Diet & Weight Loss General Support #8

[Mildez]

Sounds like I need to give CK a try.

0 point weight watchers vegies include carrots, cabbage, green beans, Turnips, Zucchini, Asparagus, Lettuce, Mushrooms, Onion, Pumpkin, Cauliflower, Celery to name a few. Then there is 1 and 2 point vegies also. I use to make 0 point WW soup but I lost the recipee so now I use alot of no point vegies a tin of tomato soup, water use to cook the vegies in then add spices. Its not exactly that nice but its not bad either and its a very healthy snack.

leesa just out of interest why be wary of their forums? I've only been on parenting and horse forums but I'm curious.

lilias explained the hole point thing well. My MIL has my books so I can't remember how many points I would be on.

Well good and bad news for me. I weighed myself and I'm 87kilos. Boo but I am under the 90 I thought I'd be. Still up 17kilos from my pre preg weight. 1st goal 85, then 80 hopefully by the end of June (I'm taking your 5kilos goals Lilias on board). I'm pushing myself. Once I get into the 70's it wont be such a push.

Vixstar thats not many calories at all. So I take it the less you weigh or less your BMI is the less you need to loose weight?

Well day 1 yesterday was successful. I did eat a huge dinner (lots of pasta woops) but I was so hungry and I ate so well up until dinner. I didn't put as much meat in mine and didn't eat much sauce and mine serving had hardly any grated cheese on it so I hope by doing that it reduced some calories. Will get on CK later and see what it says about my diet yesterday and how many calories I need but first the vacuume cleaner is waiting for me.

Anyone do Zumba and if so is it worth the $99 for the DVDs from the post office/target?

[ladybird11]

Being a qualified pt and gym instructor I found a lot of bad behaviours were being shared on the ck forums (but this was in late 2009, so it may have changed). And some ppl were saying some absolutely ridiculous things when it came to losing weight, plus there were a lot of posts were other ppl were just plain bullied - it used to be quite toxic.

[MrsFabuloso]

I have had a terrible day. I feel horrible with a throat infection and migraine, I'm so tired because DS2 has decided to wake every 2 or more hours through the night the past few nights, DH is on another night shift (4th in a row) and I am just absolutely shattered. The house is a bomb site and I can't be bothered thinking about food, cooking and calories. Will have to get back on the horse tomorrow.

[Mildez]

Lilias I'm sorry things are so hard and your not well. I hope you recover soon and your DH's run on nights are soon over. Is it 4 on 4 off? I hope he has a string of days off so he can give you a hand with the kids and around the house. Sending you get well vibes and house clean yourself vibes. If only hey?

Well I am having another successful day. I've been so busy I didn't feel hungry until now. Almost Day2 down. FX I can resist all the tasty thing I could have for desert. Its definately my weakness night times. Having lasagne for dinner so I'll be having a microscopic piece and eating a plate of vegies with it instead. Mmmm I'd love a big piece. This sucks sometimes!

[JBM]

hi all

what is a reasonable amount to put on durin preg ? i don't wanna diet while preg but i wanna look after myself. i will do a weigh in on sunday. x

chat soon

[Mildez]

JBM around 10-15kilos seems normal. Sometimes less, sometimes more. I have gained almost 30kilos and am now trying to budge some. I guess it can depend on your size to start with. Thinner women maybe encourged to gain more and vise versa. CONGRATS on your BFP.

[belfie]

JBM -

JBM around 10-15kilos seems normal. Sometimes less, sometimes more.

Yeah that's what i"ve heard too. I only gained 5.5kg with my first (getting GD helped though ) but I was heavier to start. Then with my second I was determined not to gain too much, and put on 10kg (still got GD too lol). Seriously though, without meaning to be discouraging, it can become unrealistic fast if you don't feel well in first tri. I found I was just living on rice crackers and all my thoughts of healthy eating went out the window. So I think it's great to aim for, but don't beat yourself up if you can't do it as well as you'd hoped - main thing is to look after you and your little bean.

Leesa - that's really interesting re the forums. I haven't tried them, so I think i'll steer clear.

Mildez - those small pieces of lasagne will be worth it when you're feeling fit & fab. You can do it

Lilias - so sorry to hear you're feeling crap . It doesn't matter to let it go for a day or so and pick it up when you can. I stop-started a few times at the start of this year (was too hard, DH sick etc) but then finally started - and I've found that forgiving myself for bad day/week/weekend allows me to move on much better & just focus on what I want to do. Coming in here has helped with that too.

Can i pick brains? My DH has just recovered from a vestibular migraine (basically a migrainal state - but instead of getting pain, he had continuous vertigo) which lasted for 4 months. The medication that has finally fixed it has side effects - appetite increase/weight gain (I assume the gain due to the increase). We thought he'd gained weight because he'd been so sedentary while unwell but now we think it's both. So he wants to lose some weight and has signed up on CK and done a few weeks counting calories. The first week he gained .7kg even though he was eating to his calories (possibly still a bit high on the simple carbs tho) but he was very inactive (bad back). He's now been doing more exercise (minimum 20 mins walking a day) and after 10 days, his weight is still unchanged. We both think he needs to be more active. I know everything I read says that guys can lose weight quicker than girls... so do you guys reckon it's the meds doing this? Or would you have any other thoughts he could try? My other ideas are... more protein & legumes, more weight work and maybe try WW points system (he is a bit of a "guy" eater - no offence guys ) and I think the points might work better for him.

AFM it's my weigh-in tomorrow. My osteo yesterday commented I'd lost weight & was looking great YIPPEE (was down ~4kg since I last saw her). Am hoping to crack another milestone ).

[Mildez]

JBM I gained almost 40kilos with my first. I tried my hardest with no2 and still gained 29kilos. Then with my 3rd I gained over 25 by 28weeks (I stopped weighing myself then) Bub is 5weeks now and I have 17kilos to loose to get to my pre-preg weight which although in the healthy range I am still not happy with. I think its a good idea to eat healthy, try not to gain a large amount if your not already thin but if it doesn't happen don't beat yourself up. I got to the stage where although I was dieting whilst pregnant I still gained 1kilo a week. I gave up then and just accepted I was going to gain and had to tell myself once she was out I had the rest of my lief to loose it. So here I am. Trying to get back to a weight I am happy with.

Well I am on Day3 now. I'm really starting to feel it. I woke up starving and have a monster headache. I imagine its withdrawing symptoms from either caffeine or sugar. I'm so determined to plow through it but OMG its hard. I remember in my previous weight loss by now it was starting to get easier. Fortunately my determination is as strong as ever. I know I will be successful when I am as determined as I currently am. I have my daughters presentation tonight where a BBQ is provided and everyone brings a plate so I imagine its going to be a test trying to avoid the unhealthy stuff. I'm a sucker for cakes and nibblies.

Belfie thats great news to hear comments like that from others. I bet you look great. Whats your next milestone? Mine is to get below 85 which should be easy, then 80kilos. I'd love to be under 80 by DHs 30th but its only a month away and I guess when I am BF its a bit unrealistic to loose so much in 4weeks (it would be 6.5kilos)

[belfie]

Mildez - are you eating enough? I agree that 6.5kg is probably too quick while BF'ing. I've lost my 4.1kg over the last 2 months - so right on the 500g/per week loss they suggest while BF'ing. I just wondered when you said you were starving. I'm finding that the weight is coming off well while BF'ing and I'm not having to feel hungry all the time. So saying... you're not me, so it might be quite different for you! I don't want to presume that what goes for me goes for everyone! In terms of my milestones, well I started at 69kg (but i'm just a shortie lol) and I'm now in the 64's which I am SO excited about. I get a reward every 2kg, and I just need a weigh-in with a "4" in it for my next reward (my rule is that I have to get the number ON weigh-in day) but the last few weeks I've been hovering at 65. I was a bit hesitant to put up my numbers because I can see they are less than you (but then I don't know how tall you are either), and I just know I'm too heavy for my height/health (big diabetes risk here, VERY apple shaped and had GD in both PG's). This morning I was 64.2kg... so I'm really really really hoping tomorrow will be similar!

[Mildez]

Belfie I don't know if I am eating enough. Yesterday I had moderate size cereal, large bowl soup, using skim milk for everything. I don't add sugar to anything, a weight watchers bar, 5 weight watchers tarts, 2 little chocolates (roses my DD gave me for mothers day early) I only had 2 cups of water, about 8cups tea (with drop skim milk, no sugar) then for dinner I had a small lasange piece probably about 100gram size, plus heaps of vegies (lots of cabbage, a whole fresh piece huge corn, 1/2 zucchini, brocoli and carrot) When I write it down it seems heaps but I think I am hungry as I'm such a big eater. Its not uncommon for me to polish of a whole batch of anzac bickies or half a whole cake also plus ice-cream, lollies, a few slices of toast, huge dinner etc. I think I am hungry as I go eat so much normally and I guess been the first days my stomach is use to been stretched to the brim. I'm certainly eating enough in quantity but its all low fat. I'm only going by what I've done in the past. I don't know what I'm doing really but trying to stick to the WW plan by memory when I have done it in the past. The last fortnight I've been feeling sad about my appearance. It didn't bother me when I was pregnant very much but now I see others who were pregnant when I was and look at myself I think OMG. I'm a tall girl (178cm) but only a slight frame but I do carry alot of fat on my bones. Yesterday when I weighed myself I was 86.8kilos. My goal is to get to the very low 70's by the end of the year. I'm a bridesmaid October so I want to be a minimum of 10kilos lighter then I am now. As for rewards hopefully DH will notice and reward me. I doubt it but. My rewards will definately be being able to put away the sz 16 and 18 clothes and hopefully get out the 12's and 14's. The hunger is usually bad of an evening although this morning I woke feeling exceptionally hungry. My body is not use to all these vegies which although tasty is almost like a mouth full of hot water. Much different to the creamy pasta, hot chips as side dishes with steak its use to. Oh dear. I've got myself into some bad habits. Can I ask why my husband is a stick and I'm not?

[MrsFabuloso]

Mildez, from what you've put down that you've eaten, it seems to me that you're not eating alot of protien, but you're eating alot of simple carbs (biscuits, bars...) so while you might be eating enough quantity wise, you're not feeling full for long because you're eating the wrong types of foods which aren't filling, like the fruit and veg. Although healthy, it's not very sustaining. Maybe try having some yogurt, nuts, cheese, a smoothie, low fat custard, milk, eggs, lunch meats, chicken ect....added with the veggies and with your meals and snacks. (Like cheese chunks with carrot sticks, a strawberry smoothie with low fat yogurt and milk, stewed apples and low fat custard, scrambled/boiled eggs for breaky...) have I have found doing CK, that I'm eating way too much carbs, and even though it's healthy like multigrain breads, porridge and brown rice/pasta (I have half brown rice/pasta and half white!) that it's too much most days, and I'm not having enough protien. So I will have to start eating things like tuna salads, rather than a tuna salad sandwich, have nuts and dried fruit as a snack rather than a bar, ect...
HTH!

[belfie]

Mildez - I agree with Lilias said. Also I seem to remember you're BF'ing? That's worth 500 extra calories (dunno what that is in points) and it's a LOT! You don't want to run the risk of jeopardising your supply or under-eating, cos that will just slow your metabolism down & make the weight-loss harder. Plus lets face it, what you are doing needs to be sustainable. If you can get onto CK, I reckon that might be useful. I'll list what I've been normally eating (this is kinda average) to give you an idea (and i've been losing at the rate of 500g a week for 2 months now, which is what they recommend for BF'ing).
Breakfast: chai latte (lipton premix thing - it's my "naughty" of choice!) with extra low fat milk added, cuppa tea with brekkie (1/4 tsp of sug & lots of low fat milk), porridge with frozen blueberries & low fat milk (my healthiest meal, I don't add sweetener)
Morning tea: fruit or low fat yoghurt
Lunch: Sandwich rye sour dough, tsp mayo, 1 slice cheese, salad and ham or chicken (i haven't really changed what I'm having for lunch)
Arvo tea: Chai latte, 2 squares dark chocolate, fruit or low fat yoghurt. If out & about maybe a muesli bar
Dinner: whatever I normally have - spag bol, curry, roast... I'm not really changing my dinner.
Supper: milo, maybe piece of toast (yes with butter), fruit, yoghurt or some custard.

What I probably need to do more of is more protein & legumes. I've found I've really had to focus on my snacks, but I've still kept my little treats in there. Occasionaly we've had red rooster & I just try to have more salad, less chips. I was trying to walk 20 mins a day, but I've spent half of the last 2 months with a chest infection so wasn't exercising. I hope seeing my food helps. I usually don't feel like I"m starving and i'm still enjoying my food. Doing it while you're BF'ing makes the world of difference. I'm also doing some health coachign (free through Diabetes Australia if you're high diabetes risk) and she said drink lots of water, helps with fat burning and also reiterated protein & legumes... nuts & seeds a great (just not too many nuts), she said the good fats are great fat burners. I hope you don't think I'm on your case, I just wanna help share what i'm doing - since it seems to be working - in the hope it's helpful for you too . I also think that if you can define your own rewards that's more of a motivator. I find I'm MUCH better about not sneaking more chocolate if I'm nearly at a goal, and honestly (maybe this is just my DH ) but he wouldn't think to give me rewards. If you want to do it, then you should reward yourself i reckon!

[Mildez]

Thanks for your replies Lilias and Belfie. Your advice is more then welcome. As I said earlier I don't know what I am doing as such more trying to reduce my sugary foods and replace them with vegies but now I read what I've eaten there definately isn't much protein happening in there. Eggs and nuts are out of the question but I do love my red meat so will have to get DH onto the steak, silverside and chops. Because we are eating on a budget at the moment its making it a little difficult. Belfie yeap I am a BF mumma at the moment and am likely to be for the next 2years (going on how long I've fed my others for)

Well so far today everything is still on track. Exercise is non existant but I did scrub the shower, bath tub which took an hour and I was puffing and panting and working up a sweat. Looks like cleaning is going to be the only source of exercise I get for the time been. Bub has a cold so we aren't venturing outside and DH has been basically non existant. Eldest DD wants to walk with me (she will run as she is training for xcountry) but DH has been getting home in the dark. The plan is to just walk repeatedly around the block and leave bub at home so atleast if he can't manage her I am close by to come straight home. But DH is too busy doing his own things. Maybe I should just insist if he wants me to look any better then I currently do he will need to assist alittle more.

[JBM]

thanks guys for all your answers in relation to preg weight

last time i weighed myself before this round of IVF/ICSI i was about 88 kg and i am about 176cm, so i am overweight according to BMi and am size 14 to 16 currently.

with the boys i gained 14 kg with first
i gained 16 kg with 2nd
and 19kg with 3rd

i lost 10 kg in first week and kept on the rest !!!!!!
i just don't want to keep getting bigger with each baby as my nana did that and is huge now after 5 pregnancies

i will be weighing on tomorrow and doing cm's as well. bit scary

i have been o.k with eating but not really feeling all that hungry atm and i have been very tired in arvo time which means i dont wanna cook dinner a lot.

chat soon

[belfie]

just quickly, weigh-in today for me... lost .9kg! WOO HOOO nearly half-way omg I'm so excited. And BMI 25.6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am so incredibly stoked.

[JBM]

belfie: woohooo on the 9kg loss. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

afm: well i finally weighed myself yesterday, scared to after IVF fresh cycle, and i have gained........nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.. i can't believe it. i gained 5 kg last time. 3 years ago and it took so so long to lose it. i am stoked.
so i am 89 kg, still overweight but at least not grossly obese. lol

i think i will try to just eat healthy and get some fitness in each day and keep an eye on my weight. 10 kg is the goal.

i have my first scan in 8 days so will find out if i have one baby or two....

[Mildez]

CONGRATULATIONS on the weight loss Belfie. Did you reward yourself? Great BMI Basically what they recommend.

JBM woohoo on not gaining also. I know what a lovely surprise it is when you aren't as heavy as you think you might be. Hope the next 8days goes quickly and you see one ot two beautiful little heartbeats.

Well I got on the scales this morning and have lost 0.4kilos in just under a week. I'm happy with that especially when I was wearing light clothes this morning (I was naked last time) so I have probably lost just under a kilo. Is it just me or do others feel they look and feel fatter when in actual fact the scales say differently? I swear my spare tyre is bigger now then last week but maybe its because I think I have lost a little of my under boob area so it makes my belly sag and look bigger. I'm certainly yet to see or feel results lol. Yeap I am expecting it in a week you know!

So how do I use CK? I have been llocated 2000cals been a BF mummy but can't work out how to add my cup of tea this morning. I managed to find cereal with skim milk but how can I add my drinks?

On some exciting news I have finally got some $$$. Nothing to get excited over but woohoo. Its been 6weeks since I applied for FTB and now I get it starting tomorrow so I can actually afford a little bit of healthy food. DH has been buying the groceries but the budget didn't allow for alot of things I would have liked to get. I was so excited yesterday.

[belfie]

JBM - lol thanks, but it's .9kg not 9kg (I wish it was 9kg hahahah). Can't wait to hear how your scan goes, so exciting and woo hoo on not gaining, that's fab!

Mildez - I did reward myself, a new picture for a big empty wall in the lounge. I was gonna get s'thing more "me" but it ended up being for the house... ah well, every time I look at it I think yay that's 2kg more gone! I was at a party on the weekend and bit disappointed that some of my girlfriends didn't comment, as I think 5kg has made quite a visual difference. Oh well. I know what you mean about the look or feel not reflecting the scales. I think sometimes you suddenly get a big jump in appearance change just at a certain point. But it will happen for you and it's GREAT when it happens!
Re CK, you can add the "ingredients" for your drink all separately (into one meal category" that hasn't been used yet that day, then save it as a meal. So my breakfast is porridge, 70ml low fat milk & 50gm blueberries. So I entered them all in breakfast before adding anything else and then saved it as blueberry porridge with low fat milk. Now I can just select from "load meal" and that breakfast is there. You can do the same with your drinks... i.e. tea, milk, sugar etc. That way you don't have to re-enter the ingredients all the time which would be so tedious. Does that make sense? The load meal & save meal options are next to the meal types (i.e. breakfast, snacks, lunch dinner). Yay for more $$ and being able to buy some healthy food. I find my grocery budget actually drops once I start eating healthier as I cook more from scratch. And honestly celery sticks, carrot sticks & some homemade hommus is WAY cheaper than bought crackers and hommus. Have fun & happy grocery shopping

AFM well we've tightened up on DH's diet and we're hoping to see some results this week. He's realised he was eating too many snacks and they weren't that low cal (even though he wasn't having potato chips or chocolate) - plus they were pretty carby, so he even had celery & carrot sticks yesterday (woo hoo) with a controlled portion of dip yah! So we have fingers crossed he will see a loss this Saturday. And I'm hoping to see the half-way mark!