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    Linzy - that's interesting that you've had a hypo (not fun for you tho!). My endo told me that PG women hardly ever get hypos because of the way the placenta makes you insulin-resistant (i.e. I don't understand the scientific reason behind it). Either way I can understand that you wouldn't want to risk one. How are your levels going now? What did the nurse think? The one thing I want to reiterate is that sometimes the same food on a different day gives you a very different result - depending on whether your tired, busy, stressed, all sorts of factors can influence it. So even when you do everything right, sometimes you'll just cop a good or bad result.

    Well I'm off to the doc on Weds. My fasting levels in the morning are still over 6 (but only low 6's) but it's got me a bit nervous.

    snowchickie79 - I've lost the required amount of weight (more than 10%) and I'm walking every day... but I think I need to focus on eating a bit more low GI, it's just such a royal PITA with all my other dietary restrictions that I was really hoping to avoid it



    I've told my DH that if I get GD again I want a new King Size bed to cheer me up lol.

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    Belfie: I went to see the Diabetic Ob on Monday again and he told me that he doesn't think I had a hypo at 20 weeks, he says it occurs more if ur on insulin and I wasn't positive for GD yet back then. He thinks what might of happened is that I already had a high blood sugar level that day and the softdrink and a chocolate bar just made it higher as he said normally if your having a hypo it starts to get better 10 minutes after something very sweet like softdrink or it could have been low blood pressure or something. I don't know what it was but my gp put me on leave the next week as I work at Bunnings in a huge metal shed with no aircon walking up and down aisles, up and down ladders on a cement floor lol

    I have a couple more issues now with this diabetes, I have only put a kilo on in the last month and they think bubs is a little small, though the radiographer on wednesday said 2.1 kgs at 33 weeks is average. They have upped my insulin again to 13 at night and 19 in the morning, but said if my fasting bsl is under 5.5 to gauge my own insulin requirement. So this morning it was 5.3 so I had 15 units, had my breaky, 2 hour post breaky level was 7, so it worked today yay

    I have heard that stress can affect your blood sugar levels..if this is really the case then there is no wonder I can't keep mine stable. I have alot of stressful things going on in my life, not just the pregnancy!

    The Diabetic Ob, told me that my thyroid blood tests were fine, he's waiting on the Type 1 LADA result to come through as he's not seen someone so thin with diabetes before he called me a 'pleasant surprise'. He's just a little concerned that I'm not gaining weight, and bubs is a little small and at this time I should be gaining the most weight. I'm eating double what I was a month ago, but I'm always starving! And I'm not working or excersizing so I should be gaining some weight. I gained 16 kilos with my son, this time I've gained 10 and slowed right down..basically since I started with the insulin..weird.

    I have to ring the Diabetic Educator every 3 days with my bsl's and insulin results, and weigh myself once a week now to see if I gain anything. Bub's is ok though! She's squirming around 24/7

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    Belfie - my fasting levels never went back below 6 after DS was born and during the first tri with my second pregnancy they were always 6-6.5 fasting. But as the pregnancy went on, they dropped down to normal and I didn't get GD. I am not sure why, but I am not looking a gift horse in the mouth lol. I hope that is a bit of comfort for you - just because they are a wee bit high now doesn't mean the worst.

    Linzy, when I had hypos they didn't last long once I had some sugar - only about 10 minutes to come right. They are scary though - the first one I was out in town in in the space of 5 minutes I went from fine to sweaty and weak and my vision and hearing was fading out - I think I was only seconds from passing out but my friend realised what was happening and helped me sit down and eat something.

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    Ah Artechim, you're made my day - thank you thank you! cos that is honestly the most reassuring thing I've heard. Feeling much more relaxed now.

    Linzy - I reckon you've been getting exercise at work! I do a desk job and it just doesn't compare to how much you wouldn've been walking at work. I also didn't put on any weight at all once I got GD and my obs wasn't worried - but I wasn't as skinny as you either (I only put on 5.5kg in my PG). It does seem weird that you're always hungry, do you feel like you're eating enough? Sounds like they're monitoring you well though which is great. Btw, which side of Melb are you? I'm out in Vermont... figure I shoulda looked for you at our Bunnings tehehe.

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    Hahaha I WAS getting exercise at work (especially my mouth - customer service, great for chatter boxes ) but I went on leave at the end of October because of the 'wobbly day' haven't worked since. I was going for nice walks before xmas but then my pelvis started hurting too much so can't really walk far now. Even around the shopping centre for an hour is enough to put me on my a**** for a day.

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    I have my GTT tomorrow

    I have been feeling off for a few weeks now and well - I have been monitoring my sugar and it seems pretty high. Fasting sugars are 6.0-6.9. That and the fact in 1 month I jumped 4kg!

    Strangley enough, at the begining of the pregnancy I felt fine and my fasting sugars were about 4.3-4.4.

    I have cut out all sugar and bad fats (like butter) and gone back to diet drinks and heathlier foods. Crossing fingers this works.

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    6 - 6.9 fasting bsl would make my diabetes nurse have a heart attack, it does sound high, i think they like it to be under 5.5 (well throught the Northern Hospital here in Melb they do) Goodluck with your test!! I got alot of support from the girls in here over the last few weeks (thanks ladies ) so keep us informed!

    It does make you feel ill, its hard to explain how you feel tho. I started with a dry tongue, cracked lips, tiredness but not being able to drop off to sleep, thirsty and just blah when ever I felt my sugars were high. I started feeling like that at about 17 weeks but when they did the test at 17 weeks it was normal, same thing happened with my son..it was like I was getting the symptoms but it wasn't showing up in my bloods. They eventually found it at 36 weeks with my son, and this time at 28 weeks but this time I'm on insulin.

    I have cut out weetbix all together, bananas and peaches and my bsl's with 19 units of insulin in the morning and 13 at night are now stablized..only took a month of insulin tweaking and 7 weeks of diet monitoring.

    And I am 90 per cent energetic! I have been happier and socialising with my inlaws and family again instead of hiding in the bedroom in a bad mood. I'm also not eating every hour like I was when my sugars were high. Now I can eat every four hours no problems..what a change it's made to finally get them down. I had no idea how unwell i was feeling both physicaly and mentally for that whole 7 weeks!

    So my big no no's are weetbix, bananas, peaches and spaghetti

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    Oh and I'm negative for LADA!!! I burst into tears when the endo told me, and he asked me why I was crying and I said *ahem* 'It means I can still drink beer' that sounds horrible but thats just what flew out of my mouth I'm not an alcoholic or anything I just really love a cold one on a hot day..and for the last 3 months hubby has been brewing his own and I haven't been able to enjoy any :/

    Also my Ob (not my Endo/Diab/Ob) says that bubs is perfectly fine size wise, and that he isn't concerned about my not putting weight on. I've put 10 kilos on he reckons thats enough.

    I also got my referral for my c section today, so I'm guessing they do c sections at 38 weeks? In which case..I meet my lil girl in 3 weeks! Argh!

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    linzy - yay for the neg for LADA & for stabilised BSLs! not sure when they do c-sections...they offered me an induction at 38 weeks but i refused until i was at term. not sure if it's the same for c-sections?

    krikkit - good luck with your GTT tomorrow!

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    Linzy, I know what you mean, I died when I saw that my BS was 6.9 this morning. I am clearly doing something wrong. I love love love peaches - so maybe thats my problem, I did have one yesterday.

    I had been diagnosed as type 2 diabetic, pre pregnancy - but this managed to clear up when I had gastric banding. I lost 30kg. Unfortunatley during the IVF process and now pregnancy most of my weight has come back - as you cannot have the gastric band tight during pregnancy or if you go under anaesthetic.

    Seems my diabetes has reared its ugly head!

    I am sure I will come up 100% for gestational, Whats the process now? did your OB put you on insulin? or did you have to see someone else?

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    Oh sounds like a rough road you've traveled:/

    One of the girls on here has mentioned that the morning bsl is more based on hormones than what youve eaten and my endo told me that too so it's not all your fault!! hehe but yeah peaches and bananas were baddies for me, yet i can eat a handfull of strawberries? weird!

    The process that I've been through 4 times in the last 4 years has been the glucose tolerance test where you fast overnight, then have blood taken, then drink the sugary drink, an hour later have blood taken, then another hour have more blood taken.. I think it might be a lil different in different states and hospitals but I've had the same tests in both WA and VIC

    If your positive they first try to control your sugars with diet, but I have heard most women nowadays end up on insulin. I ended up seeing a Diabetes Educator, Diabetes Dietician and Diabetes Ob/ Endo who actually most of them all told me the same things, it was the educator that put me on insulin tho. But again it might be done differently in different states and hospitals maybe if its a private hospital it might be different again.

    And I just noticed your in Perth! I moved over here two years ago and am very homesick! I am missing King Edward Hospital the most as the staff, obs and system was free, fast and very personal. Here the hospital I go to is also free but blood tests and scans aren't! I wait between 2 and 4 hours for one appointment I hate the hospital I'm at at the moment but I only have a few weeks left

    sloane: Not sure if it's 38 weeks, i'm hoping it is so I can hold my lil one earlier but will find out Monday what the date is

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    Hi All. I wrote a bit of a first time rant, but I took to long to post it and it was lost

    Anyway, Hi. I've been reading this thread for a little bit. A week ago I had my GCT, and then got the call saying I needed to follow-up with a GTT. From my reading on-line (and my knowledge by being a medical scientist) I knew that there was a good chance I had GD. By getting a high reading on the GCT I knew there was a high chance I was not one of those lucky people who come up negative in the GTT. And I was right. My fasting was 5.2, which my doc was fine with, but my 2 hr was 11.2! So now I wait to see the Diabetics Educator at the Angliss and go through the process of obtaining readings and trying to control my numbers with my diet. My doc's quietly indicated there is a chance I'll go on insulin. The way she said it and the context of the conversation - I think she thinks I definately will. She wants my levels to be under 7 (she told me the educator would expect more, but that my doc was fine with <7). The question I have, is with such a high BSL as 11.2 in the GTT, am I going to be able to get it below 7 through diet alone? I'm not optimistic.

    I realise some women on here really want to carry their baby to term, but I actually like the idea of it coming a little earlier (if need be). I might only be 29 weeks, but I already just feel so uncomfortable (first pregnancy!!). The thought of it being 8 or 9 weeks away instead of 11 or 12 feels more bearable.

    I guess I will find out more on Monday followed by the BSL monitoring. Fun times ahead!

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    Hi Crums, sorry to hear your in the same boat as us :/

    I don't know if having a high 2 hour post GTT test is an indicator of how you will do with your diet. As I only got a 9 two hour post drink with the GTT test and I ended up on insulin. It's really different for everyone, I can eat some foods that would send other people's bsls through the roof. Yet I have a banana or peach and mine sky rocket. Some people can't eat carbs with alot of sugars, or fruits because of the sugars..and sugar in general like icecream and lollies. It's very hit and miss and it's taken me since the 20th of December to stabilize my sugars, even with insulin and good dieting. I was put on the insulin because my diet wasn't working and I was basically starving myself to get the levels they wanted. In actual fact the injecting of insulin doesn't hurt me at all, it's less painful than the finger prigging I do 4 times a day. I was terrified of being put on insulin, it seems to be more common nowadays to get you on the insulin quicker and some docs (i've heard in the last few weeks) will put some preggy women on insulin as soon as they get a positive GTT.

    Good luck with your tests and stuff in the next few days/weeks, I'm always popping in so I can offer you all of my experience with GD, even if you probably know alot of it already being in the medicine field yourself There is alot of support here so ask any questions you have.

    I was kinda hoping they would induce me due to my sugar levels for this pregnancy but it was really only so I could hold my daughter sooner. But altho my levels were high it's done nothing to my daughter's size and I'll be meeting her in 3 weeks via c section..so thats two weeks earlier than expected ... I can't complain

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    crums - my post GTT reading was around the same but i managed the GD by diet for a number of weeks before going on insulin. i don't think it's an indicator as such because a glucose drink isn't really representative of what a good diet will do to your sugars, more how your body copes with an overload of glucose - if that makes sense? a non-diabetic person will be able to regulate their BSL even with a big does of glucose but with the GD you can't. insulin comes into play when your body can't stabilise your BSL with even a regular diet. i *think* that's right - but obviously i'm not a professional! good luck on monday

    linzy - only 3 weeks to go - how exciting!!

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    Thanks Sloane *wobbles belly*

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    Just popping in to see how you are going Krikkit? and Crum?

    I just got put on another kind of insulin (now I'm on three kinds) with an extra 2 injections a day (four in total) as my 2 hour breakky and dinner bsls are rising again. My endo told me that my rapid acting insulin isn't rapid enough and isn't bringing my levels down quick enough so he's given me another rapid acting one called Novrapid..it's like a pen and this one actually hurts to inject!

    Ah well...and...I will be meeting my little girl on 25th Feb thru c section! The ob measured me and I'm measuring 33 weeks instead of 35, I'm not gaining any more weight and with the diabetes he thinks it's safer to make my c section a little earlier. I'll be 37 weeks and 5 days.. so not too bad, earlier than the 39 that he was originally going to do.

    My box of chocolates that I have been collecting (from xmas and now future valentines day from Hubby) is quite BIG..I can't wait to munch on them while I'm recovering!

    Hope your all feeling well and staying out of trouble

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    Hi, Sorry for the delay, had a lovely long weekend away at the in-laws (well I dont think lovely is quiet the word). Anyway!!

    Had my little diabetics education class last monday. I didn't find it to be particularly new information. So I started my finger *****ing and testing that night and everything went well. While away had a couple of higher readings over 7. I had a follow-up appointment today and the diabetics educator was impressed with my numbers and thought that as long as I didn't have anymore high numbers I would be able to get away without needing insulin.

    However, when I came home today and had a small lunch (left over pasta and a little tub of custard) after 2 hours my reading was 3.7. From what i've seen on the net, this is rather low!! I had a afternoon snack, so i'm hoping that everything has evened out nicely. Have been booked in with the Endochrinologist for the begining of March.

    Not really enjoying this limbo each week (as I'm sure no one would) and certainly not enjoying having to remmember what time I ate and what time I have to test!!

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    Hi Crums

    Wow 3.7 is pretty low!! How did you feel? I start feeling ill at 4.5 specially in the mornings. The diabetes educator and obs I see would definetly have a heart attack of a 3.7. But everyone is different, because I have had the high sugars for months a 4.5 makes me real dizzy and nauseas but I reckon if I was having 7's or 8's maybe a 3.7 wouldn't feel so bad..

    Maybe call the diabetes educator and let her know you got a 3.7, I don't know whether all the hospitals have the same blood sugar levels they like to see with their patients but yeah I wouldn't let it get any lower than that.

    I had my diabetes ob appointment today and have had my insulin bumped up another 4 units as my morning levels are shocking a small serving of porridge which I was getting a 6, 2 hours later has now crept up to a 10.3 today even with the new rapid working insulin they gave me last week. If it were something sugary they said it would make sense but the ob said he just can't explain why it's still not working so to try extra insulin and 'see how we go' again. Haha ah well I only have another 10 days of injecting myself and then it's all over

    I hope you can control your blood sugars Crums with diet alone that would be such a relief! Goodluck with it I may not be on here for the next few days - got a uni assignment to finish before Bottlebrush arrives, but will pop in soon to see how your doing

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