Quick check in while DD is still asleep. After Isabel went down last night finally at about 11pm, she slept thru til about 5.15am which is awesome. Fed her in bed and back to sleep by 6am, it is now 8.45am.
But AJP - how are you getting Millie down so early in the evening??? Isabel just does not want to sleep between about 7pm and 10 or 11pm. Its like her witching period - she just cries cries cries until someone picks her up, then settles, then wakes and wants to feed, then cries more!
We really want to get her to sleep at 7pm... I guess we just need to give it more time?
Also are you one of the few people who actually ovulate while BF??? Interesting! My sister still has not ovulated and my niece is now 9mths old. She wanted to be pg by now so is really frustrated that she isn't!
Hope everyone has a good day today! DD and I are off into the city to meet friends for lunch today. Have had a few days at home so I'm over it!
op not sure how we get her down, though i do admit ive never had witching times with either girls, last night she slept in the sling til 6pm she woke, fed, had a bath with sophie, fed again then into bed at 7.15pm. some nights its later.
i hope im wrong about af, i didnt get it back til sophie was 9 months last time, hoping for the samw this time
have a great lunch today!
We had most the arvo witching hours yesterday and of course its the day Df had parent teacher so he wasn't home til 9:30. Thank god for the hugabub, only thing that saved my sanity, miss E just wanted to grizzle and be miserable.
AJP- Yay on millies weight, I hope AF isn't coming back, that'd suck getting it so soon this time! With Ash I remember mine coming once I'd dropped to 3 feeds a day.
OP- Em too often doesn't settle til 10ish at night, some nights she setlles earlier but average is about 10pm. Most evenings now I do our bedtime routine bout 7:45 then feed her, get comfortable in front of tv and cuddle her for a long while to get her into deep sleep.
tarkine- Looks like you have plenty milk, all those feeding frenzies he has prolly helped it along, is he getting a little more settled for you?
Nai- What movie did you see? Its great you got out, I think I'd be too tired to go out in the evenings anyway! Need to see a day movie I think, lol.
Ali- Thats great she'll spread out to 3hrs, I find during day Em will but later in evening its more like 2hrly, filling up i think before bed. DVD player be good, you can cuddle up with Ash and watch movies.
Got soaked this morn, we went to gymbaroo hot came out and the storm had arrived, running to the car with Ash and Em in the sling.
She spreading her feeds overnight to 4hrly now, just annoying when she wakes in between trying to fart!
Very happy Df is on school holidays now, have him home for next 2 weeks! yay, esp since we are going thru that 5-6 week mark that supposed to be the hardest.
Odette - fantastic weight gain hun!! I love how positive you are too. Makes me feel like we'll all get there in the end.
OP - Thanks so much for your post. It's good to hear that other babies the same age have been doing the same thing. Jacob also does that playing with the nipple thing but he can do it anytime during a feed. I know it will pass - has only been going for a week or less really but does seem to be getting worse! How was the city and catching up with your mates?
Meg - for the thrush. I know what a PITA it is. We are still treating DS and myself because his bum hasn't cleared up yet and I don't want it coming back!
SJ - Thanks for your support darl. 220g gain is fantastic!! So the fussing at the feeds hasn't stopped her putting on weight which is good to hear because it's what I'm mainly concerned about.
Ali - Great that you got out of the house and went shopping for yourself! It makes all the difference in the world. With the settling stuff, I guess we are both learning how to do it. I have had more success the past couple of days but usually after a feed and with the dummy and cuddles. It's good to finally be able to cuddle him without him screaming and if the dummy has achieved that then whoohoo for dummies I say! The fontanelles take a while to close over I think - not exactly sure but could be a couple of months or more. I still have fluid sitting in my belly but the good news is that my legs have returned to normal and my feet can wear shoes again!
Shell - Were you giving Em the bottle to make sure she'd take it? I've heard that some bf babies won't take it. That must have been so frustrating last time with DD1. Great that DP is home for the next fortnight. Hopefully you'll get some afternoon sleeps in now?
AJP - Fantastic weight for your DD! I hope you're looking after yourself - are you taking iron supplements? My heamoglobin has come up to 113 but I still get so tired!
Laura - How was your party?? Great photo hun! You look hot! How is the bf'ing going?
AFM - I think DS is the only non-porker here. He was still 20gm below his birth weight at 2 weeks 2 days old and then yesterday had only put on another 120gm (in 6 days). They want to keep weighing him weekly, which I'm happy with. The MCHNs are all saying positive things like "well it's a gain" and "you're doing really well" or my fave "you're trying really hard" but they've both said "hopefully next week we'll see a little more". How to put the pressure on!! So now he's being weighed again next Wed. The weeks are only 6 days long! It's hard when he is fussing so much - now on both sides some feeds worse than others. We had a nightmare night last night with him being unsettled and this last feed started at 3:50pm, he screamed and would not suck, even on the dummy at times (last fed at 12:30pm so should have been hungry). Left him for a while, tried each time he settled, eventually he fed at 4:50pm but it was reasonably short. Put him down. He then possited about 20 mins later and wouldn't re-settle so I broke the 2 hour thing and fed him again at 5:50pm and he had another shortish feed and has been reasonably settled since. I've put the fan on in our room (quite hot here today) hoping the background noise would help. I can't see how he can still put on weight with shorter feeds, possiting a lot and expending all that energy screaming.
Phew - sorry for the long me me me rant but I'm struggling at the moment. More teary the past few days and less patient with Jacob when he is fussing and not feeding properly. Sometimes we both end up in tears!
All, selfish question - Isabel is 6 weeks 2 days, today once she woke at 9 I fed her, changed and dressed her, at about 10 she seemed ready for sleeping so put her down - normal so far.
She grizzled for a bit then slept... went into the city and she slept all the way in, put her in the pram and she slept until close to 2.30pm
She had a half-hearted feed, then we took her home. Stopped to get something from Target and Coles near home, she fed a little and we changed her at the shopping centre, then she went back to sleep and slept all round the shops - about an hour. Then we came home - she grizzled a bit on the way home, I fed her one side when we got home and she fell asleep again. An hour later I fed her the other side and she's now asleep again.
She's pretty much been asleep all day, since about 10am. Any one else had something like this? Is it ok?
Her nappies have been normal... wet and pooey still... but she's just been so sleepy.
Is this ok? Growth spurt maybe??? She's never slept this much during the day before...
shell boy did it rain today we had soooooo much the rd was flooded
lucky duck having DP home, or is is it
kaz i was thinking about you today and wondering how your fluid was going and if it was going, glad to hear it is.
like you said a gain is a gain, its hard when they fuss and i wouldnt worry about not feeding 2 hourly, id do it if he needs its, millie has feed 2 hourly today. i have also had to use the dummy more, not that i want to but millie jsut loves to suck her hands.
op millie has done the same today, slept allllll day sometimes she has only lasted 40 mins before going back to bed not sure why either but i liked it as did sophie
sophie always slept more when she had a growth spurt
Anyway just wanted to say keep doing what you are doing... if its any help, I demand feed and when I say demand I mean demand... if she wants it hourly, she gets it hourly.
Oh and as for catching up with my mates, the two I was having lunch with stood me up - one of them let me know at 9am but I went in anyway as I was meeting other friends before and after the organized lunch, but the second one messaged me at ten to twelve (due to meet at 12.30pm) and said "Been called into a meeting, don't know what time it will finish and don't want to stuff you around or make you get wet so let's leave it".
Like hello... does she have any idea how much of an effort it was to get into the city, in the rain, with a six week old?? Sigh.
AJP nice to know it isn't just Isabel... we were a bit worried that she's sick or something but nappies are ok so...
Shell - yay for hols! Enjoy having DF home I know, how bad was the rain today! Saw an accident between a tram, a bus and two cars... there were fire trucks, ambos and police all attending. Looked bad...
AJP and OP - Yeah I'd been thinking about not watching the 2 hourly thing so much while he's being so fussy and unsettled at the feeds. So far, he hasn't really demanded feeding much before then anyway and sometimes he can take an hour to feed, change, burp, top up and settle anyway so it's only another hour or a bit less before I'm potentially feeding again anyway.
I would probably worry if Jacob slept that long in a day too - mainly because I'm getting it drilled into me that he needs to feed 6-8 times at least (for almost a week he fed 7 times a day every day - that changed yesterday though) and the MCHN were encouraging me to fit in another feed - I was like, when? Anyway - I bet they don't do it tomorrow!!
OP - that really sucks that you got stood up!! Obviously your mate doesn't realise how much effort it is to get into the city with a 6 week old!
AJP - I don't really like the dummy either but Jacob came out and sucked his fingers and it seems to be the only thing that will calm him down sometimes. We have used it heaps the last couple of days but about an hour ago he kept spitting it out and crying. The last time he did it, I was in the bathroom and couldn't get there straight away. By the time I went in to him a few mins later he was fast asleep and has been ever since I keep holding to the mantra that you can't give them bad habits this young. If he's still relying on it so heavily to settle in a few months time we might re-look at it.
op how rude!!! i'll meet you for lunch one day and i wont stand you up!!
kaz arrhh i see, i dont blame you, and hour break is not long is it pop into breastfeeding area if you need some help, barb glare is wonderful at answering questions!!
dummy millie usually spits it out and goes to sleep without it, so not too concerned!
oh and i just took my iron!!
off to dr for 6 week check up so going to ask some more questions regarding my iron levels
Kaz - I have a GF whose bubs refused the breast, and when she tried to feed him formula, he wouldn't take that, so she ended up having to express and bottle feed him breast milk. I know its probably no help but each baby is different and its a case of finding out what works for your bubs . Try not to feel pressured by the MCHN or anyone else... Just do what works for you.
Does bubs get sleepy after the feed? Just wondering if you need to change around your feed/play/sleep cycle (I had to - sleep, nappychange, then food, burping then sleep)
Gotta go Alex wants booby!
Back again - finally got him to sleep - was up at 7am because the neighbour had loud music.. tried to settle A down, just got him down and there was a loud thump (they were listening to beyonce/rap/dance music), so I put on my dressing gown, looked in the mirror to make sure that my hair was sticking out on ends and wrapped A up and we trundled next door to knock on the door - no answer so I knocked very assertively on the window and the music stopped and no one turned up to talk to me, so we left. Then of course we were up for the day, and I've only just got A down for sleep - no more daytime naps for me!! Went to the GP and got the all clear. Stupid Babyco still haven't got our pram in yet, and the pram they lent us, the tyres keep going flat.. argh, so my exercise has been restricted.
Last edited by Malyna; April 3rd, 2009 at 08:37 PM.
OP - How bl@@#y rude of your friend!! Not only is it a major feat to get into the city with a 6 week old but also on a day like today - you deserve a medal!
Kaz - I'm sorry to hear that J is still fussing at the breast. He is still gaining weight which is good but as Jols said an hour isn't very long Barb may be able to help.
Shell - we went to see the Watchmen. It was 2hrs 40min!! We went to the Sun Theatre in Yarraville so we were able to buy wine and have that while watching the movie - it was pretty decadent for new parents
Meg - I hope the chiro helps and that you can get some rest over the weekend
AJP - I hope it isn't AF. That would really suck! I'm still bleeding slightly but the OB said it is still normal
AFM - had my 6 week check at the OB today so had to catch the bus there and back in the thunderstorm with a pram with 2 kids - not my idea of a fun day out! Anyway all is good and I can drive again now woohoo!! DP also booked in to get the snip in May. Miss J had a bad day yesterday as she only had 2 x 45min sleeps all day. However she then slept from 6pm to 2am - yes 8 hours!! She must have been sooo tired, poor little thing.
for the thrush. I know what a PITA it is. We are still treating DS and myself because his bum hasn't cleared up yet and I don't want it coming back!
He was still 20gm below his birth weight at 2 weeks 2 days old and then yesterday had only put on another 120gm (in 6 days). They want to keep weighing him weekly, which I'm happy with. The MCHNs are all saying positive things like "well it's a gain" and "you're doing really well" or my fave "you're trying really hard" but they've both said "hopefully next week we'll see a little more". How to put the pressure on!! So now he's being weighed again next Wed. The weeks are only 6 days long! It's hard when he is fussing so much - now on both sides some feeds worse than others. We had a nightmare night last night with him being unsettled and this last feed started at 3:50pm, he screamed and would not suck, even on the dummy at times (last fed at 12:30pm so should have been hungry). Left him for a while, tried each time he settled, eventually he fed at 4:50pm but it was reasonably short. Put him down. He then possited about 20 mins later and wouldn't re-settle so I broke the 2 hour thing and fed him again at 5:50pm and he had another shortish feed and has been reasonably settled since. I've put the fan on in our room (quite hot here today) hoping the background noise would help. I can't see how he can still put on weight with shorter feeds, possiting a lot and expending all that energy screaming.
but i liked it 
I know, how bad was the rain today! Saw an accident between a tram, a bus and two cars... there were fire trucks, ambos and police all attending. Looked bad...
. Try not to feel pressured by the MCHN or anyone else... Just do what works for you.
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