Hugs Kate!! so sorry to hear your birth did'nt go as well as you had hoped...a debriefing service might be very helpful..I wish they had a service available when I had my first..I had such wonderful plans that were dashed beyond belief..and yes it has affected my views on birth so much so that I was scared to have another baby for a long time..and even up to Tilly's birth..
Birth has never been that wondeful experience for me that a lot of other people seem to get.. in saying that I have made a kind of peace with it all??? I guess life is full of disappointments..some more so than others an looking at it like that has made it a bit easier for me and time heals most wounds..you never forget but it gets easier to deal with it...when you feel down look at the beautiful little girl you have created.. a little bushfire miracle!! Thats how I look at Tilly, against all odds we recieved an amazing gift after a tragic traumatic time...sorry if thats to intense??

Murraysmum great job...ouch about the tear and hopefully Murray does'nt take too long to adjust.

Sarah..I know I often look a thsoe girls who choose not to BF and wish I coud swap milk supplies??? lol each to their own I guess...I have the same problems each time this time is a bit worse, busier I guess.

Bhoysgirl, thanks I tried the herbs other times, found what works best for me is motillum got to 6 months last time, a friend is loaning me her breast pump..I have done that before as well but willhave another go..Tilly is sleeping a long time between feeds with that comp so will give me a good chance to pump and build the suppply knowing I ahve loads of time to build up more before she wakes up. Early days yet, but would you be interested in meeting up, sometime ??? and Kate if you are interested..any other Melb girls.. I am happy to travel your way..!!??
Chow!!! off to have a cuppa with the family.