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  1. #1
    Registered User

    Nov 2006
    Hassall Grove, NSW
    847

    haven't been on in a couple of days as our internet connection died for some reason, but DH has fixed it now, yay.

    Not sure how I feel about our group being split, can't remember who will be in what group, I know i'll be in the second half.

    Don't know if this was a coincidence today or not, but my little boy went down after his morning bottle, woke after an hour so I went in and put dummy in and he went back to sleep for another 1.5hours, he did the same again after his 2pm bottle, and he NEVER sleeps like that in the afternoon, he is always really unsettled. So he is either, sick (he wasn't well for a couple of days, but that didn't make him sleep more/less than usual), learning to re-settle, or it was a fluke, i'm kinda hoping it was the 'learning to re-settle' one myself.

    Anyways, have to go, time for sneaky feed. TTFN

  2. #2
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    Aug 2007
    319

    Do we get randomly split? And how will I find my group? There are some of you here that I want to spend the time with, we should have been given a vote on a poll or something as to which group you choose . I guess our group was big after all.

    I've given up for the time being on the settling thing. He started getting tearful when I walked into the room or if I said naptime. That's not the reaction I was looking for. He isn't used to sleeping alone so I have to take this really slowly. Ho hum. So this is what a day will look like if I relax about it:

    7.30am - up
    8.30am - sling nap
    9.30/10am - up
    11/11.30am - cot nap (goes in awake, but is so tired, just passes out without fuss)
    12noon - wake (AUGH!)
    1pm - nap (in cot if he'll take it, if not, on me somehow)

    if he napped on me then it's at least a one hour nap, if not, it's another half hour nap

    Then that nap is repeated for third nap (split into two half hours or a full nap on me).
    4/5pm - nap in sling
    5/6pm - bedtime routine
    7ish - DH bounces to sleep

    So all naps, unless they are taken on me (sling or laying in hammock with me) are half an hour, then he wakes. Our night sleep is fine, he sleeps and wakes to feed as he should for his age but his daytime is just one long dragging mess. He grizzles after half an hour awake, I still think that's too soon for his age, and if I put him down then, it takes ages to get him to sleep so I can't seem to pick his tired signs. I've researched the pants off tired signs, I KNOW what to look for - I just can't seem to see them in him, or if I do, it means nothing to his settling.

  3. #3
    Registered User

    Nov 2006
    Hassall Grove, NSW
    847

    Happy 30th Birthday SG

    Hope you have a fantastic time in Perth, shopping and eating.

    We have the 'evil hands plotting' happening here too. He has also taken to starting to deliberately swipe at his toys on his play mat and on his bouncer, he seems to get cranky when his hands don't do what he wants them to. It also seems that the re-settling and then sleeping for a couple of hours was a fluke, he wasn't having a bar of it this morning, will see what happens after I get back from post office this morning but I don't like my chances.

    Fire I think they are split the same way as the pregnancy buddies, so 1-15 April will be one group then 16-30 April will be another group, i'm guessing we will probably all pop into both.
    Last edited by Sharon19270; July 11th, 2008 at 09:43 AM.

  4. #4
    BellyBelly Member

    Feb 2007
    1,029

    Happy 30th Birthday SG
    Thankyou Sharon!! Yes, I had a fab time. Didn't get in any shopping but ate lots of lovely food and wine, although I just hopped on the scales and I've lost 0.4 for the week, no idea how that happened. So I've lost 2.1 over 4 weeks which I'm mildly satisfied with. Thanks also to mgm, BW and Nettie for your good wishes.

    Baxter going great, I think he is starting to master the art of self settling, and it was DH who instigated it! We simply wrap and put dummy in, he talks to himself for a while then goes to sleep. This only happened over the weekend so I'll see how we go today now that DH is back at work.

    Sarah - I just wanted to say well done on the expressing, great amount! But Glad snap lock bags aren't recommended apparently, something about the chemicals leaching into the EBM. I use the Medela snap lock bags instead.

    Sorry for lack of personals, will try to catch up the rest of the thread, although Fire, please tell me more about infant led feeding? I've read a couple of website about it and it looks far easier than messing about with purees!

    SG
    xo

  5. #5
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    Jul 2007
    Perth - Eastern Suburbs
    391

    SG it is funny you mention the glad bags as I've been finding more and more of this reference to BPA.

    Is anyone else concerned by the marketing of FEED YOUR PRECIOUS BABY SAFELY with BPA Free bottles. Apparently bottles made fromPES plastic, which gives them a natural golden colour are free of phthalates and free of bisphenol A (BPA)? a suspected hormone-disrupting chemical used in polycarbonate plastic, from which most baby bottles are made.
    I'm wondering if it is true and thinking of switching to glass bottles for future feeds, but then I think is it just marketing?? Because they never warned us about using plastic when they started making plastic bottles, or was that because they never knew until recent research - link below.


    http://www.environmentcalifornia.org...by-Bottles.pdf

    Interested in everyone's thoughts here.

    Fire Love the idea of starting them on fruits and pawpaw - yum - mum might be eating the baby's food. The recommended vegies are pumpkin and sweet potato because they are sweet.
    As for DD drinking your milk - thinking I might be giving it to DS and DH as they keep swinging this cold back and forth around our house - if I could knock it on the head with a dose of milk each day - I'll express away. How much did DD have each day?

    35 posts till the big split and counting.....
    Last edited by alittlegrubi; July 14th, 2008 at 12:30 PM.

  6. #6
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    Feb 2008
    Tassie NW
    517

    Fire: If your go back and look at the DVD you should have got when your brought you carrier it explains. However if you have lost if you can look on their website. Their legs are ment to come out the side, and their bum is in line with yout belly button.

    How to use and put on the carrier with the insert.
    Instructions - Support - ERGObaby carrier

    I don't put my carrier on that way, I do it how the man does in the video,
    My Quick Guide:-
    1. Put carrier on and leave straps lose.
    2. Folder insert in half and put in carrier making sure it is even.
    3. Left baby up and Lower baby down into carrier.
    4. Giggle baby around under we are both comfy, with baby legs slight off to the side. His bum in line with my belly button.
    5. Tighten straps up.
    6. And AWAY WE GO...
    7. Wyatt asleep in 3-5 mintues.

    The only thing I don't like to do is bend down to pick up things, 'cos it feels as if he's going to fall out. Anyway I hope the help you fire...

    Cheers
    Sarah

  7. #7
    Registered User

    Jun 2007
    Melbourne
    981

    Ok...its safe to assume my child is a freak of nature!
    At 3 months and 7 days....he is having 2 meals a day...
    He had farex for dinner last night and the night before, and then this morning he's been a shocker...mucking around, not sleeping (dummy or other wise), not really drinking...playing for a bit then getting festy....looked at DH and said "Only other thing I have left in my arsenal to try...is farex"
    Looked at BJ and said "Lets got have some farex, which you won't eat, then we'll try a bottle which you won't drink, and then a nap which you won't have shall we" to which he just grinned.
    He ate his farex like a pro, had about 70ml of bottle (mucked around a little), then went to sleep!

    Im gonna try this reverse psych thing on him more often!
    So...he will have farex for dinner tonight, then, tomorrow morning, he'll have some for brekky, some for lunch, and then some squashed potato for dinner...do that for a coupla days, then I'll do some pumpkin...and away we go!

    The MCHN is gonna have a kitten....interestingly enough, the topic for wednesday is "Intorducing Solids" LOL...

  8. #8
    Registered User

    Nov 2007
    Murray Bridge, SA
    1,600

    Janine - how do you cue him to pee? Do you sit outside or inside (with sun coming in a window) - 'cause the wind is the coldest thing here so just being naked is the problem as the wind cuts right through you - even with the sun on you!

    Also, Liam moans too. Especially with his fingers in his mouth. Very funny when he has hiccups as it sounds like 'uh, oh'. He does this more when he's tired. Liam's also one of those babies that won't sleep until he's really tired. You're in for a fight if you try to get him to sleep when he's first showing tired signs. Have to wait until he's actually grizzling before you do the cuddle/rock to sleep thing.

    Grubi - the plastics argument is true for us adults too. There's heaps of discussion about the chemicals leeching into our drinking water, etc from the plastic bottes we all use every day. You've got the danger of glass breaking or chipping & bubs swallowing some glass too (happened just this week to another BB member - daughter nearly had to have surgery but luckily the glass just passed through her system). So it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't sort of thing!

    BW - wow! I'm starting to wonder if Liam isn't ready for some 'real food' as he just seems to muck about with his bottles a lot lately. He's also hungry within 3 hours still which I'm sure is annoying for him as it is for us. However, I'm not game to try any solids until I see the Cleft Clinic in September as we'll need to do it differently because of his cleft.

    Hello to everyone else! hope you're doing fine!

  9. #9
    Registered User

    Feb 2007
    230

    I'm a bit puzzled as to why the group needs to be split. I would have expected that we'd be consulted about this. Surely 'too big' is only too big if we all think it is?

    Fire my DS was a 20-minute napper for a long time. it used to irritate me when people would tell me to 'sleep when the baby sleeps'. What, for 20 minutes? I think you're doing well to get Ci to sleep in the cot, even if it's only half an hour. I've yet to have dd nap outside of the sling. Lucky she's such a little one or my back would be stuffed by now.

    Nettie we're also into sucking hands over here. And of course clasping them - so sweet.

    Shoegal happy birthday! Hope you have a wonderful time.

    Well dd has hit the magical three month mark today. I expect great leaps forward in her sleeping and napping behaviour!! The last few nights have to go down as her worst ever. She's so congested and her coughing wakes her up. Ugh.

  10. #10
    Registered User

    Jun 2007
    Melbourne
    981

    Hiya all!
    OOh fingers crossed that she improves MGM!
    Shoegal: HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!
    Nettie: Got the hand sucking going on here too...which is great cause he sucks his hands instead of the dummy.

    Nasty Mummy Dummy Removal Service is going well...hasn't had the dummy for hearly 2 days now, and as long as we don't get caught up and hit overtired, he's settling well! The amount of time it takes to settle is less and less and he's re-settling himself most times if he wakes.
    He's no longer wrapped (though because its been part of his routine I still do waist down so as not to change too many things at once), so at night time, from about 6pm its bottle (he usually has an arvo sleep from about 2 or 3 til 5:30 or 6pm...we wake him at 6), little play on the floor, bath, bit more bottle, nappy, waist wrap, into bed on his tummy, and a little bit off patting, then off to sleep.
    Then he'll wake anywhere between 1:30am and 3am for a feed, then straight back into bed, less than 5 mins of patting, then thats it til between 6 and 7....
    Im so proud of him!

    We are going to give some farex a go tomorrow night....he's constantly chewing his tongue, and I think he will enjoy it!!

  11. #11
    Registered User

    Feb 2008
    Tassie NW
    517

    Morning all,

    Have been away for few days. Got wardobes in they are wonderfull. Still trying to get orgainsed at the moment. I have boxes everywhere in lounge room. I washed all of my 00 clothes and hung up in NEW wardobes on Wyatt side. He is only just moving up, some stuff he still fits into 000 and he's got to be near 6.5-7kg. Love DS wardobe, have moved DD old pooh stick of old wardobe and put on his. Even love the design of a few draws on one side and double hanging on other side. DD, and Wyatt's not so much. We went to spotlight and brought some wall art sticker but haven't put them on. Would like another draw under the draw already there, so will have to get builder back. DD and DS will move rooms when Wyatt sleeps in his cot, and can settle himself.

    I haven't even tried to change Wyatt over yet, were still only in there for playing. Everyone here is SICK AGAIN. Wyatt is so congested I feel sorry for the little bugger. He seem to be back in routine again, which is GREAT.

    DS who we thought had cold/flew has an ear infection, which would explain why he is beings such a princess at the moment. He can cry at the drop of anything.

    FIRE: Is the room you put Ci in cold? I know Wyatt wont go to sleep in cold room, so we put heater on when he in there which help him sleep longer. But I would recommend buying the Ergo infant insert for the cost of $33 it will save your back/front. I couldn't manage without mine. Wyatt will sleep in his for up 4hrs along as I get up and guggle him now and then.

    BW: GREAT job on taking the dummy back.
    Nettie: We too go to town on our hand over here. It's like gold take it away from me and I will cry.

    Oh well I better go, we were ment to go to SNOW today but seem everyone is sick will have to go another weekend. So it's back to finish orgainsing kids wardobes and through heapsof junk out.

    Hope all are coping well.

    Cheers
    Sarah

    P.S. Will put photo of my GREAT wardrobe in galley.

  12. #12
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    Nov 2006
    over the blue mountains and then some...
    367

    HI all,

    Well first week back resulted in a trip to Sydney for training on Thursday and a very tired mummy!! I am luckythough, they let em take Luke to Sydney with me and are fine wiith me sitting in my office expressing and organising my appointments around expressing. The only problem I have had is that he tends to get fed more with his Nan than I would do. I think part of it is that DH's sister likes to feed him when she gets there in the afternoon and she didn't BF any of her 3 kids so neither her or Nan really get how precious the EBM is (i have found that this bottle only gets half drunk because Luke really doesn't need it so the remainder goes down the drain!!) I have had a chat to DH's mum and i think she gets it now. Also trying to train her to call me at lunchtime so I can feed him - had to have a talk about not only is feeding him a lunchtime something I want to do, it helps my supply and doesn't waste precious EBM! Luke is doing so well though - now into 0 sized clothes - giant big heffalump!

    Fire If you only want to express to build a supply and don't want to increase supply, express 20 - 40 mls after a feed when you feel quite full. Expressing will increase your supply so I did it gradually (and regularly) so that I wouldn't take food off Luke and wouldn't increase my supply to the point where I couldn't manage it.

    Have read all the posts, but tired and need to go into town to get more antibiotics (had mastitis last weekend and didn't get enough tablets for the 10 days). Miss you guys and it is great to hear that everyone is doing well.

  13. #13
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    Feb 2008
    Tassie NW
    517

    Shellbell:
    Cos Wyatt is sick, my boob's were hugh yesterday he hasn't had a good feed all day and he was fast asleep. So i got out my pump and expressed. However what i forgot to watch was how fast the little bottle filled up. Was off in own world and within 4-5 minutes of me pumping away the 200ml botle was full. Opps!!! So i got out some little sealer glad bags wrote date and into frezeer with it.

    So that boob felt good, just enough to take the hurting off still plenty left incase he woke up early. But my left boob was still acing, so on went the pump. I timed this one, it took me 3mins 35sec to fill it to 150ml. Again into bag into the frezeer it went.

    I never really expressed with 1#DS. I did a few times when I was too sick, and it took me like 10mins to get 150mls so never bothered. But this time am going to re-think it so I can go out without no children one day. I was so proud of my self.

    Question??? How long does Breastmilk last for?? It's in chest frezeer... And how long does it take to defrost??? what is the best way to heat up? In bottle in a container with hot water around it?
    Cheers
    Sarah

  14. #14
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    Dec 2005
    In Bankworld with Barbara
    14,222

    Hi. I have been reading some of your posts and noticed a few of you are unsure as to why we are splitting the group. It isn't because it is a large group or anything, it is so we can keep it in line with the March groups and all the groups from May onwards.

    So the new groups will be April 1st - 15th and April 16th - 30th - but you are all more than welcome to post across both groups.