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    I left Evan today for a few hours with DH and missed a feed - the first feed I've ever ever missed! I had to go out unexpectedly, so left DH with some EBM. But Evan wasn't interested in the EBM (he's never had it before and wouldn't take it from a bottle or sippy cup) but he had a great 2 hour sleep this afternoon and ate all his solid meal so he was fine! i gave him a BF when i got home. I'm feeling really good now and more confident that i could leave him for a few hours now to do something more fun (i had to go today because my mum decided to have her 7yr old dog put to sleep after biting someone - has a history of aggression, but has been a companion and best friend for my mum since divorce so was a hard decision and i think she made it mainly with Evan in mind).


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    Hey all,
    Hope you are all good and had a nice weekend!

    last night i left max with my mum for a couple of hours to go out for dinner. when i came home found out that he had cried the whole time saying ma ma she tried to give him a bottle but he wouldnt take it. i felt so bad. when i got home he was still crying and then just gave me a cuddle and went to sleep straight away. it sort of made me more stressed about leaving him, although i know the more i leave him the easier he will get.

    Brooke- it must be hard for you with your mum in nsw.
    so great that you were able to establish a r/ship with your MIL that you are able to feel comfortable leaving maya with her.
    I feel alot of pressure to leave max with my MILs but just dont feel comfortable leaving him with them. maybe things will change as he gets a bit older.. i dont know...? Thanks for your advice.. i appreciate

    Lisa- i am sure you are right i must get easier leaving them .. at the moment it just gets me so upset but i am sure once i feel more comfortable leaving him it will get better

    LG-
    Congratulations on missing a feed! so sad about your mums dog though.. hopefully next time you miss a feed it will be under happier circumstances


    hey everyone else hope you are all good!

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    Hi guys, I'm having a few difficult days with Coby, he's got a cold, just came on yesterday but must have been brewing for a few days prior to that as he's been in a horrible mood and wouldn't sleep no matter what I did. Anyway, I've got some medication for him now so hopefully that will ease it all a bit for him.

    I have been having heaps of problems with my cycle, I've been bleeding now for approximately 45 days, I know, its terrible! Anyway, went to gyno today and he was keen to give me a hysterectomy!! Because I have had heaps of problems and had to go through IVF to conceive Coby, so I guess he figured that it was time to get rid of it all and be done with it. But I told him that I wasn't really ready to commit to not having any more children, so we've put it off (the hysterectomy) and I've got to go under and have a hysteroscopy (scan of uterus etc) and a curette, PLUS, he wants to give me an IUD - Im really not keen on this because I am hoping upon all hope that I will fall pregnant naturally (not that its likely, but you never know). Im just so upset about it all, its just horrible. Why can't I just be "normal" like everyone else and not have to go through this rubbish?? DH is now saying he's "not sure" if he wants any more kids, because it will mean more rounds of IVF and he's not prepared to go through that heartache again. So there's another strain on me, facing the fact that he might not want any more kids.....AAARRRGGHHHH I just don't know what to do for the best, I was thinking that I would just keep trying naturally and if in about 2-3 years if I hadn't fallen, I would consider IVF again.....Im not getting any younger and don't want to leave it till my fertility drops dramatically....

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    Bel - don't worry, my cycle is a mess. I have PCOS, when that was diagnosed years ago I was told the chances of me falling pg naturally were practically nil. (PCOS causes you to have hardly any periods and very rarely, if at all, ovulate). Anyway, all 3 of my kids were conceived naturally (plus there was a pg after I had Cooper that I lost). I've heard soooooo many stories of people having IVF etc and then falling pg naturally afterwards. So don't give up hope. Just try naturally and see what happens. Actually, don't really "try" so to speak, because it usually happens when you least expect it.

    Anyway, my cycle has been all over the place, I'd get a period, it would stop for a few days, come back for a few more, then it would be 5 weeks and I'd get another...then I'd get it for a couple of weeks..then I'd think it had stopped only to have it come back a week later. I did ring my Ob's and the nurse there said wait and see what several cycles do, if they don't go back to normal to go in and see them. Would be hard in your case though with only one child and being told to have a hysterectomy. Could you go on the pill for a little while? Just so you can have a break from your period or at least normal periods for a while?

    Isn't it a pain being female!

    Brooke - I didn't realise about the anxiety problems. Before you know it you'll have finished your prac, though.

    Linds - that's so sad about the dog. We got a dog from PAWS a couple of years ago, gorgeous little thing, but it started to get really possessive of me and doing weird things like taking a dump in the middle of the kids room (as if to say "I want your mum to myself, here's what I think of you kids). Anyway, she snapped at DH one day (just like a warning thing, he tried to get him off the lounge) and he said if he ever snapped at the kids, he was out of here. Of course one day the dog snapped at Riley and he was only 2 at the time, he didn't have the reflexes to move his hand, so it actually bit him. Not a savage bite, was like a warning snap but it still hurt Riley and scared him. So I rang up PAWS and told them they'd have to take the dog as we couldn't keep him. So the woman just said to me "You'll have to retrain the dog and teach the boys to be dominant over him". How do you teach a 2 year old to be dominant over a dog? Anyway, they took the dog back and he got adopted out again which made me feel a bit better. I was so upset when he had to go but I didn't want to risk my kids being bitten again.

    Makenzie has a cold as well. She was pretty miserable yesterday and still not happy today, took her ages to get to sleep for her nap but then she slept nearly 3 hours so can't complain. The boys are at school/pre-school today so am enjoying the peace and quiet.

    Doh, she just hit her face on the bottom shelf of the desk, better go comfort her.

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    Hey Lisa, thanks for the positive slant to my probs, it made me feel heaps better. Gee you girls in here are good hey!! I have certainly had a better afternoon, so thank you all.

    DH and I have decided to go au natural for a while and just see what eventuates. If nothing well, we might reconsider IVF in a couple of years, but not really keen to even think about that just yet. So Im crossing everything that I fall naturally.

    Am thinking about going to an accupuncturist - has anyone used one? What do you think??

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    hi bel, so great to hear you are feeling a bit better... great idea to try au naturel i have heard of so many people falling pregnant that way after years of trying.
    a friend of ours used a chinese herbalist in surry hills in sydney . they had been trying for a long time and werent too hopeful but fell pregnant almost straight away. i can try and find out her name if you like?? I have also heard of another one who specialises in fertility called catherine chan i saw her website once.. you could try googling her name.. think she is in norther nsw.. centrral coast maybe??DH had a realative who saw her.. and they fell pregnant but after unsuccessful IVF not sure how long it took though

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    wow thanks Lozi, yes if you could find out the herbalists name that would be great. I might google the other one you mentioned too.

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    Thanks for your support over the dog. I know it was the right decision - can't even imagine how awful it would be if he had ever gotten to Evan - but it's still hard because he was a part of the family.

    Hope the pracs going well for you, Brooke. At least Maya is settled with your nana and MIL (2B!). It's really really hard to leave them so i can't imagine what you are going through with your own seperation issues. Thank you for sharing. I know i'm hopeless leaving Evan, and he's always fine! Me, I'm glued to my mobile phone!! LOL!! You should be really proud of yourself for continuing with the prac. I think you're fantastic. I often keep an eye on your website - i love watching Maya grow - she's really very beautiful.

    Evan has started pulling himself up on his activity table lately. he's actually on his knees playing with it at the moment. Sometimes when he gets up on his feet it topples over on top of him. Hasn't ever really hurt him, but he gets a bit of a fright. He's crawling comando style everywhere now (so fast!), he can get up on all fours but doesn't move much like that yet.

    I was meaning to ask, Evan absolutely LOVES the water (we take him swimming once a week and he loves going underwater and falling in from the side, and making loads of splashes etc) but he is terrible to bath because he won't stay still. We can't get him to sit down! I bought a bath mat thinking maybe it was too slippery but that didn't make any difference, i've given him toys to amuse him, but he still just wants to swim, kicking his arms and legs, jumping up and down and laughing all the time. Any suggestions as to how to get him to sit still for a couple of minutes?????

    Linds

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    Oh and i also meant to say to belinda, i am beginning to suspect that there are far less "normal" cycled people than i used to think!! I was diagnosed with PCOS (despite having very few of the characteristics associated with it), and it took us 2 cycles of using clomid to concieve Evan after 6 months of waiting for my period to arrive since going off the pill! I'm also starting to think now how to go about concieving #2 (not that there's any major hurry) but I haven't had any hint of a cycle (well for about 2 years now!) and am starting to wonder if i'll have to wait until i stop BFing before using clomid again. Or if my body will just jump start iteself. I think it's great that you've decided to try naturally for a while. I think the best thing to do is just relax and not to get stressed and anxious over it. Good luck!

    Linds

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    Linds - with PCOS I think it takes a while for you to get your period back if you are b/f. I b/f Cooper for 13 months, I don't think I got a period until he was 9 months. After that, though, they became somewhat regular (every 6 weeks), so it was almost like a normal cycle. I managed to conceive Riley in about 5 months and we weren't even trying LOL. I think once you've fallen pg and had a baby your body realises "what to do" and it's usually much easier to conceive second time around. I don't really have that many characteristics that go with it either (the PCOS). I only got diagnosed by chance because I stopped the pill as I thought it was contributing to my migraines and didn't get a period for 6 months so they did a blood test then an ultrasound and diagnosed it. You'd be surprised how many people are around that do have PCOS though.

    You might have to buy him an inflatable pool and throw some soap in that each day! LOL.

    Brooke - How can I look at Maya's website? It asks me for a password now. Did you block me? LOL

    Bel - what's the bet you fall pg within the next couple of months because you're expecting it to take a while!

    Makenzie's been rotten with her day naps the last couple of days - once she's asleep she's fine, but getting her to sleep is a fight. I'm terrible, too, coz I can't stand to leave her crying in the cot for long, but if I go in that makes her worse. So I have to persevere and if she gets too distressed I go in. Took me two goes today, finally she went to sleep. I don't know whether it's because she has a cold or whether she just wants to play all day long!

    We had such a hectic morning. DH took the Ford in early this morning to get something fixed, so of course he goes out to start the other car so I can take the boys to school/pre-school - and it had a flat battery! So we ring the NRMA (road service) and that car is not covered by our road service so we would have had to pay some ridiculous amount to get it started. So he had to phone a neighbour to see if he could get it jump started. Luckily Cooper is within walking distance of school (he was hoping he could stay home LOL) but Riley's pre-school isn't so of course Riley was bawling coz he thought he was going to miss out. Finally got him there an hour late. You never get flat batteries when you have the other car to use though LOL.

    Anyway, better go get myself organised and clean this place up. I have to keep so on top of vaccuuming and picking up the boys toys etc now missy can get around.

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    I just went to look at your site again too, Brooke and it does ask for a password!

    I just Looked at your lovely boys and Makenzie too, Lisa - what gorgeous children you have!! Look like a handful tho! I can't imagine how you cope with THREE! I have enough trouble getting everything done and look after one! Let alone throwing in car dramas too!! I can't listen to Evan crying either - I tried once a few weeks ago and it was a disaster! He sleeps much better when i BF or rock him to sleep and its far less stressful for all of us!

    We are in the process of going from 3 to 2 sleeps during the day. It does seem to suit him better and he is sleeping for longer (1-2 hours) each time. When he had 3 sleeps, by the last few weeks i was lucky to get 45mins out of him, especially at the end of the day! I always find it difficult to juggle his sleeping around things i have to do during the day tho! For example, today we are meeting with our mothers group at 2pm which is exactly the time i would usually put Evan down for a sleep, and tomorrow Evan has an appt with the baby eye specialist (to get a discoloruation of his left eye checked out) at 9.50am in town and he would usually go to bed at 9.30am!

    Linds

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    Linds - LOL, I don't get things done with three! Besides, if I tidy and clean etc it's all just trashed within minutes it looks like I've done nothing all day anyway. You can't imagine the amount of time I spend in our laundry, either! Boys make their clothes putrid and then change them again several times a day!

    Kenzie's usually really good with going to sleep, I can put her in the cot and she just goes to sleep by herself no dramas, but the last couple of days she hasn't. I don't know how people can cope doing controlled crying.

    It's hard getting them into a routine when you have things to do at their nap time. Makenzie sleeps when I let her LOL. Although she does seem to be falling into her own routine of a sleep around 10am.

    Gotta dash

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    Wow, I can't believe that you both (Lisa and Linds) have PCOS. Isn't that amazing. When I was first diagnosed (when I was 15 - looooongggg time ago) I'd never heard of it and neither had anyone that I knew. But here we are.

    I too don't have any symptoms of PCOS other than the usual horrible skin and strange irregular cycle. Im not overweight etc, so its weird. It must be the "new syndrome" for our age group....

    Thanks for your support girls, I am hoping to fall without even trying too. Fingers crossed.... [-o<

    Linds - I can't believe that you have some sort of routine with your bub, Coby is still not in a sleeping routine, although, he just goes down about 2 hours after he's woken, so I usually know when he's ready, but we don't really have "set sleeps" or "set times". Would love to get to that stage, but I guess all good things come to those who wait.

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    Belinda, I'm only just starting to figure out some kind of routine! 7pm has been Evan's bed time for a couple of months now, but the days have been all over the place. It's really only the past couple of weeks that he's been ok with going with 'my' routine! And even that is flexible. I do try to keep 'night time' between 7pm and 7am though. But he's sometimes awake ready to get up at 6am :shock:

    The other thing i was wondering, is do any of your babies respond to "no"? Since Evan has been crawling, he won't sit still and he's after EVERYTHING he shouldn't have (remotes, phones, shoes, bookcase, entertainment unit, phone cords....!).I seem to spend my day saying "no" and turning him around the other way! He just thinks its funny that i have another tone of voice i think. Any ideas how to teach him, or will he just learn eventually? And how long?! He is such a curious, active little boy (oh i think i'm in for some interesting times!).

    BTW, I'm not sure what happened with that post that has arrived 3 times - sorry about that! Now i feel that i've been AWOL for a few months and now i'm back i won't shut up. Sorry about that, i've just realised what a fab resource you guys all are!!

    Linds

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    Linds - Maggie is very similar, the house is a disaster zone. She has made it her mission to pull everything down and throw it on the floor. As for the NO thing, she is beginning to get the idea, but the moment I have my back turned she is at it again. I think I will just have to live with stuff on the floor for the moment.

    Maggie now has a 2nd tooth, another top one. The bottom ones looks as though they will break any second. Had her first altercation with one of the cats, luckily not too much damage, just a tiny scratch, I think the cat kept her claws in.

    Think I have a jealous princess on my hands. At MG the other day she had a real tanty about me holding another baby, even though she forces herself onto everybody elses laps.

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    Bel - the only real symptom of PCOS that I have is being a bit too hairy for my liking. Luckily it's not a problem on my face. I have a friend with it who has all the "classic" signs ie obesity, hirsutism etc. She basically has a beard, poor thing. She's Italian so I guess genetics also makes the hirsutism worse, too.

    Linds - Makenzie doesn't understand "No". I do say it to her when she's trashing the house but luckily she hasn't managed to get to any power cords or anything like that yet. I forget she's mobile now and do silly things like leave the newspaper on the floor while I go to get something and come back and she's ripped it to shreds and ingested half of it. She got today's local paper when I went out of the room and DH came out and told me and I was freaking out coz my letter to the editor got published and I wanted to keep my "claim to fame" LOL. Can't remember how the boys learnt "No". I think if they kept going for something they really shouldn't have, like something dangerous etc I'd say a firm NO to them and move them, and keep repeating it to them.

    Makenzie's not really in any sort of routine, the only routine thing is she wakes between 7-8am each day LOL, and has a bottle when she first gets up. Everything else is done when she indicates she wants it (ie food and bottles for the rest of the day, naps etc). Her day naps are whenever she gets tired, although I try not to make the afternoon nap too late in the arvo. Sometimes she wants a nap after being awake for 2 hours, other times she can stretch herself to 5 hours without getting upset or showing tired signs.

    Oh, we went out to dinner as a family tonight for the first time in ages. My boys are bad enough at dinner time at home, let alone at a restaurant. We won a $20 voucher for the local RSL which is like only a few houses away from us so we went up there for dinner. Makenzie was so good. She sat in the highchair and played a game of throwing her toys across the room for the boys to retrieve LOL. We bought some raffle tickets too and we got some free ones coz the boys had been drawing while waiting for their meal and gave their pictures to the lady selling the tickets. We ended up winning a meat tray, so that was good!

    Anyway, off to play The Sims for a while before bed (that game is so addictive, no wonder I uninstalled it several years ago LOL).

    EDIT - Hi Katie, sorry, completely missed your introduction post! Was just going through the posts looking at everyone's bub's websites and noticed it. Sorry! Wasn't ignoring you. Welcome to you and Mayson, what a gorgeous name!

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    Brooke, sounds like you've got what I've got, apparently its going around, so it might be in WA too???

    Linds, your day sounds exactly like mine, I'm forever chasing Coby away from phones, power cords, remotes, plants - lets just say anything he's not supposed to have and he doesn't understand NO either yet, but we will persist, I think that's the only way to go about it...

    Stormi, sounds like dinner was a hit, you will have to make a semi-regular thing, it gives you a break from the house and from cooking too, aaahhh what a relief!! Good on you for winning the meat tray I reckon they are great, I always buy tickets when we're out if they have a raffle on....

    Astrid - Ouch at Maggie getting scratched, I guess she will learn in time what she can and can't do with the cats.... Good on Maggie for getting some more teeth, they are buggars aren't they!! Coby isn't jealous of me holding other babies, but Im sure that is to come, how can you stop them feeling that way?

    Coby is feeling a bit better today I think, but Im feeling worse, so hopefully he won't be too hard for me to handle today, I find it so hard to deal with him sometimes when I am sick, you know what its like, you just want to curl up on the lounge and watch daytime telly when you're sick....

    Hopefully the antibiotics will kick in soon....

    Hope you're all well....

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    Astrid - Cats seem to know when to not hurt someone. We had a cat a couple or so years ago, someone from the down the street moved out and abandoned it (was still a kitten, not a real little one though). So we took it to the vet to be checked for a microchip etc and we kept it. My boys were quite rough with it but it was sooooooo tolerant, and when it had finally had enough, he would swipe but with it's claws in. Riley was probably about one or so when we got it, he used to go and lay next to it and push his head into it's belly and this cat used put all four paws around Riley's head and bite his head LMAO! But he never bit hard or used claws, but was annoying enough that Riley would leave it alone.

    Makenzie looks like another top tooth is coming through, but not the other central tooth, it's the one next to the front top one she already has. Does anyone's bubs that have teeth grind them? Makenzie does it and it's the most awful sound!

    What quantities are your bubs eating? (ie tablspoons, cupfuls etc). Makenzie just had lunch and she ate probably 1/3 cupful of chicken and vegies and then a whole yoghurt. I'm sure she's going to make herself vomit one day LOL.

    OMG, I just took her out of her highchair and cleaned under her neck and she opened her mouth and that other tooth I just mentioned is through. She was grinding her teeth really bad when she was eating her yoghurt, she must have ground the gum away! Ewwwwww

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