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  1. #1
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    Nov 2006
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    Dear Spring

    This is not an easy one, but I do have to agree if you tell one set of parents its hard not to tell the other. May be you can tell yourside of the family and FIL and stepMIL and let DH to his mum, that way he can break the ice and filter any "comments" that she may have.

    I know how very special this time is for you and you only want positive thoughts and wishes......Im not to sure if this is any good maybe the other girls have a better idea but its hard not to upset our other halfs. Great news on finding your Doula, sometime it is just so good to cry like that a bit like a great rainfall after months of nothing it cleans everything out and makes it feel new again. You are a strong women who now can achive anything you want, Harrison has helped you be able to do that, you just have to listen to your innerself and go with it....I know very deep but I think we are all such amazing women who need to be tolds that a little more.

    As to the washing, it must be the weather I did all our beds today, so did one of my girlfriends! I cant wait to get into bed tonight.....nothing like fresh sheets and clean PJ but it also means no ... btween the sheets, I always tell DH this, I like to feel nice and clean for the first night! Im not sur if I helped but I hope you can come to a decision that makes both of you happy.

    Congrates on 12weeks today!!!!!!!!
    Luv Nat

  2. #2
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    Nov 2006
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    To all the girls

    well so much for my relaxing weekend I had to go into the office and do work WTF, do these people not know how much I hate that!!! but I did get out of having to vaccum, go down to the beach and get the soccer boots, work was not that bad much easier then being at home cleaning the bathroom and running around. Thats what I told my DH and im sticking to it.

    We are out for dinner tonight and then hopeful taking it easier tomorow. I hope you all have a wonderful weekend with loved ones, rest up and be safe.

    Luv Nat xxxx

  3. #3

    Oct 2005
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    Spring, I am so so happy that you have contacted a Doula and that you feel as you do after talking with her. I had tears running down my cheeks reading your post. I am just so pleased that you have taken this really big step in this journey. Harry and Lil Spring are blessed to have you as a Mama.

    I would agree with Nat about the in law issue. My MIL would say (and did say) similar things to yours. Sadly I don't have any time for her and nor does my darling husband. Good on you for not wasting your energy on her. You need your energy for much more positive things! I hope you and your DH come to a decision together that feels right for you both.

    Nat: That's a blow about work today I hope you have a lovely dinner out.

    Where is everyone else today?

    Well I have had a productive day in the garden and it's lookin good! It's quite chilly here tonight with a thick mist rolling in. I love it when it's like this up here - it feels so crisp and fresh. Well I have to get back to my kidlets who are watching "Barnyard" - I promised I would only be 5 minutes...
    Nighty night.

  4. #4

    Oct 2005
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    This is a special message just for Mel...

    I have been thinking of you and your DH and Nicholas today. I hope that today has brought to you some completion and comfort. I am sending you so much love and many hugs - I hope you can feel them...

  5. #5
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    Dec 2006
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    Hey everyone,

    Wow it sounds like it has been a busy time here over the weekend.

    Spring 12 weeks - woohoo!!! I can't wait to meet lil' Spring on Tuesday.
    It's a tough one on the MIL. But maybe like you said, wait until you get the results on Tuesday and see how you feel then. The info you have from the Doula sounds interesting and while it was hard to talk to her, I'm sure she has helped you alot. I can't imagine how difficult it must be to make all the decisions. I think about them now but I don't have to make the decisions just yet. Unfortunately we have lost the innocence of pregnancy and birth. What-ever you decide to do - you know I will support you.

    Mel - how are you doing? I am thinking of you

    Nat - bummer about work!!!! But you did get out of the vaccuming I hope you had a nice dinner last night and a relaxing day today.

    Flowerchild - your trip to the shops sounds so funny! I'm sure it wasn't funny at the time. Hope you are feeling ok and Clomid is being kind to you. I start tomorrow!

    Bailey - you are so strong to hold your friends baby. I know that I wouldn't have been able to do that. It is a big step to take.
    Wooooooohoooooooo on getting hitched that is great! Are you having a dinner or anything after it. What are the plans? That is so exciting!
    Like you I have no idea why we are in this situation. I don't know how we are 'picked' or what we did that was so wrong to deserve this. Everyone believes different things but for me, I just think that it is a tragic accident. Our bubbas didn't mean for us to go through this but I also believe that they didn't move on because 'someone' else needed them more. This is my option only and I don't want to offend anyone, but the way I see it is that I needed Cooper more than anyone. I also don't believe that he made way for his brother or sister. This is just me. I don't know why it happens. I wish I did and could understand why it happens to us, but I know that I will never know why. We all just need to be there for each other and help each other through the pain.

    Well we had a pretty quiet day yesterday. DH mowed the lawns and my sister and BIL came over last night for dinner. I said to DH yesterday that I am home all day during the week on my own and come the weekend I would like to do something nice with him other than being at home. So today we caught the rivercat into town and went to the markets at the Rocks. I bought a sagattarius dream catcher - it is blue and has a crystal star on the end! How could I walk past that. It says "Sagittarius - high spirited, fun, loving extrovert. Aims for the stars." I just had to buy it. Now I need to find somewhere to hang it. We then walked around to the Opera House and Mrs Macquarie's Chair and then walked into Darling Harbour! That is a huge walk!!!! We had lunch and then got the ferry home. It was a nice day out and we have decided that we will do it more regularly.

    I hope everyone had a nice weekend. Big hugs to you all.

  6. #6
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    OMG Bailey

    HOW EXCITING THAT YOU ARE GETTING HITCHED... That is fantastic news. I don't think it is half a@sed at all. You obviously love eachother after over 10 years so who cares how you do it. I am jumping around excited for you. YIPPIE!!!!

    Lynn: It was nice talking to you before. I am glad you had a nice day with DH. It sounds wonderful. I can't wait to see you on Tuesday, you are a lifesaver.

    Flowerchild: Thank you for your reassuring words about the Doula. I just want to have all the help and resources I can so that I have the best chance of getting to a vaginal delivery. If I change my mind that is ok also. I need to heal, I know that. So hopefully she will join me on that path.

    Dream: I hope your work didn't call you in today also. Did you have a nice night out at dinner last night. I hope so.

    Mel: I know this weekend would have been really tough for you, but just know that when you are ready, we are all here for you :hugs:

    Well I have made my favourite creamy chicken asparagus and I am just about to sit down and watch the biggest loser and feel guilty about how yummy my dinner is. Only 2 sleeps until my 12 week scan. I feel excited, nervous, anxious, happy everything at the same time.

    Try to drop in later.

    Big love
    Spring

  7. #7
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    Dec 2006
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    Hello,


    Thanks for all the 's. Lol, it is funny, I have never been one to want to get married etc, but I think everything that has happened has made us look at what is important. We don't have anything planned after it, in fact 3 days later DP will be off on a boat trip to indonesia for 2 weeks surfing. DS and I will be meeting him there 2 weeks after that, so we will class that as our honeymoon Wow, how romantic, especially since a bunch of our friends will all be there too, including my brother, lol.

    Lynn - Sounds like you had a nice day. The dream catcher sounds beautiful. Thanks for listening to my ramble, sometimes I find I just need to purge it all. I agree when you say that no body need our babies as much as us, that's why I am so confused, this has really changed the way I think about things.

    Spring - How was your dinner? I just ate a big greasy kebab while watching the biggest loser too. I love those crappy shows. I so hate the red team though, I was glad they lost the weigh in, that should wipe those smug grins off their faces. I betcha Munnalita gets the boot. I hope so. Yay for the ultrasound on tuesday. Have you decided what to do about the MIL?? You will have to send me a pic of that cheeky lil spring so I can see how much they have grown since last time.

    Mel - I hope you are well.

  8. #8

    Oct 2005
    A Nestle Free Zone... What about YOU?
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    Hi Gorgeous ones,
    Lynn: Courageous and wonderful - what you did was a big step and I am hoping you are feeling okay... It was lovely that everyone made you feel so part of a "family". I am happy it went as well as it could my love...

    Bailey: Congratulations on taking the big matrimonial step!!! Woo HOO!!!! Bali sounds tooooo good right now!!!!

    Mel: I am happy that Nicholas is at home - I think how you are feeling is so "normal" in the circumstances Mel... It is confusing, sad, happy lots of things... Nicholas's urn looks beautiful...

    Spring: I will be thinking of you tomorrow - please come in as soon as you can to tell us the latest update of Lil Spring. He/she will be bouncing along in there - it will all be good Spring...

    Well, yesterday was my Angel baby boys first "birth day". This time last year I was recovering from the anaesthetic to remove our placenta and crying until there were no more tears. This time a year ago I truly believed that the next time would be okay. Little did I know that there would be another angel baby girl and then another tiny angel to follow... I am blessed to have my earth children but God how I miss my Angel babies... I know that I am lucky to havae my children but I just so much want more... I believe in my heart that it will happen but right now I feel quite overwhelmed with the sadness of my "Goodbye Babies"...

  9. #9
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    Oct 2006
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    Deb, I am so sorry you are feeling such sadness Of course you are grateful for your earth children, but that doesnt mean your angel babies mean any less. They are still your babies, and you love them as much as the babies you can kiss goodnight. Dont let anyone make you feel like you are not entitled to be heartbroken over what you have been through, you are an incredibly strong woman and you inspire each and every one of us. I send your angel boy a belated birthday wish and I hope all of our angel babies helped make it a special day for him :hugs:

    Lynn, I hope you are feeling ok - probably exhausted from your huge day Meant to say earlier, I agree with DH you definitely deserve a new dress!

    Spring, You are a true friend and I wish you all the best for tomorrow :hugs:

    I hope everyone else is well.

    Love Mel

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    Dear Flowerchild: This is a special message just for you. I am not a religious person, but I will say a little prayer for your Goodbye babies tonight. They will live in your heart and my heart forever. :hugs: :hugs: :hugs:

    Love Spring

  11. #11

    Oct 2005
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    Mel and Spring thankyou for your kind words... I did need them tonight...
    Where would we be without Belly Belly at times like this? I know for me all of you women are a constant source of strength. I think it's worse with my DH away too...
    I am going to go now and tuck myself in with a cup of hot chocolate and a bowl of yoghurt!

    Thankyou for your prayers for my Angel Baby Boy... I truly believe he can hear - they all can... One day I hope I will understand why...
    nighty night...

  12. #12
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    Jan 2006
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    Evening girls.

    Deb - my candles are flickering for your angel babies

    Spring - I have everything crossed for a beautiful scan tomorrow.

    Lynn - I left one job after Caitlyn was born (I was working 2 part time) and each time I go back (I still go there to teach occasionally) I get anxious. I worked there the day we found out Caitlyn had died. My birth centre appointment was in the afternoon. I hated going back and now being pregnant I tend to feel very protective of this little bundle so that no bad vibes reach him. It is amazing who has experienced a loss and when you find out. My midwife was disturbed to find out I had my own little neonatal death group.

    Mel, Nat and Bailey

  13. #13
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    Dec 2006
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    Flowerchild - big hugs to you :hugs: I am thinking of you and your little bubba. Happy birthday to your precious sweet angel. I bet all the angels had a big party yesterday for him. I hope that one day you can understand why too. Sometimes just knowing the answers help just a little bit. It is such a frustrating path that we are all on the moment, but March is our month

    Spring - 'Aunty Lynn' that brought tears to my eyes (I still have some left after today!) That is such a beautiful thing to say. I just can't wait to meet Lil' Spring tomorrow. I know that I can be strong and I will be able to do this with you. Every day lately I feel like I am doing something that is a step forward and I believe that this is helping me. One more sleep

    Mel - Yes I have had a big day. And I just played tennis. It was good to hit the s&^% out of the ball (poor ball!) but I feel better.

    Bailey - yes I hope to get lots of baby germs tomorrow I can send you some if you want. Patrick Swaze - that is funny! Did you tell him that?

    Michelle - it is a hard decision to go back to work. But at the moment I just can't. I'm not sure if I ever will but it is there if I want to. I just need to concentrate on #1.

    Nat - thinking of you and your family - big

  14. #14
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    Oct 2006
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    YIPPIE................. For once some good news!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I survived and Lil' Spring is doing very well.. First of all a huge thank you to Aunty Lynn :woman:, you are a sweetheart and I am eternally grateful to you for sharing today wth me.

    Well the good news, no the GREAT news is that Lil Spring doesn't have single umbiliacle artery this time WHOOOO HOOOOO. Also, the spine looks as straight as it possibly could at this stage. Although I have to wait a while to confirm that the spine is ok, it is looking perfectly normal which with Harry's 12 week scan wasn't the case. The nuchal translucency was 1 which is apparently good but to be honest I was concentrating so much on all the other stuff that I didn't take much notice of that. I had my blood test also which they ended up taking it from the vein in my hand because I have such sucky veins so I should get the full report within 2 days.

    I do feel better. Still riddled with nerves, but this is a major hurdel to have overcome so I have to feel proud and happy that I have made it this far. The essential facts are

    GA: 12w4d
    HB: 154bpm
    CRL: 6.22cm
    EDD: 21 September 2007

    Thank you so much for allowing me to share this news with you all. You are such a special group of friends and I know that you all with be sharing such wonderful news with me before long.



    Spring

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    Sorry Flowerchild I just saw your post. I hope that your little eggie waits for DH but as you said, you never O before CD 16 so I know in my heart that it will be the same this week.

    Fingers crossed for a negative OPT (just this once)

    luv Spring

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    Oct 2005
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    Thanks Lynn, Bailey and Michelle for your thoughts.
    I am feeling a bit better today... I am sure you all know how it is.
    I am scared witless that I am going to ovulate before DH arrives home. I know it's not even rational - I NEVER ovulate before cd16 (cd16 is very early for me) but I have started to get crampy.... I made an error and DH isn't coming home until THURSDAY morning not Wednesday as I thought. Anyway today is cd13 and I have to do an opk - can you believe I am actually hoping for a negative opk???? How confusing is that????!!!!!

    Just between us the Clomid has b een an absolute shocker this month. I am cranky as 10 old men!!!! Hopefully by the time DH returns I will be sweetness and roses again!!!!

    I will pop back later...

  17. #17

    Oct 2005
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    OH Spring YIPPPPPPEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    This is wonderful news.

    Lil Spring is going great guns. I am so happy for you and your family. I have a HUGE smile on my face!

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    Thanks flowerchild.

    It is funny, I was going through my scan photos and realised that I have the spine, thorasic cavity, umbilical cord and only a few cute ones of the face. Not the innocent first time mum any more but nothing makes me happier than looking at that perfectly straight spine.

    Life takes so interesting twists and turns doesn't it, but you've just got to hold on.

    Luv Spring

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