Holy Moly...........tired Mumma!

[sunshine_sieben]

Ange, SE QLD is not all it's cracked up to be :-) No, we're lucky, most days it's warm, at least outside in the sun. But the air temp is a bit chilly. And nights are cold. Not for long, but for a month or so. I thank god for my feather down doona.
No, I don't make my own pattern but there are some out that you can buy. With or without sleeves... actually I haven't sewed anything in quite some time. It will be interesting... I just can't justify spending $170 on a sleeping bag... Making it myself can cost between $45 and $75 depending on the fabric I buy. And I can't imagine it being too difficult. But I might give up in frustration and hand the project over to my MIL :-)

Have fun catching up. And congratulations on a fantastic night! Now, if you could just sleep yourself... I know what you mean, though. When Maya had an unexpected long strecth of sleep I used to worry and kept checking on her.

Sasa

[Junglemum]

Grrrrrrr where's the missing posts?

[~Trish~]

Hope you had another good night Ange!

Thursday week at 11am suits us fine. I'm not sure where the best place to meet is, it's been a few years since I was a local in the Chirnside Park area.

[Olive]

ange how was last night!!??

trish 11 is ok with me too!! to food court is probably the best place, heaps of chairs, its near the escalators right next to aldi, in the olden days its near where the old stairs used to be!

[zabel]

Hi, ha ha, there's much mirth in my Mum's group about Robin Barker's suggestion in her book Baby Love that teething pains are a bit of a myth.

We are having similar night-waking problems with DD, 8 months. it's very hard when you're at the end of your tether. this is what SEEMS to be working for me, or at least, it's the path that I have started to follow and will keep following. but it aint for everyone.

I don't want to do controlled crying.

However, I am trying to encourage her to sleep longer than 2 hours at a time overnight. If i cd get it to 4 hours i'd be happy.

So her cot is in my room (sorry DH! But between his snoring and her waking, I'd get no sleep if I were with the both of them) ) I stay with her and pat either her bottom (if she lets me) or the cot mattress beside her, to let her know that I am there, though I'm not giving her the boob if I know she's had a feed (sometimes she'll wake up half an hour after the last feed).

I tried co-sleeping with her for a while. this was great in the first 3 months of her life, it felt right in my gut. But this time round, at 7-8 months, it just made her increase the frequency of feeds and made me even more sleep deprived. i know it works for many mums, but it's no longer right for me.

I am seeing a psychotherapist for PND. she suggested that by comforting her in other ways but not giving her the boob when she has recently been fed, but importantly, BEING there, it's widening her world. I'm not sure what that means except maybe that babies do have a surprisingly strong capacity for learning. It's hard when she'll cry for an hour or 40 minutes. I've gone back a few times after this and thought, no, this can't be right. But I know she doesn't need a feed every 2 hours EVERY night (if she's sick, that's different). and while i was prepared to do this in the newborn phase, I don't think it's a good idea for my sanity now.

I've also been advised that food is extremely important in sleep/waking, so we try to fill her tummy with a meal as soon as poss before bed, followed by a BF.

We rang my husband's aunt who is a pediatrician o/s, and she was full of all sorts of advice that just sounded wrong - make the last feed around 7pm a formula feed (no way! that's our special time!), and space feeds - whether BF, formula or solids - four hours apart. i thoguht this was lunacy, apart from jeopardising my milk supply.

anyway, the results of weaning her off boobie for that 1,30am feed that we want to cut out, have been dramatic at times and others, disappointing.

But I guess Rome wasn't built in a day, and we've only just started. last night she settled herself to sleep after a time playing in her cot, as we sat down to dinner. we were in shock because this is unprecedented. it made me think that maybe she's learning that going to sleep is something she can do for herself (we weren't deliberately leaving her alone to get that outcome - i was just hungry and knew she was reasonably happy playing on her own for a while).

but then tonight has been a nightmare prob because we had a huge day in town - lots and lots of stimulation. we'll see how it goes.

I am dying to read Elizabeth Pantley. I really enjoyed Pinky McKay when my bub was a newborn, but now I think her advice is a bit vague for older bubs ... their needs are quite different from a newborn's and I really wish her book would break down her recommendations by stages of infancy.

I have a question. When she's clearly tired and arching her back after I've put her down, she'll often jam herself right up against the short side of the cot. should I just let her settle where she settles, or should I move her into a more comfortable position?

[fionas]

Just to answer your last question about leaving her in whatever position she puts herself in ... my DD does exactly the same. She will jam her head up against the short side or another favourite position is to lie horizontal in the cot with her head jammed against the long side LOL. Or she will fall asleep with her legs out of the bars. Or with her head on the mattress and her knees up against her body with her bum in the air. I leave her to it. I think it's because she slept in a bassinette until she's 6 months old so she actually likes feeling a bit hemmed in.

Even when we put her in bed with us she will sleep horizontally and push us both to the side of the bed with her head against my back and her foot in DP's face. Or with her back jammed up against the bedhead.

[Janie]

I've been told that as long as it looks safe, leave them in whatever possie they make for themselves. It's obviously where they're comfortable, even if it doesn't look that way. Like we go to bed and toss and turn a bit to get comfortable, babies do the same thing.

HTHs

[Junglemum]

I leave her where she lies too.

Sorry been MIA! Had a funeral. Not much on-line time.

So..... next thursday, did we say food court ladies? 11am

[Janie]

Sounds good Ange

[~Trish~]

I look forward to it!

Hope I can find you all, I suppose I'll just look for the ladies with prams LOL!

ETA - I just remembered I have a MCHN appointment at 10am that morning so I may be a little bit late...

[~Trish~]

Hi guys, just bumping this up again. Are we still meeting tomorrow (haven't seen you around Ange, I hope you are OK?)? Otherwise the Melb. meet up is next Monday so we could always catch up then?

[Junglemum]

Hey Trish- We have Gastro here. feeling a little better today but i doubt you gals would want to see us tomorrow. It is not a nice bug, let me tell ya! As well as the fact that i prob wont be able to drag my ass out of the house, still feel like i've been hit by a truck.
Will try for Mon trish, thanks for pm love.

[~Trish~]

Oh no Ange! You poor thing, I hate gastro. Hopefully we'll see you on Monday.

I hope you feel better soon

[Olive]

trish sez and i are still up for the meet!!

[Olive]

so whats the go girls? i feel like crap today been dry reaching this morning not 100% sure i'll make it yet

[Olive]

sorry girls going to pike today too sick

[Janie]

Um, Trish, do you mind if we postpone? I'm sorry hun, I feel really bad, but we were up between 2.30 and 6.30 during the night and I'm feeling the effects. It's been awhile since we've had a night as bad as last night! I hate piking out, but I think it's for the best (ie. my mental health LOL).

Lets make sure we make another date though, for all of us!

[Olive]

ooohhhh trish i hope you saw this thread and havent gone to meet us