I'm so busy atm I barely have time to SIT at the 'puter.... am still struggling a bit, but have my appointment with the health nurse/pnd lady on Wednesday, so see what eventuates there. DH has started long service leave today, so am hoping that things will improve on many fronts....
Of course, this all pales when I think of you Michelle. As you reality keeps hitting, it's so crappy........ will give you a call Thursday hopefully when you are home. I hope you got a bit of time out while away............
Hi all. Once again, sorry for not posting in so long. My MIL has left now so I have some time to get online again. Sounds like we all need a big big right now, and I think we all deserve a trip to Tahiti!!
Jayne - It was so lovely to meet you and Claudia - she is such a cutey! Sorry again that Catherine was being a bit of a PITA. Now that we are back home she has been getting some tough love and is getting back to normal... at least until the next time we visit Nanny and she gets spoilt rotten again!! I have just been looking at your holiday pics - wow! The girls must have loved getting the photos with Cinderella etc, that's every little girl's dream!
Michelle - thinking of you constantly hun. I know that doesn't help much, but I am feeling very helpless from here. I can't believe the run you are having re the scan results. Will be thinking of you on Thurs and praying for good results.
Bek - good luck with the new sleep tactics. I hope they work, but if not, it sounds like a lot of people have had success with sleep school. I just hope you start to get some more sleep soon as I remember how difficult I found DD for the first year or so of her life when she never slept - it really does drive you crazy, and I can only imagine how much harder it must be with two other girls to look after as well.
kelly - glad to hear all is well
mako - how are things going with your DH re trying again? When is your OB appointment? It is soon now I think. Hopefully you will get some answers or at least a plan. Keep talking to DH - this is a decision that needs to be made by both of you and he needs to understand how important it is to you. I hope you can get through to him
Lee - for you too hun. Sounds like you have had a rotten time lately. I hope your appointment goes well.
Deb - your XDH never ceases to amaze me. It must be so hard for you right now. And your poor DS - he definitely doesn't sound like his normal self. I hope the psychologist is helping.
Janie - I hope Nicholas had a wonderful third birthday
We are going well - just the usual really. DD is finally in a big girl bed which I am stoked about, so DS is now in the cot and I have been busy decorating their rooms which I love! DD sleeps through the night sometimes these days and DS is usually up twice a night, but is difficult to get back down after his second night feed. He is growing soooo fast I can hardly believe it. He has his 4 month check next week and I can't wait to find out how heavy he is now.
Does anyone have any tips on which cars can fit three car seats? We are thinking of getting a new car but have no idea where to start. I drive a Forester right now and the back seat is almost entirely taken up with two car seats so we figure we may as well get one that will accommodate three car seats as we would like to have another bubba at some stage (not for a while yet though!).
BUN _ Darl, there is no stress, Catherine wasn't a PITA!!! LOL. Don't worry bout a thing. Curly was very angelic that day, but trust me, she can be a horror when she puts her mind to it. I was relieved she was on her best behaviour though. I was so glad to have met you as well! I sure am racking up the 'meeting BB girls IRL' thing! Glad you're home & settled & that Catherine has gone into the big girls bed! What a big achievement. How are all the new clothes from Myer as well??
LEE _ I'm glad that you are seeing somebody on Wednesday & also glad that DH is on leave to help take the load off. Can you talk to him openly about the things you are having problems with? Does he understand that you need some extra help or do you have to continually ask him for it? Sometimes it's just so much easier when they just use their initiative isn't it? Does that make sense? I really hope things improve for you darl. :hugs:
LISA _ Can't wait to hear all the Natalya updates!!!
AFM _ Well I went back to work today. Blah blah blah. It actually wasn't too bad I must admit, will be even better when the pay rocks in next week though! I have just itchy feet though! I'm dying to get back out in the big wide world & explore it some more! I think I caught a bug when I was away - the travel variety!!! PMSL.
Well I have to leave it there, I have a rat bag getting out of bed tonight. What is with that?
Sorry for being MIA girls. Between DH being away for a month, sickness, a broken computer and Mr B feeding 2hourly I've been slack.
Michelle: waterfalls of cuddles for you gorgeous. This is your safe place so please don't feel that you need to sugarcoat anything for us.
Jayne: looks like you guys had a sensational time. So where next?
Bek: hope the sleep improves at your place. It's bloody hard work.
Deb: totally understand the need to focus on your kids. Here for you.
Mako: I hope DS is feeling better. I saw on FB that he was sick.
Bun: we are looking at 3 seat cars also. DH flat out refuses to drive a van so it looks like a 4wd is our only option.
Willow: how is your Nan doing? I hope sleep improves at your place soon.
Freya: the sewing looked great Hun. Has sickness finally left your boys alone for a while?
Janie: is D back to 100% after his op? Hope the feeding issues are settling.
Lee: the photos of Your boy's christening are just sooooo gorgeous. I hope your appointment goes well hun.
Hi to everyone else
Well we are going well. Just tired but in the scheme of things it's no biggy. B is just feeding feeding feeding. He was weighed today and is 7.84kgs at 4 months just trying to get him to go longer than 2 hours at night. This too shall pass. We went out of dinner the other night and Mum and Dad babysat and B took a zippy cup of EBM no worries. It was so nice to have some time off.
Love Spring
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You crack me up Jayne. I'm happy with it. I've been thinking about it for a while but today just decided what the heck. Had to do something with my mop before my Dirty Thirty
Hi girls, have been reading, but didn't post - but was so happy to hear Michelle that George is growing nicely. One good thing in a sea of sadness and turbulence. You need to remind your little man that he DOES STILL have a Daddy, even though his Daddy is not here in the flesh, Greg will always be his Daddy, can't change that. I know hon how heartbreaking it is for the babies - my heart continues to break for my 2, being so ripped off of such a wonderful Dad. No solutions I'm sorry, it's crap, it really is. Like the girls say, one step in front of the other is all you can do... did you call Marcia?
Spring - I love your new "doo" too, sometimes it's good to morph into someone else, a total change of hair can do that!! One day I'm going to get mine dyed black......... still haven't found the guts, but one day I will!
Mako - I know your relationship with your mum is sensitive at the best of times, and frankly after the Maccas incident, who can blame you for being wary of her ability to keep your boy safe - just put the fear into her of what could happen if she does not keep him extra safe, and how precious he is to you.... it's so hard trying to trust others with our children, as nobody looks after them like we do xo
Kelly - glad you are having a good time in WA, looking forward to hearing how well your 12 week scan went xo
AFM - well, went to the PND nurse on Wed, followed by my GP yesterday (who specialises in mental health issues) - and for sure I have severe PND, sigh sigh..... it's really a build up of so many things, as most of you know. GP convinced me to take anti-depressants for 6-12 months, to assist the mood whilst sorting out other stuff, so started lastnight (and am feeling ZONKED today, but will perservere with them, knowing they will settle down). Started my Yoga/relaxation class yesterday which I think will be nice.... so am trying to do things for myself. DH is home so that is helping, but GP thinks he is depressed too. We have to get some assessments done for Luc's case (we are sueing the hospital and Ob for their fatal mistakes) but this means we have to prove we have suffered (yep, they need proof) so this involves tests etc - it's all SO TEDIOUS, but we have come this far, so will perservere to the end and see it through...... so thats about where I'm at, it's not great as there are major issues between my older DD and DH, they just clash, and it creates a lot of tension at home, and this in turn reminds me again of DH1s death and how crap it is, and it shouldn't be this tough.... it just never goes away... sorry to dump all this, but it helps to get it out - any advice is welcome, as DH told me lastnight that DD will have to go to boarding school, as he can't live with her, which is really great and supportive after my diagnosis this week... I tell you, I must have been a really bad person in my last life, as karma seems to be hitting me in the face this one.....
Arrrggghhh...........on a brighter note, I'm meeting a friend for lunch shortly, taking Remy, so better get ready.......
Other than all that girls, I'm still ok - does this make any sense at all????
I hope you don't mind me popping in. I think I posted here some time ago like maybe even a year ago? Or was it only 6 mths ago.... Hoping I can join and become a regualr poster.
Lee OMG hun I never realsied til now how tough it is for you I'll have to try and get off this hill and come down for that cuppa. I am on zoloft (100mg) for PND and I have chopped all my hair off. When you stand in the supermarket aisle for nearly half an hour trying to decide on conditioner for split ends then walk away without any then it is time to cut it off. So many things weren't adding up in my life and I couldn't make decisions, was prone to tears easy so I 'failed' the PND test at 6 wks and then 9 mths so finally was convinced to get help once I had underlined the wanting to harm myself. I just wanted out, away from all the drama etc. Zoloft has been my godsend .. 17 yrs I have been fighting going on antidepressants. Oh well. now they are helping and that is good.
Michelle I have just caught up on your news too hun. I am so very sorry and so sad to read about Greg The little ones are so young and a new baby on the way too... you must just be struggling so much to make each day. I hope you have a network of family and friends you can reach out to. Sometimes even just someone to help with a load of washing or cooking a meal or helping bath the kids when you are tired.. it all helps. Greg will always be with you in spirit and you only have to look into your heart to see him and I know though that can never replace his arms around you or eharing his voice.
Mako it seems we lost our last angels at about the same time. I was pg with identical twins but lost them at 9wks and now just waiting to see what happens with my first proper cycle since the D&C. We said goodbye to Annabelle at 31 wks 8 yrs ago and in the last 5 years I have had now 9 m/c.
I recognise some of the other ladies in here but it has been so long since I really sat down at the computer and treid to catch up.
Parenting after any loss is a reasure and a blessing. Samuel is now 5 and daniel is 13 mths. My delights I do have odler children too and now I have 2 grandchildren also living with us.
Tash is 18 and married and her Alex is about 2 weeks yuonger than Lee's DD Remy. Tash and bevan moved abck home in December. Then my 17 yr old has a son who is 2 mths old. His partner or ex-partner ( I have no idea where things stand with them ATM) also live with us. My oldest son though is now living at the other end of the state and his girlfriend already had a little boy when they got together. Seth is 2. So we are quite a busy family and you can see why I have trouble finding computer time or even time to escape to meet up with Lee for a cuppa.
Still hopeful too of another baby for us. My OB is quite happy with us still TTC and reassured me that he does have older mums on his books atm all pg naturally. So I am 2dpo and fingers crossed.
I know it has been a long time since i was here... I think it was just after Michelle you announced your BFP? or was that in the pg thread.. I lose track so easily.
Jayne - C'mon over!! I'll be waiting for you with bells on!!! We will tee it up with the other melb ladies and have a good catch up.
Hi to everyone else - gotta go and wrap gifts, housewarming tonight, bday party tomorrow and M day on sunday..busy busy busy..
PS Miss A is pretty much TT in 4 days! She has had a couple of wee accidents but for the most part she has caught on very quickly and easily No 2's has been the easiest part.
Michelle I'm pleased Omar is doing well. I wish things were different for you too babe but like others in here have said "just one moment at a time". I have to second what Lee has said about little Oscar and his comments about his Daddy. His Daddy is in a different place now but he's always going to held so very close in all of your hearts
Angelicdragon Welcome back to this wonderful thread. I remember "seeing" you in here before. I'm sorry that you lost your twins not so long ago and also sorry for all of your little angels. Sounds like you sure do have a very busy household
Lisa Woohoo on Miss A being TT'd. I bet she thinks she's so clever
How is Natalya doing?
Sounds like you've got a very busy weekend ahead of you..Enjoy
Lee I was wondering how your appointment went the other day. I did actually ask you in my post the other day but BB was being somewhat difficult and it didn't show up in what I posted. Anyway good on you for seeking help hun. That is a massive step in the right direction. I'm so sorry that your DH is suffering too. I mean who wouldn't be in your situation. I hope everything goes as smoothly as possible with Luc's case. I wish things were so very different for you all too.
Willow have a great weekend hun and don't forget to get your mum to take a pic of you guys all dressed up. I want to see how good your shoes go with your dress
As for DS2 you should do whatever you are happy doing. If you're happy feeding him during the night then you should do that. You are his mummy and you know what's best for him. FWIW I' not too sure if you know this but I fed DS during the night most nights until we weaned at 22.5 months. I did it because it made him happier and it was much easier than spending hours trying to resettle an upset screaming baby/toddler and then have to get up and try to function throughout the day and go to work. even to this day if DS wakes during the night I'll often bring him into our bed just so we can all get back to sleep as quickly as possible. I know thats not everyone's ideal but it does work for us atm. Its not every night but atleast once or twice a week sometimes more sometimes less.
Jayne have a wonderful time in Melbourne. I want to get to Melbourne one day too but can't see it happening any time soon.
Spring Do you love your new "Do" It looks great. I wish I could do something with my awful hair. How are your boys?
Well I'm not too sure what's going on with DS. He was fine with my mum and he loved his train trip. I did have a bit of a talk with mum about how I was feeling and said I expect to be asked if she takes him on any public transport or anywhere really. She just laughed at me and changed the subject So for now I've left it alone. I'm sure I'll get another opportunity to talk to her about things sometime soon.
Anyway his temp has come down and he's been ok until today. He was at MIL's and he was playing with the dogs in the lounge room and she said he just layed down and went to sleep at 10:30. He slept for 1.5 hours and this afternoon was just laying around when I brought him home and he's been really miserable and getting upset over nothing and didn't eat dinner and nearly fell asleep in the bath. He's been in bed since 6:45 tonight. He normally goes to bed around 8pm.He felt a bit warmer tonight so I'm not too sure if his temp is on its way back up again or what.
I've got my appointment with my Ob on Monday afternoon to see what she says about TTC again and what lies ahead for us on that front.
Thanks to you all for your good wishes today.
I have been to talk to my Ob about everything and have come away feeling a little lost still. I wish we had straight answers and a very clear path of what we should do but unfortunately its not the case.
She did some testing from my D&C and that result showed that there was something wrong with the placenta. Not quite sure what but she said absolutely nothing would have changed that outcome I asked her about Clexane and she said that she would consider that next time but we need to test for something to see if its a positive or negative thing whatever it is(Sorry I'm not up on all the proper names for everything and I was by myself so can't ask DH what it was exactly). Anyway long story short....start Metformin and Folate tonight and see what happens over the next few months.I can start Clomid if I want too anytime after next AF. I'm not too sure what to do there. I go back in August. DH asked how my appointment went when he came home but never said anything and has now gone out for a few hours. Hopefully we'll talk about things once he gets home and Sage is in bed.
So girls not much to really report except I'm NOT going to give up on my dream of having another baby one day.
Sorry for the "me" post but I'm trying to get Sage to eat some dinner and its not going so well lol.
Belated Mummies Day from me too - my two older ones came good and did some nice things for me, with my main pressie being a new tool kit lol.... pink one at that.
Another strange thing happened on Sunday morning - my GP called me at home to see how I was going (in myself and with the medication) - he's worried about me and believes I am more than just post-natally depressed, was talking about me having Post Traumatic Stress - quite possible I think, it just is weird for me to have a 'name' for how I am feeling thats all. I go back to him on Wednesday, as does my DH - so I guess the ball is rolling on things - but there are just so many issues on the boil at the moment, it's hard to know which one to deal with first iykwim. Sigh Sigh.....
The new forums are a bit annoying when you type across - has anyone noticed that, you can't see your typing? Guess there will be teething problems.
Mako - just read your post, wish I could offer some real advice, other than to keep trying hon, I know its tough and potentially heartbreaking, but with the medication and hope, what else can you do but to try try again, and pray one of your bubs will stick now. I can see you with another bub - and my DH1 used to tell me "if you can SEE it, then so it shall be" - and he was always right
Well, gotta head to bed, tired tired tired - DH has had Flynn in with him (and of course Flynn sleeps through for him) but it's probably more a case of I'm a light sleeper and hear every little thing. We started Flynn on solids this last week, and even though he's not eating much, a few spoonfulls, it's started and he seems to like it. I'm kind of sad about it - because my boy is growing up, and I just want to keep him in amber just the way he is right now, because he is damm CUTE!
MICHELLE _ I'm so glad to hear that you are taking care of yourself. My health nurse once told me in order to care for a family, you need to take care of yourself. Happy Mummy=Happy Children. I know that you're far from 'happy' right now, but I'm so glad to hear you taking some positive steps in order to help yourself. The chiro did wonders for me when I was pregnant, I swear it was magical, I really hope he can relieve that pelvis pain for you as well. As for the kids, it sounds like a two-way street, ALL of you are hurting, therefore ALL your tempers are shortenend & the kids are acting out in a way to test boundaries & see how far they can go. While I completely respect that you & Greg chose a gentle parenting path, he would not be happy to know they are both turning into devils & he would want that sorted out pronto! I remember when I was in Sydney & Oscar was starting to get tired & act up a little bit, you said 'you chose the wrong parents if you think that behaviour will get you anywhere' (I can't even remember what he was actually doing, but I remember your words over it all), & Greg agreed with you - whole heartedly. I think that Greg will applaud you on the way you have conducted yourself and the children in the past month and would be incredibly proud knowing what a fantastic mother you are/have been to the kids. Don't be so hard on yourself chick, you're fantastic!
KELLY _ Tuesday is better for me as I'm working Monday, but Claudia has Kindergym on Tuesday mornings, we are home about 11:45am if you wanted to do lunch??? Just send me a text. Loving Ryann's style with the impromtu shopping & the Pandora! What a brilliant day you have had! What a really lovely thing to do! I have decided I'd love a Pandora to commemorate paying off our mortgage & starting it off with a house charm.
LEE _ Hoping your less zonked very soon!
AFM _ Feeling very under the weather today, not sure if it's because I'm brewing a cold or the pizza & booze I consumed last night......... off to breakfast with my friend tomorrow morning, the zoo with Alan's mother during the day & dinner at my sisters for my Mum tomorrow night so I sure hope I'm better tomorrow.
Lee hoepfully the zonked feeling will go fast. I know when I started on the zoloft I wasn't up to driving for about 3 weeks, just felt like my head wasn't in quite the right place for the concentration needed.
Michelle you have all gone through a major change and parenting by yourself is a lot different to parenting with both of you. Cut yourself some slack and don't worry about having to start to do things differently. You are doing the best you can and just hold on to that.
Just a quick post to say I hope you all had a good Mother's day. I always hold special thoughts for other mums of Angels. You are all so special.
((((HUGS))))
Jude
Happy Mothers Day to all my beautiful friends in here. You've been with me in thought all day. Michelle - you've been in my prayers and energy all day.
My four youngest ones were so excited to give me pastries in bed and DS9 made his first pot of tea for me! I have felt so sad and shed a few tears missing terribly my eldest DD. No phone call of course...
Thankfully a heavy head cold let the others believe it was that that was making me not my usual self.
right now, and I think we all deserve a trip to Tahiti!!
just trying to get him to go longer than 2 hours at night. This too shall pass. We went out of dinner the other night and Mum and Dad babysat and B took a zippy cup of EBM no worries. It was so nice to have some time off. 
I'll have to try and get off this hill and come down for that cuppa. I am on zoloft (100mg) for PND and I have chopped all my hair off. When you stand in the supermarket aisle for nearly half an hour trying to decide on conditioner for split ends then walk away without any then it is time to cut it off. So many things weren't adding up in my life and I couldn't make decisions, was prone to tears easy so I 'failed' the PND test at 6 wks and then 9 mths so finally was convinced to get help once I had underlined the wanting to harm myself. I just wanted out, away from all the drama etc. Zoloft has been my godsend .. 17 yrs I have been fighting going on antidepressants. Oh well. now they are helping and that is good.
I'll be waiting for you with bells on!!! We will tee it up with the other melb ladies and have a good catch up. 
So for now I've left it alone. I'm sure I'll get another opportunity to talk to her about things sometime soon.
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