Skybie - yeah, Isobel sounds a bit strange to us too as Izzy has really stuck! I love both names so much though
Sanchez - Izzy doesn't scream, she's just unsettle during the day. Well she has been for the past couple of weeks now. She has little cries during a feed sometimes and often cries not long after being put down. I got her down for an hour sleep this morning and I had to rock the bassinet 6 times in an hour to resettle her as she was crying in her sleep. I really think it is silent reflux so I can't wait to see if the medication works.
Kelly - thanks hon. I do love knowing I can vent to you girls at any time of the day. I love the support in our group. Thankfully I have lots of support around me in Perth too. My mothers group is a godsend too - the girls are lovely and it so nice to know we are all going through the same things. As for your supply, I strongly suggest going on Motillium. It's worked wonders for me. I have Motillium (double the dose the gp prescribed) and Fenugreek (herbal remedy) three times a day and I let Izzy feed as much as she wants to. I also try to express once a day too just so I have a top up (or a full feed) ready in a bottle but it also gets my boobs thinking Izzy has had another feed and more milk is produced. I expressed 170ml total the other morning and my LC said that was great. I have expressed up to 200ml though.
Sangie - wind is a right nuisance, hey! Izzy has that issue too. She farts A LOT (and my god they smell!) and burps after her feeds but she often has wind pain. It drives me mad. I give her Infacol with each feed now and it does seem to help. Izzy is only pooping roughly every 4 days so I think that causes her a bit of pain too, especially as she has a formula feed each day. Poor little things!
Kosi - thanks for the sleep and settling info. We had a similar chat at our mothers group the other week. Some of it was really interesting. I'm loving my mothers group and wouldn't miss it for the world. The girls are lovely and we have a good gasbag every time. Izzy is always so settled there too, not sure why!
AFU - we've had a reall y good day although poor Izzy has suffered a bit with the heat over here. DH got her to sleep for me this morning so I could have a nap and I managed to get her down for an hour again this morning and an hour and a half this afternoon! I'm so pleased! I also took the bassinet off our pram and put Izzy in the normal part of the pram today and she slept! She looks so tiny in it and the straps are a bit overwhelming but hey, it seems to work for her so I think we'll be selling the bassinet. At least we got 8 weeks use out of it.
Time for bed. Missy is sound asleep so that means it's bedtime for me too. Night girls!
Thanks Taurean - i went to the Dr yesterday and got the domperidone / motillium - so hoping it kicks in soon! 170ml is awesome! I am currently getting about 60ml No wonder Tadhg is hungry.
Kosi - we're about the same, just on 5kg and in between 0000 and 000 - i'm trying to get wear out of as many clothes as i can! Have just decided to buy some more newborn nappies though, even though they are getting on the small side, as they are cheaper - so i'll see how much longer we can use them - and save the rest for next bub!
Nicola - i hope your boys are coming right.. poor wee things - and poor you getting run ragged. I'm really trying to enjoy just having 1 at home - it will never be the same again ;-) We'll se ehow we go on the formula - i've decided to try and work hard on BF so we dont need formula, and see how we go.
Sanchez - we have times like that with Tadhg, where he wont sleep - and often i find its due to trapped wind keeping him awake. Could be worth a long winding session to see if it helps V? Also, if you are finding her windy or unsettled, i'd definitely think about milk intolerance - were either you or DH intolerant as kids. If you stop eating milk products and there is an improvement - you'd soon know
Sangie - these bubs and their wind! I hope they work out how to bring it up themselves sooner rather than later!
We're having a tricky day, every time i put T down to sleep he lies there awake or does little cries/groans trying to bring up wind. For some reason its not coming up when we burp him after a feed, or even when we trudge upstairs to rub his back (get a nice big burp and think - ahh!...) about 3 times before he will go to sleep - and he gets cranky because he is tired. Just went to sleep almost 40 mins after going down - phew. Ah well, he has had a couple of 45 min sleeps so he'll be ok.
Day 4 and still sleeping through from 8pm - yay.
Janine - how are you going? You've been quiet, hope the exercise plan is coming together How are you finding time?
Sorry to hear about everyone's windy babies. Frazer is generally pretty good and after watching the Dunstan baby language DVD it kinda helps to know whether he's screaming cause he's over tired or still has wind/ burp to get out.
Taurean- lost 3.8 kgs in the end of the 10 day detox. Since eating have kept 2 off still and am waiting for the 12 week mark to get back the gym for some aerobics and weights. Am really missing it atm. Maybe u should consider some counciling to deal with some of the stuff you're going through atm. I have had 4 sessions now for anxiety and post traumatic birth stuffand it's nice just to vent and get things out. I am lucky they are running a post natal well bing session for new mums out my way. Some of the stuff other Mums have been through/ are going through is horrific. It is nice to get validation from others that it's normal and common and that motherhood isn't all rosey. Lot of mothers you meet just don't talk openly about things that are bothering them outta shame I guess so it's good you are happy to share with us.
Well, Frazer went for his immunisations on Friday and I'm glad DH came because even he had trouble keeping his leg still for the jabs. I think he screamed more from just being restrained than from the atual pain! Had to do his measurements etc and here is a comparison from birth.
BIRTH
Weight- 4.325kg Length- 53cms Head circ- 36cms
8WKS
Weight- 6.78kg Length- 58cms Head circ- 39cms
Obviously he's in the 97th percentile for weight fitting into OO's and crawler nappies!!
Still am undecided on contraception but am thinking that the pill would be the least invasive and not have the affects that some of the others do.
Some one was asking if I had trouble having Frazer. Not so much trouble as a saga of sorts. Short story is had my Implanon out in June last year, waited for AF which did not return until November. Before then I was getting tested for all sorts of things which was when they discovered polycystic ovaries. Was diagnosed with PCOS and told to "just keep trying" no intervention was needed, even though I obviously wasn't ovulating and therefore couldn't get preggers. Changed docs, next one told me I didn't have PCOS and should just wait a bit longer for AF and not to worry. Meanwhile was going mental thinking I'd never have a baby and watching as everyone around me fell pregnant at a drop of a hat. Started doing Fertilty Friend and ovulation tests, taking Vitex tablets anything that would help get things started. Had first AF in November and conceived with Frazer after 2nd AF in December. Extremely lucky but was six months before my body was working again.
Anyway, that wasn't really a short story and am feeling a little emo rehashing it so am gonna go and look at my little boy now so it can all float away outta my head. Not by far, the worst TTC story but emotional for me none the less.
Pooley, F is huge!! I took Vitex to get preg too, I had a progesterone/prolactin imbalance because I was still BF DS. Before I started taking it my LP was only about 5-6 days, but it only took 2 cycles after I started taking it to get preg. And yes, for some reason mums don't talk about the down side of motherhood in public. That is some of the reason that forums like this are good - you can debrief anonymously.
Taurean, we are the opposite with clothes - I need to buy some more warm stuff. I didn't expect her to be this big while the weather was still cold. She is quietly outgrowing the summer outfits before she even gets a chance to wear them. Have you made it to the docs for reflux meds yet? Hope she feels better once you start on that.
Sanchez, V sounds a lot like my DS. He didn't like the pram or car, sometimes he would tolerate it but he wouldn't drift off to sleep in there very often. Sitting the pram back up to the middle setting helped a bit so he could look out.
Hi to everyone else, hope you are all getting some sleep
So it turns out that camping with a toddler and 9 week old is a terrible idea lol. DS was tired and over excited and Amelia was so overstimulated she was screaming. She has always been so settled we didn't expect it. Usually I would call grizzling/crying on and off for 5 minutes unsettled, but this time she was full on screaming and crying for about half an hour and I couldn't do anything for her. She has never been like that. DH managed to settle her after walking around for about an hour.
Apart from that she has been lovely. Is getting into more of a routine with naptime and usually sleeps for 5 hours, then 3 hours then into bed with us at night.
Wow it's quiet in here! Except for you Art, keeping our thread on the front page. Good work
Art - more cute pics on FB of your rug rats! They are so adorable. Love that pic of A in the bath with all the bubbles. Too cute for words! I admire you for taking the kids camping - nice one! Sounds lik it was an interesting trip. LOL. We love a bit of camping but not sure that I'll try to tackle it for a while again yet. We were considering it over the Christmas / New Year break but we might get a cabin (with aircon!) instead.
Pooley - Frazer is doing so well! How is he sleeping? Sounds like a dream child! Congrats on the weight loss too. Didn't you feel great at the end of the detox? I definitely did. So weird though consuming only a lemon and syrupy drink for 10 days can do that.
I've got a shrink who I could see again if I need to from when I went through my depression a couple of years ago but I don't feel the need for him to be honest. I'm very open about my feelings these days (my shrink taught me that) and have talked to family, friends and my mothers group about things and feel pretty stable now. Thank god! I still get a bit anxious but I think that's just my personality - being a perfectionist doesn't work that well when you become a mum. I'm learning that, slowly
Kelly - how is Tadhg doing now? Any more unsettled days? We have many days like that - see below. Has the Motillium kicked in yet? You will definitely notice a difference soon. What sort of pump are you using? I was using a hospital grade double pump I hired from the pharmacy. I've taken it back now and have an Avent manual pump which works quite well but I'm considering getting the Medela Swing electric pump as it is faster.
Hi everyone else!
AFU - my inlaws are staying with us at the moment. My MIL means well but is doing my head in! They leave on Sunday so that will be nice. They've only been here for a week but that's been long enough. I'm so sick of the 'advice' my MIL keeps giving me - such as 'put some honey on her dummy'...WTF?! She then challenges me when I tell her that it's not a good idea. Like I said, I'm sure she means well but I just can't handle it any more. She's stressing me out and annoying the hell out of me. For example, she has been talking to me non-stop for the past hour although she knew firstly that I was watching the end of my fave show, Private Practice, and after that I was typing on my lappy. You can see that I'm busy for the moment so please dear MIL, shut up!! Sorry, rant over.
Izzy had her shots last week and screamed her little lungs out which made me cry What a big wuss I am!! She calmed down after about 10 minutes and then just clung to me for dear life. It was so sad but so cute too. She slept so well for the next 24 hours so it wasn't all bad We chatted to our gp about reflux and she didn't want to medicate her until we had done our day stay at Ngala (parenting support centre) to make sure it wasn't just settling issues. Anyway, Izzy was still really upset over the weekend so I took her back to the doctors on Monday and she agreed to try the medication. Woohoo. She is now on a daily dose of Zoton which is basically an antacid. It seems to be helping a bit already and she has slept for 9 hours straight the past two nights! That may just be a coincidence but she definitely doesn't seem to be in as much pain.
So we've had two nights of 9 hour stretches which is fantastic but it means that my day starts at 4.30am. Bugger! I did go to bed at 7.30 last night though so I managed to get almost 9 hours too so I don't mind too much starting the day so early. I guess I'll just have to do that for a while until we can extend her sleep out a little longer. She is asleep again now but in the sling as she still won't settle in her bassinet during the day so I can't go back to bed. Oh well, at least I have my hands free and hopefully we'll learn a few tricks at our stay at Ngala on Monday to help her settle in her bed during the day.
Izzy also saw the chiro yesterday to see if that can help with her reflux and unsettled periods. Her neck is pretty buggered from the vacuum delivery so they said it will make a huge difference to her sleep once it's fixed, which should only take a few sessions. Wish I'd been to see them sooner!!
Right, enough from me. I'll have to wake missy soon for a feed as I have a physio appt this morning. I have done my neck/shoulders from breastfeeding. Who would have thought?! It's from looking down at Izzy and surfing the net on my iPhone. Tragic.
Hi girls - way too quiet in here!
Taurean - we are doing great now. I took 1 Motilium 3 times per day for the first couple of days, and then thought - what harm can it do to take 2 (the Dr said to me they can prescribe up to 2 pills 4 times per day - so i knew it was ok). and yay! we have milk! Yesterday was our first no bottle day, and it was so good. I was suprised how happy and proud it made me - so much easier than mixed feeding. I don't have much clue how much milk i'm making now, will have to express at some point soon and find out, but obviously just enough
So more milk combined with no dairy for me has made one happy little baby! I'm guessing he was sucking a lot of air before, and the dairy was upsetting him because he is a lot less windy now too. I'm really pleased to be getting on top of the milk situation and getting some sleep before we go through the 3 month growth spurt which must be looming.
We had coffee group yesterday and one of the girls uses white noise for her daughter to sleep - she said even friends babies staying at their place sleep better with it. Could be worth a try for Izzy? Just put your stereo on an off-station to get static going and have it reasonably loud.
I'm a bit of a perfectionist too - it doesn't quite compute when you don't know how to do every small thing, and no-one can even tell you how to fix a lot of situations. I was really overwhelmed the first few weeks especially, next time will be much easier dont you think ;-)
I'm using a pigeon manual pump now, they are quite well regarded in magazines etc and it seems to work ok - or it did when i first got it, which was before the mastitis. Before that i had an electronic avent (borrowed) which was good, but expensive.
I have a sore back too I'm thinking about physio, but now need to go to the chiropractor anyway - so I'm going to turn up tomorrow with my list of ailments! 1. Sore back from feeding and carrying the capsule, 2. Tight right hip presumably from giving birth and 3. sore neck from falling down the stairs... Man that was horrible - on Sunday I was walking down stairs with Tadhg and the washing basket and slipped on the second half (slippery socks on carpet not such a good idea when you can't see your feet) i fell backwards (thank god not forwards) and crashed down. Tadhg screamed and i felt so ill, i wasn't sure if i had hit his head on the stairs or what. DH was at the bottom of the stairs and took T off me. I wasn't sure what to do, but figured feeding him would calm him down, it took him a minute to quieten enough to latch on, poor wee thing - and even then was crying as he fed. I was trying to shh him and relax myself - no doubt he kept crying because i was so stressed too. Turns out he was fine and has no marks, so i think it was just the sudden fall and bumps combined with me squeezing him tight that freaked him out. No more carrying anything else but bub on the stairs! I have a big bruise on my arm and a sore back and neck - chiro, here i come.
Pooley - awesome work on Frazers growth, again - he is doing so well, and such a cutie and go you with the dieting, hope you are feeling well and cleansed now
Art - you deserve a prize for camping with a baby and a toddler! Well done Bring on Christmas holidays and sunshine.
No wonder Tadhg is hungry. 
I'm learning that, slowly
We chatted to our gp about reflux and she didn't want to medicate her until we had done our day stay at Ngala (parenting support centre) to make sure it wasn't just settling issues. Anyway, Izzy was still really upset over the weekend so I took her back to the doctors on Monday and she agreed to try the medication. Woohoo. She is now on a daily dose of Zoton which is basically an antacid. It seems to be helping a bit already and she has slept for 9 hours straight the past two nights! That may just be a coincidence but she definitely doesn't seem to be in as much pain.
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