Babies Born January 2008 #2

[sazzafrazz]

Oh Nik, sorry to hear you are having a hard time with supply It is really the hardest thing about a baby I think, the bf thing! I know what you mean about trying to enjoy the new baby time but getting caught up with all the feeding caper. Just keep doing your best and be rest assured you have done what you could! Amy is lucky to have a Mum who is working so hard at it
Dayl & Hindonly, I think your bubs are still working day/night out too. Celeste is slowly getting there but we spend each night awake for 1+1/2 - 2 hours in the early hours then she has a good solid sleep in the late morning. I am waking her to feed every 3 hours inthe arvo and she then snacks on and off all evening. I am hoping that she is full enough to sleep for a good block in the night then. Last night she was down from 11.30pm till 4.15am which is her longest ever but then awake till almost 6am. It is tricky isnt it?
Hindonly, I am worried that my supply might slow on the left now too. I was exclusively expressing for the first 10days and my supply was getting huge but now that she has been boob only for almost 3 days the left isnt getting much of a work out. It is getting quite sore underneath and, Oh my, my poooor nipple!!! I swear she is trying chop it right off! Plus I am kind of a redhead and they usually get sorer for some reason? I am wondering if it is just my technique isnt so good on the left? I use transition hold and my left hand to guide the nipple in which isnt exactly my good hand... seeing the Cafs nurse again on tues so will get some more tips then.
Bindy, I say keep doing whatever works!!! My friends have a cosleeper cause that is all that would work for them and they dont care what anyone else says. As long as she is getting good restful sleep so she can grow, that is all that matters (and that it is a safe place of course).
Hi Tiff, I feel the same sometimes, that I dont come on for days at a time. Im pretty sure everyone here understands. Plus you have 2 others to care for too!!! Good to hear that things are going so well for you now. Lets touch wood on that one!
Sending labour vibes to Karen, Jess and Jen... Come on bubbas, your Mums are eager to meet you!
Me; didnt cry at all yesterday or today so far! Yay! lol. Celeste is confusing me with her feeding messages. I cant work out if she wants more or needs burping or what! On the bottle I knew how much she was getting and could work out what she needed but now I have no idea, especially since my attachment isnt the greatest and I wonder if she is on properly and actually getting anything. I guess she isnt even 2 weeks yet so I will get to know her better soon... She has changed so much already. I said to her yesterday when I picked her up from a 3hour sleep "have you changed since I put you down only 3hours ago?" She just smiled, so I took that for a "yes". lol.

[Mads]

Morning everyone!

Lots of interesting discussions at the moment, will try for some personals today if missy stays sleeping!

Sazz, for the hospital stay, it sounds like it was a nightmare for you but glad some good came out of it. Hope you continue to improve and work out what is right for the two of you and your sanity! I havent cried today either!!

Bindy, Adeline likes her bouncer when she is awake and bounces happily for awhile, but then will start screaming- I think she feels abandoned in it- she is happy when I stay there and chat to her but if I move away (ie back to watch tv) she cries! We do a little cosleeping, my DH is better than I am, during the night after a feed Addy can stay restless and want cuddles- Dh puts her against him and they sleep for hours. When I do it she often nuzzles for a feed, or I cant sleep cause I wake scared that I have rolled on her!

Karen, hon you dont need our permission to stay with this thread, its a public forum remember. I think your confidence is down from last week!! Just stay, chat and know you are welcome.

Dayl, we arent in a regular pattern yet for day sleeps. I think we are sleeping and feeding better in the day and awake and unsettled more at night. I am not too worried though. I have been reading a pinky mackay book about babies and have decided that I agree with her that bubs dont actually know routine and she will sort herself out in good time! As long as I get some sleep, I am doing ok!

Nik, hugs on the weight gain and feeding issues. You sound like mentally you are doing really well with it all. Dont forget you can offload on us anytime!

[sazzafrazz]

Hi everyone!
Just thought I would let you know that I have written Celeste's birth story up. Sorry it is a bit long!!!

[Deltadawn]

Hindonly - Thanks for the info re daytime sleeping. I must admit that although he does wake every 2.5 - 3 hours during the night, he is very easy to put back in his cot so I shouldnt really complain and when I get up in the morning I'm not too tired as our night time feeds only last about 15 minutes. I guess there are others out there a lot worse off.

NikW - Good luck with the weight gain and your weigh in again on Sunday. Like Bindy, I started out determined to only breastfeed and when it didnt go to plan, I felt a little guilty about going to formula but now, I wouldnt change anything. I love formula feeding and Fraser is thriving on it. I was expressing for the first four weeks but slowly my supply dwindled to almost nothing so it just isnt worth my time expressing now just to give him one feed a day of breastmilk.

Bindy - Fraser usually eats between 40-60ml at a time during the day and sleeps in 3 hour blocks and 90-120ml at night and also sleeps in 2.5 - 3 hour blocks so I dont know what the deal is. I guess he knows how much he wants to eat and how much he wants to sleep and he is healthy and happy so I"m going to let him work his own routine out. I was also reading something on the internet about co-sleeping and it is being more and more recommended by health professionals so if it is working for you, I say stick with it.

Sazzafrass - Celeste sounds about the same as Fraser as far as eating/sleeping patterns go. Like I said above, I"m going to let Fraser work his own little routine out because it isnt like I"m up with him for hours at night. He is very good at night.

Hawksey - I feel for you! We have our unsettled period around 5-6pm (just in time for when Daddy comes home to take over!!!) and I would hate it if it was during the night like you. I guess I should count myself lucky. At least you're getting sleep though so that is one good thing.

Well, I'm not going to try to keep Fraser awake again. He got really cranky and then he wouldn't feed so I ended up with a screaming squawking tired and hungry baby who wouldnt settle until about 30 minutes ago and although he seems to be asleep, I think it is a really light sleep as he keeps crying out in his sleep which means we are probably in for a rough afternoon too! He only drank 30ml before heading off to sleep so I dont think he'll be down for long. It seems I've created a vicious cycle now for the rest of the day (and probably night too). You live and learn.

[Kristielee]

Hi Girls
I havent posted in a while been a bit busy with Riley and Kinder and 2 children is a little different than one IYKWIM! But all is well with Jemma she is growing rapidly as far as I know anyway but see the health nurse today so shes on as of yesterday evrey second feed of formula due to me being over feeding already I love it in lots of ways but hate it in others guess i should just get over it as I have never had any dramas with feeding with both kidlets but I just dont think its really for me thats all feel selfish when some of you really wanted to do it but cant or couldnt but I spose everyones different hey at least I can say I am getting her off to a good start with Breast milk and then swapping to formula hopefully wont be too scrutinsed (sp?) by the older generation of family So I am thinking by six weeks (she is 4weeks tomorrow) I will wean her off totally for me I know but she doesnt mind the bottle at all

Ummm has anyone had poo issues I am wondering if its the formula... But she hasnt pooed in 4 or 5 days Argh and before that it was heaps then went to one every second day now nothing!??? I know they can go upto 10days without a poo though so not too worried just would like her to be more regular so we dont get that power poo soon that goes everywhere Aaahhhh

Ok well shes crying so better go hope all are well and souns like most of you are
BBL Kristie

[~Belinda~]

Hi everyone,

Sorry I have been MIA for the past few days, just been busy with everything and packing for our move IYKWIM!

Kristie, on the breastfeeding issue, it really wasn't for me either. I really praise all those women out there that perservere with it, cracked/bleeding/sore nipples and everything! I certainly couldn't keep going, I was crying at every feed and there was no way I was going to be unhappy as I'm sure Madeleine was picking up on it! She's now a FF baby and is super healthy and happy. I don't find making up the bottles a hassle at all. Good luck with the poo issue...Madeleine does a big one every day and it goes everywhere....!

Karen, sending you lots of labour vibes.

Nik, so happy that Amy has put on weight, awesome news. If you have to go on formula then I'm sure that will be fine.

Joralyd, well said on the breastfeeding thing! I totally agree with you. Happy Mummy = Happy Baby.

Well we are moving on Saturday so I will be MIA for a while as the internet at our new place won't be up and running until approximately 20 February so I won't be coming on at all for a while. Don't worry though, I'll be back before you know it. I'm sure you won't miss me...always so much else to talk about, lol

[jenjams]

Hi Ladies,

Still here and no movement at the station...

Sazz I just read your birth story. OMG what a time Celeste put you through! Wow is all I can say.

[QueenMab]

Hi Ladies, hope everyone is having a good day.

God I wish there was some decent food in this house...!! DP keeps bringing things home for (& making, bless him) dinner but seems to forget that I also need to eat when he's not here!

Bindy - I am impressed by your positive attitude on going out/shopping with bub - I have been contemplating taking Scally into work to see everyone for a week, decided I'd go today but realised this morning before I got out of bed that one of the main people I want to see her doesn't work today... aw damn... lol Now I'll have to talk myself into going sometime next week... it's just that I keep thinking of negative scenarios, like what if she starts screaming & will not stop?!

Dayl - IKWYM about keeping baby awake, I've done that accidentally a couple of times, thinking 'She'll sleep if she's tired' but oooooohhhh no. I don't think there is much worse than an overtired baby... I have certainly learnt my lesson!!

Hawksey - I haven't said this yet, thought it but forgot to say, Adeline is a lovely name...

Has anybody heard anything of Maz...?? I hope things are going great for them.

Scarlett has been waking up every 15-20mins for the last hour, has about 3 sucks on bb the goes back to sleep!! As long as she's not screaming I don't mind atm.

Our co-sleeping has been going extremely well, she's sleeping longer at night now & settling quite quickly after her feeds, although her feeds are still quite long at night. Often I feed her while I'm still lying down & she is swaddled & we both end up asleep in the end.

Ooh, there is a bit of a grizzle, might go get myself a drink before I'm on Mummy duty again....

[s361768]

Hi Everyone,

My body is being treated like a holiday resort as of today - I really am interested in what triggers labour and how the baby or body knows it is time - because consciously I am over it.

Bindy and Jo - my 1st and 3rd son's had blocked tear ducts.

My third son was worse in terms of controlling infection and the length of time he had it - his eye continually watered and would get infected (despite massage, breast milk did help though - esp. with the reddening around his eye), people always asked about it because his eye was always watery and red. We used antibiotics on and off to control it, antibiotics you're not meant to use for more than a few days.

His eye finally cleared up completely around 6 months ago (it was all of a sudden). It was getting to the point where our GP said he would have to go off to a specialist to have treatment - but I am glad we gave it some more time - apparently the op doesn't always work and it can flare back up again. I think you are not able to take bubby for the surgery until after 6 months, however I got told it generally clears up by around the 12 month mark on its own.

[joralyd]

Hi girls I made it back woohooo! except I forgot everything I just read arg! i'll try and remember some things...

On the breast feeding subject I also have a left side feeder LOL although it's better now I ended up with grazing and the start of mastitus so I had to get him over to the dark side before It got too bad, thankfully he's worked it out now.............oh speaking of boobies, I'll be back later need to feed Luca

[Billy Ocean]

Hey girls,

I've just been hanging out in the Jan buddies thread with Jen and Jess. I can't wait 'til we're all in here together...

Hope everyone's going great.

x

[Tascha]

Hello Lovely Mummies and Bubbies,

Maz.. Thinking of you!

Been ages since my last "check in". Thought on posting my birth story and my breastfeeding story as well. Sorry for the lack of personals. Im not sure when ill be able to catch up on that!

JOSHUA's Day of Arrival.

Ok.. On Wednesday 23rd I was booked in for another Midwife appt as I was 41+4 weeks. She did an Internal Examination and found me about 1cm dilated. Was booked in then for a induction for the following evening using the gel. On Thursday, DH and I went out shopping.. bowling.. hanging out with my family. Was experiencing some BH in the morning.. but by the afternoon they got a little more intense. Once at the hospital the midwife did another internal and found that I had dilated to 2cm. She "stirred" things up a little more and said that we where free to go home and let "nature" do the rest. Once I was home.. I was in labour.. !!! Did not sleep a wink. Paced the living room. Watched a little telly. TIRED to sleep. The contractions where getting to about 3-4 min apart .. but as the sun came up... they slowed right down!! HOW FRUSTRATING!!! I was due to return to Hospi at 7am so no need to rush now! At the hospi they did another internal... YAY... more dilated. So my waters where broken and the show was on the road. I had the gas, but found it made me loose focus and feel kinda sick. So the bath and shower where my friend. I think I screamed the whole ward to attention.. !! Funny when I think back.
Then at around 5pm that night the midwife was noting the baby's heartbeat and during my contractions .. the heart rate was dropping very low.. then steadily get back to normal between the contractions. Seeing I had been awake for 36 hours and in labour for a good part of that.. they called the doc's in. Baby was far enough down to deliver vaginally.. PHEW!! The doctors pulled him out via suction cap. OUCH!!! Joshua Damien was born at 6.10pm. Thankfully .. after the tests where done on his ambilical cord... he was pulled out in time! Any longer.. as I was later told.. and his oxygen supply would have been cut off!!! SCARY!! I ended up with a third degree tear but the little angel was well worth it!

I have had some breast feeding problems.. due to his tongue being stuck to his mouth more forward than the norm. Seems to be in the family I was later told by my mum. So he can not stick is tongue out as far as the rest of us. And that .. apparently... is hindering my latching on! We are doing ok now. After him loosing more weight once home.. and being told he need to eat!! DUH!! My boobies where SO SORE.. I cried and cried thinking it was never going to get better! I persisted.. and although my nipples are still sore.. the little man is feeding well.. and the pain of initial latching on is only brief.

Ok .. that was enough rambling on from me. The little man is due for another boobie.. so id better get going. Hopefully I can settle in a "routine" of some description and catch up with all you lovely ladies some more very soon. Fabulous to read everyone's stories!
Take Care
Tascha and Joshua

[Mad Scientist]

Hi ladies,

Am here pumping away as usual. Very tiring but hopefully it will pay off. My boobies are fuller but nothing like they were when my milk first came in. The most I've been able to express is 40ml. For some reason I get more late at night. Must be because I'm too tired to stress out......she's been a boobie monster today. hopefully that's a positive sign, although she sucks really well for max 10 minutes and then kinda just gives up and bludges....oh well. weigh in tomorrow will tell us how she's going....

Tascha - thanks for the birth story. so glad everything turned out well. breast feeding can be so difficult!

thanks for the well wishes everyone else. It's so nice to be part of this group. i can't believe some people would have bad opinions of women who use formula. I mean if you have no other choice because your body or your baby just aren't working in sync, what do they expect you to do, let your little one starve?! Anyway, i better go before she wakes up again. today has been interesting to say the least. there we go, she's now stirring. thanks again for the kind words ladies. sorry for the lack of personals xxx nik and amy

[joralyd]

Hi girls, Tascha thanks for your birth story I'm so glad Joshua came safely Nik I hope Amy picks up her feeding soon so you don't have to express for too long.

[~Belinda~]

Nik, can't wait to hear how much Amy weighs, good luck tomorrow! As for people forming opinions on formula fed babies, it's really unfair as Madeleine is now formula fed and is so happy. I am happy too and we really enjoy each other every day. I don't care what anyone thinks, it's about Madeleine and I and what makes us happy. Every baby is different, every Mum is different. My little girl is healthy and that's all that matters to me.

Thanks Tascha for sharing your birth story.

Karen, I was over it too! I took EPO, RLT and DTD a bit to bring Madeleine on but still chose to be induced (even though I was 2cm dilated anyway!) at 40w+3d! I was sooooooooooooo over it at the end and was glad when I met my little one!!

Queen, you'll go out soon and love it! Scarlett will be fine. As for co-sleeping, that's fantastic it's going well. Madeleine also co-sleeps with us and it's awesome! She won't go down in her cot no matter how much we try anyway. But she fed at 6.30pm last night and didn't wake until 4.30am this morning for a feed. So that's a 7, 8 and 10 hour break this week...hopefully she's cut out that early morning feed because we're getting more sleep, she's happy and everything is going well. Let's cross our fingers though!

Dayl, yeah will stick with the co-sleeping for now, nothing else is working anyway! Hope Fraser is well!

Hawksey, isn't it funny how they love their bouncers! Madeleine adores hers to sleep in all day.

Thanks Sazz, will carry on with the co-sleeping!

Today was a good day, Madeleine smiled tonnes, we went to visit Nanny and Pop, it was fun. I get sad though because my Dad passed away from a long illness in August last year (while I was pregnant) and I wish he was here to see Madeleine but I know he's at peace now and watching over her. She'll only have my DP's Dad and I will make sure she knows all about her Pa who died last year. I really miss you Dad

Well off to have some dinner, my DP has cooked us pasta!

Have a good night everyone.

Love Bindy xo

[joralyd]

I went through the same feelings with my first baby, he was born with a high palette and I had flat nipples so it made bf'ing a bit tricky, I started using nipple shields in the hospital and then I couldn't get off them, when they weighed him he wasn't gaining weight and by 6 weeks the pediatrition said I need to suppliment his feeds with formula, well ofcourse he wouldn't go back to the breast after having it so easy with the bottle so I ended up in tears and fully bottle feeding, I tried expressing but only got a little out at a time and I was exhausted. I was devistated I felt like a falure and was pretty sensative to what people would say but I look back now and I think I was more worried about what others thought than what was actually the best thing for my boy kwim? It's an emotional roller coaster we all want to do the best and we're all told breast is best but it's not always possible. Bindy good on you for trying and your right it IS what's best for baby and you than is most important
...... Wow listen to me! I think I must have issues still

Here's a question for you all is anyone using a dummy? and have you had anyone put their oppinion to you about them?

[JCE0810]

Sorry i havent been in here lately Ladies had friends & family visiting and been busy being a mum SO WEIRD!!.
I've been checking in and reading the posts but cant remember what has been said my baby brain has been in overdrive haha.

Tiff- i've given Sophie a dummy a few times and MIL wasnt too impressed but didnt stop me from giving it to her. I only use the dummy to settle her otherwise i dont use it.

[Mel:D]

Hi everyone! Congratz to everyone I've missed and thank you to all the gilrs how wrote on our birth anouncement. We've been home for 1 week today and Flynn is doing really well. I been mostly checking in on Jen & jess on the Jan thread but can't wait until they have their bubs so we can all be here. there seems to a lot of you I haven't meet so hi! Have just tried to catch up on the jan thread will try to catch up on this one next time. hope everyone is going well with the feeding & sleeping, Flynn still doesn't have a pattern and my boobs are going crazy and sore he either sleeps so much I have to wake him or is awake feeding like a mad man. have the child health nurse coming on monday so will be good to see if he has put on weight. its been really hot here and is anyone having a hard time knowing what to dress them in when they go to sleep? I get worried he'll get too cold but its so hot dh wants to just have in a singlet. anyhow will try and keep up. hope everyone has a good night sleep tonight xx Mel

Ps - Maz lots of love & hugs your way mate hope all is better with little mateuz.