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    Our video camera is also JVC, we bought it when molly was born, i love being able to watch old dvd's of molly and seeing how like her Will is

    Nikki - It took a couple of days to break Will's habit of sleeping with us etc. We would put him in bed when he was tired and then stand there with him while he drifted off and then leave the room. If he cried we would settle him using pats on the belly, talking, cuddling etc then when he was settled again we would put him straight down and move away from the cot. we would keep doing this until he got the message that he had to sleep in his own bed. It took a couple of days but was worth it. How do you enjoy being a nurse, I always thought it would be one of the most under-appreciated jobs!

    How do you all feel about the bf debate going on ATM? Being a forum full of mothers i dont imagine there would be anyone opposed to bf in public Can you believe these people who find it offensive?!?! :fuming: I mean if a guy walked down the street with no pants on I could understand some people being offended (even then I would probably laugh ) but a bf mother is feeding her child! Millions of people eat in public, and even if they are messy, piggy eaters nobody complains about being offended. There is such a movement towards rights for children, respect for children yet these people want our babies to be fed in dingy public toilets, what about their needs and rights? Also it's not like you can see anything while a baby is feeding anyway, its not like there will be breasts flapping all over the place In actual fact this is what breasts are FOR, it is secondary that they are a sexual organ and that is something society has perpetuated anyway...

    So what do you all think, sorry for the long post....


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    ditto to all you said Kell - it just shouldnt be a big issue. Have we gone so far from nature that feeding a baby is offensive? FFS - it's been going on as long as we have been here!

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    8-[ Just a quick po in to say Hi...
    I have had a busy weekend, so hadnt been around much...
    Tried to read back a bit & sounds like eveyone is well, which is great!

    catch up again soon!!!

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    Hello girls...we are home...so exhausted but fun. Ive just had a quick squiz and all the posts but will try and talk more later.

    Great website Storm..hes such a cutie!

    Fletchie and Georgie that is sooo cool....that must have been such a spin out lol. Oh and i love those toss and throw thingiemingies...i got some a while ago..they are ideal for bubbas.

    Welcome Brooke and Charlotte..so nice of you to join us in here.

    Hiya Soph, Cass and Louise.

    Sorry to be so slack my eyeballs are practically falling out of my head...we did not end up with a huge amount of sleep over the weekend. Sammy loved it and the kids all had so much fun playing with each other.

    Gonna go and have a nap with lil boy..bbl

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    Hey Girls!

    Soph, congrats on officially selling your house! That's good news - although it's understandable that you were a bit teary. Good to hear your trip went ok - except for the car ride up! Does Lucie not like the car/car seat? Josh is doing well, thanks. Still not eating heaps, but I'm trying to take on your relaxed attitude. He's currently sitting on the lounge with his Dad watching the football and seems to be enjoying himself!

    Jo, Glad to hear you enjoyed your camping trip! You'll have to tell us all about it.

    Fletch & Georgie, how funny that you met in Big W! I'm always amazed by coincidences like that - especially with the number of people who live in Sydney! It's nice that you got to meet, anyway.

    Fletch, I'm looking forward to catching up with you too! The meet up should be good fun.

    Zane & Kaitlyn, yay for teeth! Well done bubbas!

    Cass, yep, the meet up is on the 27th. I'd love a copy of the flyer you mentioned too. I will PM an email address to you.

    Cass & Georgie, we're in the middle of the "to wrap or not" decision here too. I don't think Josh particularly enjoys being wrapped, but he has always needed it to get to sleep. He seems ready to make the change though. He is at the point now where he generally gets himself out of the wrap by the end of the night, so I'm just leaving him once he gets out and letting him get used to sleeping with his arms out that way. I've also started wrapping him with one arm out during the day every now and then and he is going ok with that. One other thing I have tried is putting him in a light sleeveless sleeping bag. I zip it up with his arms inside so they feel secure for him to go off to sleep and during his sleep he wriggles his arms out the arm holes and manages to stay asleep with his arms out.

    Storm, love Zac's webpage! I can't wait to see some more pics - he's such a sweetie!

    Louise, 6.3kg is great. Go Maria! And well done on finding the dress that you wanted, too.

    Brooke & Charlotte, welcome! It's great to have another person to chat with. It's sounds like you are really enjoying being a mum. Hopefully we'll be hearing about #2 soon! I look forward to meeting you both at the meet up!

    We have had a fairly quiet weekend. DH took Josh out for a couple of hours yesterday so I could have a bit of "me" time - I can't remember the last time it was just me in the house! Josh has decided that he doesn't like vegies any more. He will *not* open his mouth for them. All he likes atm is fruit and yoghurt. I had a quick read of Baby Love though, and she says not to stress about it and to just feed bub something else until they are ready to try vegies again. So fruit and yoghurt it is!

    I hope everyone has had a lovely weekend. Catch up again soon!

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    Kell - Well done Kell =D> I have found one very understanding restaurant up here so far that you can openly bf your child in. My shock was being asked at one of the clubs here, to feed Benjamin in the ladies loos, I told them I'd rather feed him in my car and they were the ones that acted all offended. I suppose if you come from the darkages and believe that feeding your bub in public is not on and should be done in secret, fine! Me, if my boy wants to eat, he's gonna eat. Your opinion on public bf is spot on. Some people need to come out of the darkages... You still get the ones who say you should bottle it before you come out, that's just more mess to clean up later when you get home.
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    Melissa - I cant believe they actually asked you to go into the toilet!!! :shock: :fuming: Thats awful! I'm glad you've found a good restaraunt that you can feed him in now.

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    Linda - It's like these restauranter's don't think or something! Some restaurants you just want to laugh at when they say the phrase "bring the family" because you know that they aren't equipped for a bub.

    We have fantastic parents rooms up here in most of our shopping centres. They have a small play area, children's toilet plus an adults one, disposable nappy machines (incase you forgot to bring your own), changing areas, comfy chairs to feed bub's in, a microwave, even a stainless steel bathing area. They even get in a child's health nurse twice a week, for weigh-in's and advice. You don't even have to push a door open and try and squeeze your pram through, the doors open at a touch of a button.

    Someone out there is thinking of us! =D> Just not enough of them :fuming:

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    Hi!

    Well, Louis is back to sleeping terribly. Hopefully tonight will be a little better because last night the most he slept in a row was 2hours! grrrr. It seems that he sleeps a bit better when he has smaller sleeps through the day. If he has 4 hours + all up through the day he doesn't sleep well and if has about 3 hours all up he sleeps better....
    He's been really good though getting lots of giggles when we tickle him. He's rolliing around to grab toys and wiggling forward a little bit. We're also finally getting some cuddles! Yeah!

    Donella - No teeth for Louis yet however I think one of his bottom teeth won't be far off. His little cheeks were a bit pink tonight and his been so grizzly but of course that could mean anything - hehe. Although if you say Dylan has been waking up more maybe it has something to do with it...Thats so exciting - he'll look so cute when it's fully up!!

    Congrats on your job!

    Kell - What will you study? I'm with you all on the bf debate - I think it shouldn't even be an issue. Do you know I have had kids ask why Louis doesn't have a bottle for his milk because they don't even realise that you can feed him yourself!! (not a dig at ff I just think kids should know...) I have fed in a pub and I feed at peoples houses because I do it modestly - Its not like anyone just sits around with a boob out - hehe. At dhs grandparents they had people over so I went into the br for that but thats about the only time I have. You see more of womens boobs in advertising or on t.v....Linda good point - what did everyone drink when formula/bottles weren't around???? I'm not going to let my bubba scream just because other people are uncomfortable.

    Melissa - thats terrible - I would have said nup I'm feeding right here!!! hehehe. Wow on the parents rooms. We have a few ok ones - just the basics but at least they're around!

    Linda - It's great watching all the footage isn't it! We haven't taken much lately [-X must do that...

    Cindy - We've just got a panasonic - its about 5 years old! I don't think you need to spend too much on them, they're all pretty good now.

    Nikki - I'm with you on the love - this is such a great age! I'm sure it just gets better and better also.

    I hope you all had a great weekend! Sorry for the epic!

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    Melissa - the parents rooms sound great up there!!! Wow! Because I'm in a small town with small shopping centres, ours are awful! One has a small area with a shower curtain, a bench to chnage babies nappy on and a sink. The other one is just a small room with a chair

    Kristie - I hope Louis sleeps better tonight. You must be really tired right now!

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    Glad you had a great time camping Jo

    Hi Trace!!

    Hi Soph glad your back safe & sound!

    Hi Cass ooooo a toofie, how clever is Miss Kaitlyn.How is the JJ hunt going?

    Hi Fletchie a toofie for Zane too, wowee that's good,But i know what you mean about you crying, it's so sad when they start growing up, do tell, have you taken your monster out yet?

    Hey Georgie, how's James?

    Hiya Bec, it's so nice to get me time isn't it? I tend to go right over my house when they've all gone out.

    HI Brooke, how is Charlotte today?

    Well I think poor Zaccie is getting a cold, he's been coughing all day long, no snotty nose as yet so fingers crossed it's nothing.
    He can almost crawl too, if you can call it that, it's more like a caterpillar crawl, funny to see.
    I still wrap Zac all though it's kina 1/2 a$$ed now it doesn't seem to bother him if he is or isn't, but I still like to hang on to the little baby ways He likes to hold onto it more so, & pull it up to his face.

    I think that now I have done a web for Zac I might change my ticker to a TTC one, but I feel like I am taking something away from him, what do you all think, silly? Yeah it is but I can't bear to do it just now.

    Well, must go & be sociable to Bill, otherwise there will be no games of Yahtzee tonight & I am on a winning streak.
    Goodnight, I hope you all get lots of :sleeping:

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    Hi Girls,

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    I cant believe Charlotte is saying Dad , daddy and Mummy ..what a clever little cherub!. And yay on the night sleeping . Kaitlyn is usually now 7pmish - 5amish on a good night . But with the toofie coming through it is all over the place at the moment!. She also used to be a catnapper during the day but for the last few weeks she has moved to a 1.5-2 hour morning sleep and then usually the same again in the afternoon..yay!.

    Soph
    I am glad your house is finalised now ..what a relief!. Shame poor princess cried for the 100Kms though ..arghhh. Kaitlyn loves the biccies but oh the mess!.

    Love the website Storm! Zac is such a cutie pie.

    Tracy
    I hope you are having a nice weekend!

    Jo I hope you are having a nice sleep after your trip..I bet the kids loved it.

    Bec
    your time alone sounds soooo nice!. Reminds me of when I was going to physio for my wrist when Kaitlyn was about 4 weeks old . The physio used to say sorry for taking to long and I remember thinking how much I loved just lying in silence on the bed hehehe. I hear you on the wrap Kaitlyn is sometimes sleeping with one arm out during the day but teething is kinda throughing everything out the window. I love the idea with the sleeping bag though so I might try that.

    Well girls I got my JJ...finally. But I have to confess I did not get it off Ebay, I walked into a store with DH who is my little "just buy it we will make the money back tomorrow " man ...think he sometimes forgets we are on one wage! But anyway we got it hehehe..paid $123.00 including stand which is not to bad . But the thing is HUGE so now it is a fixture in our Lounge room . I am still coming to terms with all the fun baby things lying around rather then the "everything in its tidy place " look I used to go for hehehe. I guess I better get used to it as once Kaitlyn is on the move it will all get worse I guess

    Oh ..forgot to say Kaitlyn loved the JJ so it is all worth it. We also were tempted to buy one of those swinging chairs as she sat in it at the store and really loved it.

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    Hi girls!

    Great to hear most babies have been kind to their mummies this week (other than lil Louis - poor you Kristie!). Am still catching up on everyone's posts so no personals just yet.

    We've now got Gussy's helmet. It's quite an adjustment for him. It works by pushing hard on the parts of his skull that protrude and not on the areas that need to receive the shifting sutures/or need new bone growth. All that pressing means he is left with deep red marks at the contact points and bruises under the red marks. We've had the helmet adjusted a few times as it was originally overly agressive in its pushing power so it was hurting him to much. We have to work up to Gus wearing it constantly for 23 out of 24 hours. So far the longest continuous stretch he has tolerated wearing it is 20 minutes. Seems it will be a looooong weaning in process if we're to get anywhere near the target 23hours!

    We started solids for the first time yesterday - good old Farex. Gus now weighs 4.7kg so I'm really hoping he takes to his food better than he's done to breastfeeding/drinking EBM so that he can pick up some extra weight. Have those of you who've started solids found your bubs are gaining weight faster now than they were when they were just fed milk? I'm also hoping it will mean we might not have to wake him overnight for feeds for much longer. So far Gussy's little tummy only holds small volumes so he still needs feeding about every 4 hours and as it takes him an hour to drink his bottle and then 20mins or so for me to express/sterilise, I'm still very sleep deprived. Only ever seem to have about 2 hours consecutive sleep. Can't believe I've been doing this now for almost 8 months. Peculiarly time both seems to have flown and dragged. Must say it's been making me rethink our original plan to be preggers again about now!

    Gussy's recently learned to move along the carpet/cot mattress like an inchworm. He arches his back so only his head and feet are on the floor, then shuffles his feet in towards his shoulders, then flips his shoulders back, collapses his back then starts all over again. We have a single bed in Gussy's room and I found him underneath it the other day. Was very scary as I couldn't see him & could just hear babbling but wasn't sure where it was coming from. Ahhh tis just the beginning!

    Hope everyone has a great week and that all bubs are extra nice to their mummies. xx

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    Kirsty - its so good to hear from you! Aaww, the helmet sounds tough! Must be so hard! How long is it expected to take? As for the sleep - I dont know how you are surviving with only that much! Good on you for keeping up with theb/f - especially when it is so much extra work for you with the expressing, you are such a champ! I hope the solids helps you get some longer sleeps! With Emma, she had stopped sleeping through, then the very day I started her on solids she started sleeping through again, so yes, it definately helped.

    Oh - & how cute on the way he is moving! Just gorgeous!

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    Yippee on the JJ Cass, many of fun hours to be had, i'm sure. Just keep an eye on the little nut thingy that supports the chain, Cos they can come loose & they whole thing goes splat, including baby :fuming:

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    Linda, As with wearing braces to straighten teeth (where they are never really sure how fast the teeth will correct), the various specialists are not quite sure how long Gussy will need to wear the helmet. The orthotist (man who made the helmet) and neurosurgeon have each given an estimated range of time of between four and eighteen months. So it's going to be a relatively long process.
    BTW, It's great to hear Emma's sleep improved with the start of solids. Fingers crossed my boy takes to them to!

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    Kirsty - The helmet sounds tough, poor Gussy. I suppose it will all be worth it in the end. Sometimes its hard to think of there being an end to the tough times, but thankfully there is OMG 2 hours sleep at a time, how are you surviving!? I thought i was suffering when Will didnt sleep through until 4-5 months, hopefully the solids will help with sleep We havent had Will weighed since starting solids, so not sure re the weight gains...

    Krisvee - I am looking at studying Information and Library science, I want to be a school librarian while the kids are young and at school so i get holidays with them etc and then hopefully branch out as the course leads to careers in inforamtion technology, publishing, pr, event management etc. Who knows though i might end up loving being a school librarian and stick with it That surprises me about kids not knowing how babies are fed, Molly used to tell everyone who asked that when Will cried he was hungry and needed mummies boobie


    Melissa - The parents rooms sound great, the new penrith shopping centre has a great one too, but at home we have nothing like that. :fuming: at the club, I cant beleive the attitude of some people. How can they possible expect people to go to all the trouble of sterilising, expressing, storing, transporting and then feeding the baby a bottle, when not all babies take bottles when they are bf in the first place!

    Linda - Absolutely bf is as old as human beings, and these people who are complaining were most likely bf themselves! For such a 'free' society some people are awfully up tight...

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    Hi!

    Well, Louis had another shocker of a night. Waking every 2 hours and at 3am wanting a feed. I refused to feed him - hehe as it would mean he was feeding 4 hourly around the clock again!!! So dh and I settled him which took just under 2 hours!! GRRR. He then had about another 1 1/2 sleep to 6.40am. I called the Mchn this morning and she said it's fine to try and settle him without feeding at that time now. It's just been really tiring...

    We jumped up this morning though and headed to the gym - Louis goes into creche for an hour - I so didn't feel like it but I'm glad I went. I have to go early or theres no way I would go!!

    Kirsty - Good to hear from you! Don't worry about me - your the supermum here!! Let's hope that Gussy's helmet only needs to be on for a short amount of time - it must be hard seeing it hurt him though. Yeah on the solids! Louis puts on about 400-500g a month and I don't think it's really changed with solids but you never know...

    Linda - thought I better stop chatting in the other thread...I just renewed my mini-pill pescription for another 4 months. I'll probably go off it then and see what happens. That will make Louis 9 1/2 months when that happens....

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