who hoo!! he self settled!!! he's still asleep, touch wood, and I hope he stays that way!

went to my mothers group and the nurses who it run took Charlie off me right away and said 'oh my god you look terrrible' - so I guess the makeup I put on before going was a waste of time! But is was really good, I'm glad I went, got heaps of good tips about settling and sleeping and it seems I am letting him get way too tired before putting him to bed.

One question though - you're supposed to feed them then let them play for a little bit and then put them to bed when they show signs of tiredness, so they go into a deep sleep but then go into a light sleep and can sometimes wake up in the light sleep bit - If they wont go back to the deep sleep are you supposed to get them up or just leave them there? I know that all sounds a bit too clinical - but I'm just not sure what to do with him if we wont settle in bed - I imagine that if you keep getting him up then he'll just get tired and confused. like me...

Fee - Cooper sounds like Charlie, he does that too - perhaps I will try this rollover feed thingo and see if he will sleep through the night. At the moment he definitley has a 7 to 8 hour sleep but you just can't predict when it will be

Bubs - it's hard when bubbies have a tummy ache - try using Brauers Colic relief because that also helps settle baby tummies and maybe that will be enough to stop her grizzling. Poor litle poppet

Kelly - I will have to read back through your posts - but that sounds a bit tough - I don't think I would be able to handle that either. But at least you know it's for her own good and she will be happier afterwards, it's like I don't know how people can pierce their childrens ears, it was really painful when I got it done at age 16 - I can't imgaine how painful it would be for a baby and how you would cope with it (no offence to anyone who pierces their childrens ears - I just don't think I could cope with the pain side of it)

oh cr*p he's awake - ok so I'll just leave him be for a bit and see if he goes back off to sleep or not..... waiting waiting waiting....


Em