I must admit, I'd love to lie about contraception and have planned to, but when it gets down to it I find I can't. For some stupid reason I trust DH and respect him - I really do wish it was a 2-way street though. He does know I'm mucus tracking for timing and trusts me on that: I'm also going on dates (cd30 now) so that's why we're abstaining for now - or rather, I'm abstaining, he's in the bathroom quite a while in the evening.

He says he's wanting children now, just we can't afford them. I've tried for ages to talk him round, so I reckon he's lying about wanting children now. We had a huge barney last night because I was ranting at the TV (local news: an 8 1/2 month pg woman was upset the loos on the trains were out of order: WTF was she doing still working at 8 1/2 months and a stressy 2-hour commute every day? She was a "Miss", living on her own, so no DP to support her, I should be glad she's not living off the state but how does that tart get a baby and I don't?). Anyway, that triggered off a huge row about chlidren, but I think I'm also a bit annoyed at my cycle. DH is useless, just tells me to go to the doctor when I need some sympathy, but the GP will refer me to my boss because he deals with these problems and I don't want him to know - not only because he's my boss, but also because I don't want him to think it's all TTC related when I'm not going to do that yet. It's not stress, because I only realised there was a ovulation problem recently, long after I should have had EWCM, and wasn't at all stressed at first last cycle, just waiting for AF, when she was 4-5 days late I started to fret a bit. Oh yes, and DH tells me that my job is no-stress, because dealing with NHS patients on the phone is easy.

If I could lie about contraception I think I would do that. I know it's not ideal and it's not nice, but then these men aren't exactly being nice, are they? It is meant to be a joint thing, funny how it's only joint when they brow-beat us into their decisions. And it's really odd how the people whose DHs have agreed to having children and don't now have to go through the stress of no baby ALONE, without DH support as you get when AF arrives and you're both trying, think it's bad to lie about it. Sorry, but when you see how bitter and twisted and hateful I end up because of this, one little lie is more than worth it. My DH knows exactly how I feel and guess what? He tells me off for feeling like this, because he's never called me worthless (in words) and says he does love me and wants me to be happy. He offers no sympathy when I don't know what my body is doing, doesn't ask me what I think is wrong and if I try to tell him then he says I'm being silly and should talk to a doctor. He knows it won't happen right away and can take up to a year - or at least I've told him that - in fact, 18 months for us due to 6-week cycles - or 2 years to have 12 8-week cycles. He also won't talk about what-ifs, so I don't even know what's going to happen IF we can't have children, or it takes quite a while; I only know he doesn't like the thought of assisted conception or adoption and would rather not do that and thinks living childlessly is fine. After all, his old SA 9-10 years ago showed that he's fertile so he knows he doesn't have a problem. Needless to say, I don't really agree, but he's already decided for us again.

Peachy, I'd show your DH this thread. Just the threat you could end up like me should be enough for him to want to have children now! And believe me, being this dreadful and having mascara running down your face is something to avoid!