Alice: Yay on the snowbub! Broken sleep has always been a pg symptom for me, esp early pg. Hope it means something good for you too (not just stress!)
T-Hopes: how're you incubating? (I mean how are you?!!!)
India's mum: glad your dog is better. My parents' old dog was very ill and seemed on the verge of needing to 'go to the vets' but he rallied and had another few good weeks before we said goodbye. Hope your doggie gets a little more quality time too.
Saffy: good news on the $$ for the next cycle. Thanks for the good wishes.
Alice - Wonderful news! You deserve some good things after your shocking week. Sleeplessness is one of my biggest pregnancy symptoms so maybe that's why you are not sleeping so well. I have often ended up in a bath at one in the morning trying to relax
Crafty - good to see you are feeling better. I didn't mean to insinuate that having more kids made the pain any less as I'm well aware it's not. I just didn't want you to look back on your childbearing years and remember this past year and it's heartbreak more than the earlier years and their joy. I fully understand about the shock of losing one around 12 weeks because I've been there 3 times now. You really think it's going to make it when you get that far.
Alice - Whoo so happy you got a snowbub too Glad the sight was useful. The TWW is agonising but I seem to have figured that the symproms start later with IVF so try and stay calm, hard I know especially when you are not sleeping well. Pleeeease can I have your cake recipe . Have fun with your godson.
T- Hope- That is great numbers fo this early, awesome news.
Crafty - Glad to see you are feeling abit more positive.
Saffy - Awesome news that you can start your cycle soon. What meds are they giving you?
India'smum - It is so hard to focus on weight loss when so much of our focus is on TTC. I managed to drop 3kg since my last m/c. My FS said you are more likely to conceive if your body is in a state of weight loss rather than a state of weight gain (seems really illogical to me but that's the facts.) Good luck. So glad your dog has picked up too, I hope she stays well for a long while. My cruise is from Brisbane to Vanuatu and Neumia(?) for a week.
Ferrals- Been thinking about you all day.
AFM- Bit excited to day. My boobs have gone all veiny, I've been crampy and I have been nauseaous on and off all day. Don't want to get my hopes up too much but will test again in the morning
Ferrals?? I have to go at 4pm - hope we hear from you soon and holding my breath that it is good news xxxxx
Sunbeam, will PM you the recipe - I LOVE it and have made it a few times now and each time it gets better Did I mention I was a cake addict? It is my biggest weakness...sigh. I was thinking about you and the cruise and thinking how nice it will be for you to kick back with your lovely pg belly on a relaxing holiday. I'm so hopeful for you, keep testing 'cause I'm sure you're going to get a BFP. How're you finding the Clexane injections? Damn but that needle seems thick or blunt or something after the FSH injections! Still, I think it really helped me last time and I hope it's helping you too. Go the veiny boobs, cramps and nausea!! Fingers crossed
India's Mum - thanks, T-hopes and Possum both said the same thing - I hope you are all right! I was told not to have a bath so haven't done that and it is my usual way of relaxing so I am missing it. Hopefully tonight will be better.
Saffy, go the good kama!! That's great news about the next cycle not costing you much, we need all the help we can get with IVF it is so expensive (much worse in the US though so I'm grateful for that). Yah you can start soon x
Thanks T-hopes, I saw you have posted in the PAML thread with a new ticker - lovely to see you there after all this time and I hope a few more of us will be joining you soon (I was stalking Ferrals to see if she posted there first).
OK ladies, I have to go to Sydney now. Ferrals, you have lots of love from me, been thinking of you all day and hoping for the best. Will be back tomorrow to hear your news it is good. xx
I've been lurking since my first post but every time I go to post something I end up logging off because I hate labelling myself "LT TTC + MC", I don't know what it is, every time I see the heading I'm on the verge of bursting into tears.
Grats to those ladies who got their BFP recently and to those who received unwanted AF.
Thanks for everyones replies, I know I could go by myself but I feel in a way it's pressuring him. I know I can put my foot down and pretty much get my way and force him to do what I want but I've been very cautious not to do that in regards to another baby. I've asked him over and over if he's sure he wants another baby and the answer is always yes, I don't know, I'm just confused at the moment.
I'm very close to giving up, I've been stalking a friends wedding pics looking at my SIL who's pregnant with her 5th, I hate that she's pregnant, part because "why isn't it happening to us" but also for other reasons, which aren't really important but I'm finding it increasingly frustrating. DH's parent's are coming from Brisbane to stay with us at the end of the month and I know oldest SIL's pregnancy with be the hot topic.
I hate AF, I'm dreading the thought of it coming in 8-9 days. I'm at the point where I want to give up and have my IUD put back in just so I don't have to deal with it.
I hate that I have to keep our TTC secret from my mum because she doesn't approve. Every time I know she's coming I have to hide everything, delete the internet history and so on, why can't I just say "mum we're trying for a 3rd and if you don't like it, that's just tough!", why do I let this woman control me!
Sorry I'm ramblingly here, well I started vitex but just one tablet a day until this bottle runs out then I'll go to the 3 a day. Also looking into royal jelly and maca powder onto of my black mores conceive well gold. Also changed my DH onto menevit instead of his performance daily, was going to try sperm max but the lady said menevit might be better to improve quality considering he's over 30, it was also cheaper which is a plus. Also getting him to cut out his daily coffee milks, he's really reduced his smoking on the champix so hopefully that will stop completely very soon. Now all I have to do it get him off coke and for me to lose some weight, which is a whole new set of hurdles.
Sorry it's turned into a bit of a novel
The luckiest of lucky and stickiest of sticky to everyone.
Hi girls thankyou so much for thinking of me it means a lot.
Anyway so far there is no sign of any abnormalities bub looks normal and healthy the u/s tech said the heart is still a little small to see everything but so far it looks normal there were no extra fingers on the hands and the feet look normal to one was a little hard to see bub wouldnt stop figiting which is a good sign.
The little bugger wriggled and moved so it wasnt easy to have a look but she said the next scan on the 18th should be more accurate.
The bub was measuring a few days behind my 7 week u/s dates but she said there is always room for slight variations a millimeter or two can mean a few days on u/s so i am relieved.
We need to see the geneticist to be find out if its possible that bub can still have SLO without obvious abnormalities which is a scarey thought but we will cross that bridge when we get to it but for now we things are looking positive.
Even though we are not home free yet i can see the finish line.
And they had a look at bubs bits and we have a little GIRL on the way Abbi has sent us her little sister.
Sorry for no persies i didnt get much sleep so i am off for a bath and will pop back in later.
ooohh Ferrals!! IM soooo happy to hear your beautiful GIRL looks strong & healthy! Such a positive sign!!!!!
Im soo happy for you!!! I know nothing is guaranteed yet but its a great start!!! lots of love xx
Quick question: Does anyone else here get 'O' pain both sides? Since my m/cs i've had crampy pain mid-cycle leading up to 'O' time. I used to get just brief twinges on one side (presumably where the egg was coming from). Now i'm getting pain both sides and it sometimes lasts on and off for days. Anyone else had this? Not sure what it means and scared it;s something bad...though i just had an u/s and the dr said everything looks back to normal since m/c. I'm scared there's something wrong they can't see?
Also, Dr mentioned my lining looked thinner than he'd expect 5 days after my AF ended. (i.e he would have thought from the thinness of it that AF had ended a bit more recently). He said he didn't have any concerns and only mentioned it because it meant he could see everything nice and clearly... but i'm worried anyway. Wouldn't thin lining be a problem for implantation? Do you think he would know if the lining was too thin? Is it just cos i'm only one cycle past m/c ending? Is there anything you can do to improve the lining?
Phew thats a releif Ferrals so happy for you and a little girl too !!!!
Possum sometimes takes a good few months for your lining to get back to normal especially if you had a D&C not sure if you did or not,
Sunbeam FX all is ok and a BFP next week for you would be awsome Alice too !
AFM still no AF but not sure how long my cycles are anymore so put on 30 days on my ticker but normally 28 to 29 well used to be anyways so waiting waiting waiting for her to appear !!!!
ferrals -- so happy for you! Little girls are awsome, you'll see...
possum - I had this. I was wondering if that means I am ovulating from both sides? I had OPK +, then the same night my one ovary was hurting and the next day the other. I read that to get fraternal twins you have to drop 2 eggs, and all within 24 hours, so it would make sense maybe. I also read that the pain can happen before, during, or after O.
Alice - we probably have a bit different tests here in the US, but for me, Clearblue was the most sensitive test. I got negative on FR and positive on Clearblue. I also liked it because there is no guessing "is this a line or not a line?"
And make sure it is not expired! Expired test will give you false negative.
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Alice woohoo on your snow baby and your two little embies on board. Sending you loads of
Sunbeam I have everything crossed for you its a BFP when you test.
possum magic I did get ovary pain both sides although I could tell which ovary the egg came from as that pain would be worse. But they definately both niggled and at times the pain was excrutiating.
Saffy great news your next cycle is so affordable.
toomanyshoes thats a shame you can't share your jouney with your mum. I guess if she wont be helpful best she doesn't know until bub is on his/her way. FX that is soon.
to everyone I have missed.
Well I am still thinking of you all and praying with all I have you all about to get your sticky BFP's. Still keeping a low profile.
Possum Magic - I rarely used to get O pains at all till all of this. I sometimes get it one side and sometimes both. I think sometimes it can mean that both ovaries will O but generally follicles develop on both ovaries and then one becomes dominant and the others decrease again so you may just be feeling the follicles developing or deminishing. A thin lining will affect implantation. If you are worried about your lining then you might want to think about doing IUI to concieve as this is something they monitor regularly . Chinese medice/ acupuncture is another option as they focus very much on blood/circulation/cleansing etc
Alice - I am not on Clexane only low dose asprin. Is is for blood thining?
AFM - Got another BFN this morning so I'm out of the running . Not doing anything till next month now as I'm away at the end of this month. I'm okay now but was pretty upset this morning and having very negative thoughts about never having a child. If Donor daddy agrees we wll do another stim cycle in Nov. and if this does not work we will then use up our frozen bubs. It is so scary getting this close to the end of the road and really having to accept that it may never happen!
Glad the sight was useful. The TWW is agonising but I seem to have figured that the symproms start later with IVF so try and stay calm, hard I know especially when you are not sleeping well. Pleeeease can I have your cake recipe 
. Have fun with your godson.
Did I mention I was a cake addict? It is my biggest weakness...sigh. I was thinking about you and the cruise and thinking how nice it will be for you to kick back with your lovely pg belly on a relaxing holiday. I'm so hopeful for you, keep testing 'cause I'm sure you're going to get a BFP. How're you finding the Clexane injections? Damn but that needle seems thick or blunt or something after the FSH injections! Still, I think it really helped me last time and I hope it's helping you too. Go the veiny boobs, cramps and nausea!! Fingers crossed
it is good. xx
to those who received unwanted AF.
and stickiest of sticky 
to everyone.
WHOO WHAT A RELIEF AWESOME NEWS
to everyone I have missed.
. Not doing anything till next month now as I'm away at the end of this month. I'm okay now but was pretty upset this morning and having very negative thoughts about never having a child. If Donor daddy agrees we wll do another stim cycle in Nov. and if this does not work we will then use up our frozen bubs. It is so scary getting this close to the end of the road and really having to accept that it may never happen!
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