'. I called the health nurse line, one really bad night. She told me Annabelle was being over stimulated by me trying to burp her for so long and she was over tired
Having said that, Lucy is different, it really seems like something else
Rach- Sounds like my house having the bigger one jump into bed with me I love cuddling my girls in bed.
Sounds like Luke is settling down a little hopefully he keeps it up!
I am going to go mental today, did so well yesterday..then had nice sleep in with the boys and it all went down hill from there, Luke has only just gone down he has been awake since just after 8.15am he has dozed off a couple of times but maybe 10min max Jack has been driving me batty he is bored and out of soughts because he can't have all my attention ... and we are housebound as I can't drive till I see OB
I seriosuly have done nothing today except wash bottles and that had to be done as I was running out, luke screamed while I was doing this but had no choice had to be done..I haven't managed to have a shower and giving Luke 5min if he is still sleeping then I will shower I to fold the washing and unpack it has to be done... floors can wait till tomorrow though...
also am stressing as I can't seem to get any milk when i pump was doing real well up till yesterday, was getting on average 75mls from both bb's up till sat, then I didn't pump as much on sun due to only hvaing the manual, pumped sun night got 120ml... picked up pump yesterday finally managed o pump in the arvie got 50ml in 10min since then though I have pumped 6 times and bairly managed to get anything the most I got was 10ml from both bb's I am drinking heaps of water probably not eating as much but is hard with luke wanting to be cuddled.. I feel like I am failing everythingn was going so well and all of a sudden its gone downhill
Hi girls just popping in quickly with the list will be back later let me know if its right please xxxx
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Rach hun your doing a fabulous job, Ds1 is finding it hard too and driving me insane..I have never smacked him but did yetserday as he bit me out of the blue and it actually made me cry..I felt so bad i hit him but it was a reaction I think Are you feeidn Luke at all or just wiht the bottles? Maybe this is why your not getting as much? Maybe ring the aba they will be able to help. Hows the fluid retention? So glad you got a sleep in i would give anyhting to have ds1 sleep past 5 lol! Stevie oh hun...men just dont get it! Dh and i havd a big fight this arvo and he still doesnt get it Hope you guys can sort something out Fi congrats on your last assignment being handed in woooohoooo! Kass wow thats an expensive shopping trip! Its always the way you buy the thing you loose only for it to turn up the next day! Not sure on silent reflux but my Sil used mariners infant mixture for reflux on my nephew and she swore by it!
Oh and nayco1...isnt on the list does anyone know when she had bubs?
Well Ds1 got his foot stuck in a toy this morning! Have no idea how but i had to call Dh home from work to help me get it out! Ds is being really hard to deal wiht and really sooky...poor kid doesnt understand why mummy cant give him full attention!
Am off to the ob tommorrow as i started bleeding quiet heavy and passed a really big clot so am just getting checked out!
anyway have a lovely evening ladies! Your all doing a fabulous job and remember we are all here for eachother xxxx
boomba : I try to get him t attach once or twice aday he does attach for a few minutes or so but then pulls away... nothing still up till sat I was leaking all the time now I am not leaking at all either who the flip knows, the fluid retention is getting worse my entire legs are tingling like I have pins and needles same with my arms and my belly is swollen as well much like the days following birth anyway see CHN tomorrow so will ask her and see if she thinks a visit to dr is worth it, we only have locums out here
AF Luke its going to be a long night me thinks he has been fed changed bathed he has poo'd burped farted yet he is still unsettled he is sleeping ATM thank god I just got up from laying down with him for past hr... to find jase has done nothing except eat dinner and feed animals hasn't even put away leftovers, so I best get up wash up do bottles have shower and pray luke sleeps while I do
Aww Rach hun you poor thing.....definitly se the dr about the retention, as fior the feeding just do what is best for you hun. You dont think he may have thrush? myabe thats why he is fussing? give the ABA helpline a call they will help you!
Hope you get some rest babe! xxx
no he has fussed from birth I have fibrous nipples or something like that makes it hard for him to suck I dont know it was going so well pumping etc, and I kept thinking once I got the new pump everythingn would be easier being a dual electric etc.. as for ABA well I could ring the silly cow out here but everytime I see her I want to run she is a **** the one in gladstone is great but she was very pushy about attaching etc... as I said am seeing Child health tomorrow so will talk to her but I think with the pain I am in tonight I am going to try to see dr in morning hopefully I can make a appoint for around same time as CHN appoint as I have to walk to both and they are next door to each other so would be more convenient... I know very well a lasec tablet would take the pain right away but I dont think you can take that while BF anyway going to see if jase will give them a good rub while luke is sleeping then try and hit the hay myself
Rach hope you got some decent sleep last night and that you are feeling a little better about everything. Maybe you are having trouble with your milk because you are stressed? Not sure how much of an impact stress has but sometimes I worry about my milk when I am stressed and I think worrying about it just makes it worse!
We didn't have a very good night last night. It was a weird one actually, Leila didn't cry all night or anything but she just wouldn't sleep for more than an hour - hour half at a time then needed a feed. So of course I didn't really sleep at all with the feeding, burping, settling, feeding, burping, settling etc!! She settled ok so it's not like we are back to having her screaming and unsettled all the time thank goodness, but far out it took it out of me! I got so frustrated at one point and started worrying about my milk - if I was producing enough, was it good enough for her, why was she needing to feed to frequently etc. Also she is a strong little girl! She's already moving around the bassinet changing positions! We swaddle her so she moves like a little worm, it's so funny! I'll put her down in one position and before I know it she's changed - so if I put her on her tummy with head to right side, before I know it she's managed to lift her head and move it to left side. And on her back, well she just squirms and wriggles constantly Let's hope she sleeps better tonight otherwise mummy might lose her mind from sleep deprivation!
Oh I love all of our names - well done girls on choosing such lovely names for your babies
Hope everyone has a good day and an even better night!
thanks Fi : child health nurse said not pumpin gmuch over weekend pay have affected supply as for fluid retention as well, hormonal imbalance, only thing I can do is pump as much as I can to get supply back
we had a good night last night, ended up waking him around 10pm for a feed and change he then slept thru till 3am and didn't wake again till 7am stayed awake most of morning bit grumbly and clingy still we went to CHN visited a friend we walked to CHN but jase managed to come home pick us up so we didn't need to walk home, got home a little while ago, had shower is so hot even with ceiling fans and air cooler it is 35c inside fed luke he is sleeping and jack and I are having lunch
as for piggy Luke holy heck he was 3700grm @ birth 3540 @ discharge 3770grm @ 1 w 4d so today she said we'd like him to be about 4000gr well at 3 w 4d he is 4585grm holy heck
hello ladies,
oh fi you poor thing Ali's pretty good at night but we do have our occassional bad night (last night for example) and its not that she's crying, she's just awake. Eyes wide open and not even a sign of sleepiness, whereas me im sitting there with my eyes hanging out of my head, nodding off to sleep.
Kass, im sorry but i had a giggle that you found your keys the next day.. baby brain, my sweet
Yes, there is a bunch of nice names in this group, all very different and absolutely gorgeous
AFM, we had a grumpy day yesterday, but about mid afternoon she had a chuck and calmed down alot, she wasnt screaming, just grizzly. Today she was AWESOME. i took her up to MILs place i expressed some milk, i was abit worried coz i hadnt tried her on a bottle properly yet, but i had so much housework that i just cant get done when im on my own with her, i was only ment to leave her there for an hour but time got away from me, and it ended up being almost 3 hours but she was so good, she drank the EBM from the bottle with no dramas and she was a happy lil chappy all day
the in laws LOVE having her up there, i dont talk to my mum so its good that she has one set of granparents that adore her like they do, and selfishly it makes my life a million times easier, especially now that i can express milk and leave her with them
anyway am off to get some dinner, and do the nightly routine, on that note, im starting to get a routine (its taken me long enough ) which is really good, but then DH will come home and throw it all out LOL
have a good night.
Sending awesome sleepy vibes to all our babies xxx
Fi - i have been going through similar unsettled times with Eli and did some reading and found that bubs have a 3 week growth spurt which makes them unsettled and just want to feed constantly. The good news is that it usually only lasts for a day or 2 and will help to increase your milk supply... the bad news is that it is super draining even if it is only a short period of time. They also have growth spurts which can be similar in week 6 and 3 mths and 6 mths....
Stevie - you don't need me to tell you how hard having a bub is on ANY relationship... be it a partner or any other family member. In your case it is just especially hard because you aren't together to support eachother as much... as everyone else has said, hang in there because it will improve as you get settled with bub and get into a bit of a routine etc..... huge hugs in the meantime though!
Rach - i am impressed that you can pump as much as you do! it hurts... maybe i do it wrong or something but i find it quite painful and can only pump for about 15 mins at a time.... good luck increasing your milk supply again though!
Oh - i have visitors that have just turned up so better go and will be back soon!
we all get cross when we can't make them stop crying and the lack of sleep doesn't help matter
so much better than him waking at 5.30am for the day yesterday and not going back down till 8.30am by which jack was up I was cranky tired mummy by bedtime last night also was first day alone jase has gone back to work and I think I overdid it with the washing 
so today will fold washing and unpack from last week and thats it
since then though I have pumped 6 times and bairly managed to get anything the most I got was 10ml from both bb's I am drinking heaps of water probably not eating as much but is hard with luke wanting to be cuddled.. I feel like I am failing everythingn was going so well and all of a sudden its gone downhill 
Hope you guys can sort something out 
anyway see CHN tomorrow so will ask her and see if she thinks a visit to dr is worth it, we only have locums out here 
its going to be a long night me thinks he has been fed changed bathed he has poo'd burped farted yet he is still unsettled he is sleeping ATM thank god I just got up from laying down with him for past hr... to find jase has done nothing except eat dinner and feed animals hasn't even put away leftovers, so I best get up wash up do bottles have shower and pray luke sleeps while I do 
hope you got some decent sleep last night and that you are feeling a little better about everything. Maybe you are having trouble with your milk because you are stressed? Not sure how much of an impact stress has but sometimes I worry about my milk when I am stressed and I think worrying about it just makes it worse!
fed luke he is sleeping and jack and I are having lunch
4585grm holy heck
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