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    hey ladies & gent

    just a few questions

    can progest pessaries make af late??

    and also when do you think i am due for period, i dont know wether i am due today or tomorrow??



    here is how it went

    got af on the 12th but was after lunch so count d1 as the 13th
    clomid cd4-8 which was the 16th-20th
    pregnyl injection 23rd
    iui on the 25th

    so it was 2 weeks ago today that i had iui done, so am i due for af today or tomorrow, normal cycle is 28days???

    i have had signs of af coming for around 3-4 days now and usually when i get the signs they usually come within a day or so, but they havent come yet?? i have every sign that there coming just no blood?? i am still using pessaries, on my last one tonight, just wondering weather its cos of pessaries or cos i have my dates wrong???

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    Hi
    The proges. will very possibly make AF late as it is when prog levels drop that the endometrium sheds and if your levels are still high it will stop that process, although i had iui and was absoultly certain that i was not pregnant and was getting alot of cramping, bloating, sore BB and i was pregnant (sorry but it did end in an ectopic) but even with my first child i was certain AF was coming so you never know ?? The symptoms can be very similar, plus prog pessaries made me cramp so who knows. Can you contact your FS? and have you stopped the prog and when? Sorry just read your still taking the pessaries so that would most definately hold off Af

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    thanks for the quick reply scooby and sorry to hear about your eptoic pregnancy

    so if i use my last pessarie tonight, when should af arrive?? how long does it take to get pessaries out of your system??

    i was pretty sure fs told me to use pessaries till either af arrived and if it doesnt arrive and get bfp i have to be on the for the next 11 wks??

    if i did preg test would pessaries give me a false positive?? sorry probably silly question just never been on pessaries before so dont know how they work. dont think i could actually do a test, just couldnt handle seeing another negitive, would rather wait for af to arrive.

    just hoping they are holding off coming till dp gets home which is tomorrow, so he can be here to help pick up the pieces, really couldnt handle getting af while dp is away working, so hopefully if there going to come they will come tomorrow while he is home, so i wont be alone to face it.

    thanks again scooby for your reply

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    The pessary wont give a false reading on a HPT.
    Does your clinic do BT's to confim pg? Cause I would not stop taking the pessarys jic if you are supposed to take them for the first 12 weeks of your pregnancy.
    I would call the clinic and confim. Or maybe do a HPT to see...
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    thanks for that rufalina

    if af isnt here by tomorrow i will do hpt and if its positive, i will go get fs to give me script for more pessaries.

    just so scared, i really didnt want to do a hpt cos i dont think i could handle seeing another negitive, well at least dp will be home to help me make it through the day if it does come back negitive.

    thanks again for that

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    Yeah i agree with Rufalina i wouldnt go off them jic, check fo BFP first. The TWW is just horrible its such a rollercoaster espicially with all the extra hormones and your very brave handling it all while DP works away, i remember those 2 weeks and i was a basket case im sur DH wished he was working away at that time Hang in there and i really hope its a BFP for you. The prog wont give you a false positive but i see you were having IUI did you have pregnyl shots and when was your last one because they can very certainly give you a false positive, the funny thing was with my ectopic i got BFN with HPK probably because my HCG was low, but i think the only way is a blood test id be calling your FS. Good luck

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    thanks scooby

    well i got a bfn on the test i just done

    is there any use me using my last pessarie tonight, seen as though not pregnant?

    god i HATE THIS

    the worst part is yet to come. i have to look my dp in the eyes tomorrow when he gets home and tell him that it is all over
    i fear the look in his eyes cos the guilt that i feel, its cos of ME that he hasnt got a child yet, how can i make it better for him when all i do is bl**dy fail
    he has so much trust in my body but yet i keep on failing, month after month and yet he is still here loving me?? i feel so bad.

    i wish he was here right now, i am scared and i am angry and i am hurt. i wish i didnt have to be alone tonight

    sorry about this

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    M2C, I'm really sorry I missed your thread earlier in the day.

    Yes, the pessaries will delay AF and it will only come a day or two after you cease using them. However, you must continue to take them until you have the BT results in case you are pregnant and the HPT isn't picking it up. The chance is small, but you'd never forgive yourself if you lost the pregnancy early because your progesterone levels weren't up to scratch. Just get a few more to carry you over until your BT results, or speak to your nurse or FS if you are unsure.

    The pessaries wont affect the HPT result. We were in exactly the same position this week and I would work on the basis that you aren't pregnant and anything else is a bonus. I'm sorry if that sounds blunt, but that's the likely scenario. However, there will always be more opportunities for you and DH in future cycles. Today is today, but there are many tomorrows.

    Now, moving on to your other statement that you are to blame and so on. It is not your fault one bit - OK you have fertility issues but you didn't choose them. Millions of other women have the exact same set of problems as you, just as millions of people have diabetes, or asthma, or dandruff! I so know what you are talking about because I am the reason that DW and I are doing IVF, but in the end you just need to suck it up and accept that this is your lot and that you can overcome it. We are all unlucky to be doing AC, but we are also very lucky that the technology now exists, and lucky that we are healthy enough to do it.

    Your DP sounds ace. He loves you, and has faith in you. So what if it takes you a bit longer to conceive than some other people? You've done it once, and you'll do it again. In the words of Monty Python, "cheer up you miserable bugger".

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    It isnt over til the witch sings, but I am like you - get very disheartened with BFN's so close to AF due Please dont feel like you have failed. I am sure your dp wont blame you, its not intentional afterall. I think the reason he is still there loving you month after month would be because, as much as he wants a child with you, he truly loves you unconditionally

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    thanks heaps for that slyder & Mel1977

    i am not having a bt done, fs has never asked to do one on any of our cycles including this one, he just said come back if we get positive hpt??

    i am still not bleeding but i honestly feel like i have af just with no blood iukwim??
    i have pains and have migrain which is all normal when i have af, but i just dont have blood yet??

    thanks again for your lovely replies

    if we had money i would be doing ivf staight away, but with our income we wont be doing it for a few yrs and we dont have private health cos we cant afford the mthly repayments, plus to be honest we would never have a few thousand up front to pay for ivf even if we would get most of it back, its a matter of having the money there first which we would never have. oh well not to worry tomorrow has got to be better? right?

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    M2C
    So sorry its sooo hard on your own and im sorry yiour on your own tonight. You really should have a BT before dropping the prog. Have you any other fert specialists nearby, beacuse i could be wrong but i think they should be monitoring you closer and are you just having clomid or do you have shots as well, there is alot more they can be doing other than IVF. I have PCOS as well and i know it can cause dramas. I have just started a homeoepathic approach with she sends over emails of what to do (im studying it as well only just 2 years in) but she has had the same results as IVF using homoeopathics and the treatment costs all up about $70-$80 ( you just buy the remedies yourself). This is my 2nd cycle since my eptopic and i am already in a 28 day cycle and ovulted the 1st month after my op so i ws pretty impressed. I can send you the info if you want to have a read through and see what you reckon it is a bit difficult to understand and one of the remedies must match your symptoms, the good thing is it wont do any harm, it either works or it doesnt.
    Hope you get big hugs tomorrow and i wouldnt worry im sure DP loves you more than ever for being so strong and going through all this.:hugs:
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    M2C, if your FS doesn't want a BT talk to them about when to stop the pessaries.

    Re the dollars up front, we had this great financial plan all worked out and were just starting out on the path to saving heaps, but the plan was subsequently buggered up by IVF and my ute's gearbox crapping itself, and all the usual things on top like insurance, rates and whatever. All we do is put it on the credit card and pay as much of it off as we can per fortnight. Through sacrificing a fair bit of our fortnightly income, we knocked over the first cycle pretty quick. Obviously it depends on your individual means, but if you can get a credit card, combined with some savings, and lots of discipline (ie. pay each cycle off before starting another) then perhaps this is something to consider?

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    thanks scooby
    my fs is 200klm away and he is the closest, my cycle i was only on clomid and had i pregnyl shot before getting iui done, and i have been on pess since i had iui done which was 2wks ago today and all he said was if af arrives stop using pessaries or if i get bfp come get more pess as i would of needed to be on them for 11wks and that was it, he never mentioned bt or follow ups or anything but then he has never done that and i have done 4 attempts of iui with him?? might pm you in a few weeks about homoeopathics just need to be in a better frame of mind first before i start thinking about ttc again, might wait till after christmas then get back into things, thanks so much for caring and being so sweet

    slyder i know what you mean about having a big plan and then things get in the way, we are truely struggleing week by week, so any sort of money i could put away would most likely be used on dd then ttc, as its not often we get to just go buy something for the sake of it, so when we do get $50 here or there we usually try and do something together with like a litte outting for the day iukwim. seeing a smile on dd face is worth more then another failed cycle, we struggle to pay for the iui's we have had done, and i feel so bad for spending that money and then have nothing to show for it, can you just imagine the guilt i would feel if we done ivf and failed, iui's cost a few hundred and i feel so bad, where as ivf is a few thousand i dont think i could handle it. maybe in a few yrs when we are better of financially i will think differently but at the moment cos we are living pay check to pay check its just a little hard to swallow knowing there is so much money involved

    thanks again to you both for replying its nice to know that you guys are here

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    I know what you're saying. A few years ago we would've been in all sorts trying to pay for this lot. You're still young, don't panic.

    Anyway, glad to be of service and it's good your DP will be back soon

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    thanks slyder your such a great help

    and yeah dp will be home in like 14hrs lol not that i am counting or anything,

    he will only be home for the night but then has to go back the next day, which will be hard to say good bye, but it sweet that he is driving all this way back just to be with me for the night, plus i think he needs to be here to as i just spoke to him on the phone and told him what was going on and he started crying, which just broke my heart even more, i have been with dp for a few yrs now and this is the first time he has cried about it
    why cant i give him a baby

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    M2C
    Im so glad DP is home today to be with you, get lots of cuddles and TLC, it so hard not to believe your letting the team down when i had my ep i apologised to Dh for being so useless, its so frustrating when your body wont do what its meant too. I fell first attempt with DS and cant believe im now 2.5 years in for number 2 its crazy. I would be more than happy to help you when ready and i was thinking last night if you want the remedies i have stock bottles(big ones) so i could send you some of mine and then it wouldnt cost you anything and at least you could give it a go, so let me know when your ready id be more than happy to do that. Take care :hugs::hugs: Come on here and talk anytime you needwhen Dp goes back

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    scooby

    thanks sooooo much for your support over the last few days, it means alot to me

    it was pretty hard being here alone going through it, but coming on here reading what you had to say made it better, so thank you i wish i could return the favor.
    when we do decide to start ttc again i will pm you and ask you a few questions about homeoepathic and what it actually is, and how much and how it works, but like i said once i am ready to face it all again i will email you and we can have a chat.

    thanks heaps for everything

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    No probs and no need to return favours i had so many people help me out on this site when i had my ep and i think it why i recovered so quickly, it just helps to have people going through similar things. I really hope you are doing ok, you are doing the right thing giving yourself tthe time you need, but dont be a stranger on here keep in touch it really helps to talk through your feelings without feeling like your being judged. Take care sweetie

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