My right of reply and I?ll make it reasonably brief.

There was a specific reason I wrote this below when I posted this thread:

?My question is unusual and I would ask only people respond to it who agree with my proposition because they have experienced similar treatment I?m about to describe. I think it is pointless to be responded to from people who have been happy with what they?ve received from their IVF providers?.

And that reason was my hope to avoid exactly what has happened which is a plethora of attacks on my views, I could of read those opinions on many other threads. I know these views are widely held, it is counter opinions I am seeking.

Briggy?s Girl asked: ?Are you seeking intelligent debate and experience??

My answer is no, I don?t want to debate anyone; I only want to read about experiences that share my basic experiences which concerns poor IVF treatment others may have received.

The purpose of my vehicle/mechanic analogy eluded most of the respondents, so let?s try a different one. Imagine this is a cooking forum and I had asked for a recipe to cook roast pork, a modest enough request.

But instead of reading about recipes for cooking pork, my posting I had enraged the Jewish forum members who then angrily chastised me for eating filthy pigs and then went on to browbeat me with how to make blintz?s instead.

Put simply, in a country that prides itself on the principal of freedom of speech, this is my thread and if you can?t answer the question posed ?? don?t say anything.

It?s just possible that people believe me when I say that I?m not doing this to anger anyone, I simply have a legitimate right to voice a countervailing view to the common orthodoxy and my view is that in my experience IVF doctors, their staff and their culture of communication are appalling.

I read of the years some of you have been searching for infertility solutions and they are nothing less than awful to read, it?s precisely because of these accounts and especially as some of your cases that the numbers are so high, that I?m hoping to elicit alternative views.

So please, respect my right to ask what I did and to Redlady who wrote:

?I hope you seek a counsellor that may be able to help you with your anger it?s not good to bottle it up inside?.

Oh I know what I want and it isn?t to be placated with a cup of tea and a hug.

I want a pit-bull like Senator John Faulkner to have a Senate enquiry on the entire IVF sector and when he exposed what I believe is there, I?m absolutely certain that many of these doctors would be quivering from the backlash that would come from multiple quarters but mainly from the couples who have endured their neglect.

And to those who felt free to get affronted at my post and then give me a serve, below are some extra perspectives and in contrast to what doctor?s charge, these are free ?.



1. Analogy. A resemblance of relations; a likeness between things.

2. ?God would not have made sheep had he not wanted them to be shorn?.

Lloyds of London CEO referring to non-disclosure to new insurance ?names? who brought in to cover the yet to be announced Exxon Valdez, asbestosis and silicone breast implant claims that when announced, ruined thousands.

3. Stockholm Syndrome.

A psychological response sometimes seen in abducted hostages, in which the hostage shows signs of loyalty to the hostage-taker, regardless of the danger or risk in which they have been placed.