Babies Born March 16th - 31st 2008

[all girls]

Glad everyone had a nice Mothers Day.

J & J wipes gave Paige the most severe reaction when i tried them, she was bleeding it was so bad she had to have meds, too scared to try ever again. Curash cream is good, but agree paw paw is fantastic, just didn't have any and always forget to get it. Summer gets a little red area around her bum esp if she is in the car/pram for long periods and gets a bit hot.

I think thrush starts in the mouth then goes to the bum and is meant to be a butterfly pattern around bottom hole. ??? none of my girls have had it but thats what the health nurse said.

DH is away for a week, gone to Perth then Singapore then Indo.

Summer has been at the horse and pilates all day today so is asleep might have to go wake her up soon. She is usually in bed for the night by 7.30-8.00.

Sorry for lack of personals, feeling frustrated and cranky lately, probably the tail end of this cold not one rest and can't take anything.

[shell_120308]

DJ is a little unsettled tonight, just won't sleep think he is just a little overtired, probably a result from a big day out yesterday me thinks.....

Paw paw cream rocks!!! I use it on my lips helps when you think you are coming down with a coldsore, seems to disappear

Prama - good to catch-up with you after the class today, I am enjoying our coffee's after class Hopefully next time our boys will let us shop..... Typical males just don't enjoy shopping. Did you get home ok? I put those wrist rattles on DJ but he hasn't quite clicked about them being on his wrist, probably a bit too young haha

Trina - how was pilates? I was considering starting a class as well, but the classes are never on the nights I want.

Decided to catch-up with a friend tomorrow for a coffee providing DJ is settled and sleeps well tonight. Going to give him a feed shortly and hoping that will settle him to sleep. Hubby has cold so hoping I don't get it boo hoo everyone has the flu in our family. I soooo don't want to get sick.

Hope you are all well.

Shell xxx

[Sammiejane]

Sorry havent read anything, a quick question for Prama...

My sister is heading to KL tomorrow... got any hints for great places to visist? lesss tourist and more real the better (i hope that i am not being completely dense and got it wrong and your not from there at all!!!!)

Thanks

[shell_120308]

Morning girls,

Well I had my first long break between feeds. Fed DJ at 9:30pm and then he didn't require his next feed until 3am this morning Yeehaaaah he slept from 11pm til 3am which is pretty good, his first 5 hour sleep, he did that the other night as well, so hopefully it will become a regular routine kehee After his 3am feed he didn't wake up until 7am for his next feed which was pretty good and it was only a 5 min feed because my boobs were really full this morning. So, I actually feel really rested, had 8 hours of sleep, mind you it was broken sleep so not a full 8 hour sleep. Speaking of which do any of you have a set routine for your bub?? DJ isn't in a set routine, I just know that I need to make sure he gets some full sleeps at night or he is grizzly for the following day and he needs a midday or mid morning sleep as well, so that is my routine for him.

I can't wait for this weekend, it will be our first night away from DJ. As much as I will miss him terribly I am soooo looking forward to catching up with friends and having a full sleep not interrupted by a baby crying. We are going out with friends on Saturday night and my mum is looking after DJ for the full night Yipeeeee I have already expressed and frozen 5 feeds, so only need another 2-3 to be safe. Over 24 hours normally feed DJ 7-8 times.

Well that is it from me, I better go start some washing. DJ is laying next to Doni in bed so gives me some time to get things done while he is sleeping.

Have a super great day girls!!!!

Shell xxxxx

[prama]

quick one, having brekkie before going for mums grp, while poopy's asleep. need to get him dressed.

sj - the paw paw brand is Lucas. it does help, ive used it when i had my lupus flare up on my face.
is she going to kl only? how long does she have? lots of shopping and eating. a few spots, will write when i come back. sorry in a rush.

shell - i had a fantastic time yest. i ddidnt hear ur call till i checked my fone later. sorry.
i changed his nappy and he seemed happy but cried and cried as soon as i started driving. dramas. couldnt stop anywhere. pulled up at northmead. smiles.. drove. tears and tears. got home and give him another feed. it was terrible!

[ania]

Hey Girls - how are things going with little ones???? i saw the LC yesterday and she was fantastic - i loved that she did not enforce anything on me but acting more like a support system...my latching on was good just have to turn his head more downwards so i dont see his lips and im fine using nipples shields - apparently they DO NOT DECREASE the volume of the milk.... the olden style nipples shield did but we have come a long way.... anyway i just have to add an extra feed, changed to a different nipple shield and the milk was flowing - although im still on motilium and slowly weaning off + on fenegreek....to top it off i am drinking so much its not funny. Also went to the pediatrician today and monkey had grown 2.5cm in length... he can do better in weight but the doc was happy.... you cant grow in length and width...(he said) lol he is so long and i also went to playgroup today which was fun....Shell/Prama were do u girls go to playgroup....

Another note grls if ur interested apparently we have more of the high milk in the arvo and the baby may require more feeds before he goes to bed than during the day... i can write up an average schedule that the LC gave me if u want - let me know...

[prama]

hi ania! glad you got good feedback from the LC! im glad it's giving you a piece of mind.
would appreciate the schedule.
we were always told that nipple shield reduces your milk supply.
i think im not drinking enough water, that's probably one of the reason my milk supply is a bit low.
it's not a playgroup, it's a mums and bubs exercise class. we do cardio, weights etc. like we walk the pram really fast (i try to keep up!) around a track, then we do other exercises etc. it's up at stanhope gardens so not too far from you.

i got a reply from westmead private regarding the complaint about the b!tchy midwife. it was from the Director of Clinical Service, and she was most apologetic and said that the midwife was apologetic etc. and they will continue to work with her to ensure that she communicates well.
that's the most i expected from them, im glad the director apologised and the midwife got into trouble. i still hate her, tho im not a person to hate anyone.

ania who was your ob at westmead private?

[Sammiejane]

Shell, i find it hard to have a set routine during the day because we are doing different things each day...
Monday i see my parents, either here or at their place, tuesday is Mothers group in the morning 10-30-1pm and then i try to catch up with friends that arvo, Wednesday i spend the day at the factory, Thursday i see Mum (but she is in the UK ATM) and Friday is my day alone, but i usually catch up with friends then too.. the weekends are as they come. So as we are doing things in the day it is hard to have something firm.
BUT we have a night routine that i try to stick to... she demand feeds during the day and the feeds get closer together in the evening, so from when DH gets home (about 6.30) she has cuddles with him and feeds when she needs, i bath her in the tummy tub or she has one with her Dad every night at about 7.30 or 8ish (she ahs a feed about an hr to 30 mins before), then i dry her, massage il into her feet and tummy, change her for bed and then another quick feed then bed for about 8.30pm. She will sleep staright through til anywhere from 3am-6am, at this time i give her a feed, shange her and put her back in her cot.
We get her up at 7-7.30 and put her in our bed so she can have a chat and a play with her Dad before he goes to work.
THe other thing i try to do is give her alone play time in her bouncer, so that she is not totally reliant on me or others for play (i do house wrk then or hop on here!) - she also figres things out for herself during this time and talks to her friends (we have put the wrist rattles on the bouncer upright bit and she can see the faces and she coo's and smiles at them )

Glad you are starting to get longer stretches of sleep... although your boobs will feel it, mine usually wake me!

have a great day everyone, im taking my sister and her DP to the airport this afternoon, they will be in Indo for 3 weeks travelling around... that means Mum and Nina will be away until June, i going to miss them heaps, Nina is over for dinner at least once a week and i will see her maybe another time in the week during the day... Molly loves her to bits too, its going to be weird without them around

PRAMA - no, they are only there for about a week, they are also going to jakarta, singapore and somewehere else... they are climbing a mountain and going to the royal salangor fctory somewhere... the shopping that they would be interested in the market sort of stuff not actual shops... they are budget travellers, but try and get a real taste of the area that they are in, not a touristy view - oh they are also doing a cooking course, possibly in KL and i am sooooo looking forward to the food that they cook when they get back - last year they were in Chang Mai Thailand and they thai food that they learnt to cook was amazing!

[danniellabella]

Man I'm silly!

At 1:30am I was having trouble sleeping. Jazz was sound asleep and Matt was too. Then I heard Jazz do what sounded like a massive poo so I decided to get up and change/feed her. I opened her nappy to discover hardly anything, certainly nothing to warrent getting up to change her, it really could have waited until she woke up.
During the feed she did it again. I changed her again and it was the same kind of thing...not a lot to speak of.

I'm so tired now and it's all my fault for waking Jazz up when I didn't really need to! At least though my boobs didn't feel as full when we got up at 7:30.

[prama]

Hi girls!

Was so buggered yesterday, didnt have a chance to post.

SJ - If they go to Petaling Street, Chinatown they can get lots of imitation goods, hehe. Gucci watches etc for $10, t-shirts etc. but you must really really bargain and pretend to walk away!
local food is great, Malay, Chinese, Indian, Western food, very cheap and there are restaurants and hawker stalls (it's safe) open 24hrs. That's why I love going home, i eat and eat and eat. they are everywhere.
They could get a train or a light rail transit from Sentral Station in KL (that area's Brickfields which has yummy food too) and just take a ride and stop and have a look. In KL, they could go the Batu Caves, a limestone cave that has a Hindu temple in it. There are stairs of course. Chinatown and it's surroundings are very day to day. Of cos, most ppl also do the Twin Towers but that's touristy and i think expensive. I think the Selangor Pewter factory is a bit out of town. Ive never been there.
Bukit Bintang area is a bit touristy but has some shopping centres, it's too crowded for me. We only go there to get imitation software etc. hehe. i'll think of other things!

shell - i had a fun time yesterday, we should do it again. hopefully the boys will get used to it and us too, not have to be on our toes all the time.
jolly jumpers - we were told in our mothers group class that they were not recommended as they were dangerous, as the clamp posed a hazard and if it becomes dislodged it could hit the baby on the head or the baby could go flying.
walkers - htey dont recommend the ones that they sit in and walk. it doesnt develop their backs etc, and they could fall down when it gets caught on the carpet, stairs, slippery surfaces like tiles, and ledges.
also both of them seem to ahve babies on their tiptoes and that's not good for their walking development.
they said the walkers wish they push is ok cos they use their feet properly and use thier body weight. but have to be careful with stairs etc.

i tried ahvign a routine but it always goes out of whack when we are out, feeding time, sleeping time. i also tried doing feed, sleep, play etc but it doesnt always work that way. i try to include tummy time, playmat time, nappy free time between feeds. i mean one of each at different feed times, not all once. but it's a bit hard sometimes when you're doing other stuff or he's not interested, and i get stressed that im not doing all the things for his development. so i play it by ear, sometimes i cant include all of it.
like sj - we try to stick to the night routine. bath, feed in bed, cuddles with steve and me, and wrap and in his bassinet. we let him look at his mobile and laugh himself silly, then turn off the bedside light after 10mins if he's still awake and he usually just falls asleep.

i was going to write more but i forget. oh, one of the girls from the mothers group andi are trying to organise to go for mums and bubs movie. that will be fun, and interesting!!

trina - hope you're ok.

[all girls]

Summer is pretty cranky and unsettled too the last few days, she woke up 3 times last night and hasn't slept today and doing monster farts that smell rotten hehe

No routine during the day as we are in and out so many times but have a feed, bath massage feed routine happening and sometimes play or book before bed depending how tired she is and if i want to keep her up a little later. She was sleeping from 7.30 or 8.30 to between 4am and 6am but the last few nights she hasn't so maybe a growth spurt. I don't mind too much just go with the flow, the other kiddies wake me up during the night as well so pretty used to it i think i am asleep half the time anyway.

Back soon cranky pants is calling, i never get to finish when i get on here then i forget what i was going to say when i come back on....