You see, I think this is hard to quantify. I have spoken to DH about the collection of his sample, and while uncomfortable, he believes what he endured is not a patch on the indignities I went through on a regular basis. And I agree. Try having an internal u/s with 3 people in the room, and the sperm sample collection sounds great in comparison.This is not to say things couldn't be better for him, but in comparison, it didn't seem so bad to him when he thought of what I went through regularly.
Again I do believe there is always room for improvement, but not just in the management of the men, but in the management of all of us. Maybe I'm the sort of woman who, while I feel for my DH, feels like if he felt uninvolved, he would make more of an effort to involve himself (and he did) and if he felt unhappy with the facilities, he would say so. Emotional support provided by the clinic for women is pretty poor as it is, judging from the stories I've heard around the traps, so if the man receives even less, to me it would seem in proportion to how much he is viewed by the clinic as a patient compared with the woman.
ETA slyder, I agree with conversations being directed only to the woman is not on. If both man and woman are there, I would expect them not to ignore my husband, and to my clinic's credit, they never did. That is on par to tradespeople only talking to him despite the fact that I called them, I know what needs to be done and I'll be the one paying them. That's just manners.





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