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  1. #1
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    Jul 2006
    Melbourne
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    Hey all,

    So sorry I haven't been in since last week. I have been pretty busy at home & work. I often pop in for a quick check on everyone but don't have time to post.

    I don't know how many people saw ACA tonight (there is another thread about this in the General Chatter section). Anyway it was about 2 women who had fertility issues (don't know exactly what though) and after one woman had tried for 10 yrs to fall pg (naturally & ART etc...) she went to Sharkeys which I believe is a Naturopathic (?) centre. They got the women to get bloods taken for gluten intolerance (even though the women had no usual symptoms) which come back positive. With a change of diet and some concoctions from Sharkeys they both fell pg.... I have since googled 'Infertility & Gluten' and heaps of info comes up..... Something to think about anyway...... I remember ages ago looking at Sharkeys website & you can have an appt over the phone & they even post out the concoctions to you!....

    Well I won't bother doing persies since I'd have to go back nearly a whole week but I want to send tons of baby dust, sticky vibes, af vibes - whatever you need vibes and will promise not to be a lurker!

    AFM - Had our counselling session & session about the injections etc... last week. Yesterday went back to the FS & got referral for recurrent m/c testing. We'll probably start SO/IUI in October. So for the time being I will continue to hang with you gals

  2. #2
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    Apr 2009
    Melbourne
    534

    Good to hear from you Jules! I have coeliac disease which is an allergy to gluten and it can do some horrible things to your system. I should point out that if you want to be tested for it, DON'T GO OFF GLUTEN YET, or your test will come back negative. I was misdiagnosed for some time because I got the wrong info and wasn't having enough gluten for my blood to show a response. The gastroscopy however showed the damage to my bowel and intestines. I have constantly worried that this is the readon I can't hold a pregnancy, becasue I already follow the gluten free diet so there is nothing else I can do!
    I might look up that sharkey's place, Jules, I actually have the book. Might give it another read!

    Glad your councelling went well and hopefully your r/c m/c testing turns up something useful that can be fixed (IYKWIM). You are of course most welcome to hang here as long as you like!

    Thanks for the vibes, I need something to make me o. I have this horrible feeling that it's not going to happen this month. CD 27 or something as nothing yet.

    Hope everyone has a great day!

    Bec

  3. #3
    Registered User

    Jul 2009
    Melbourne
    363

    Morning Ladies,

    Wow lots going on in here. Hope you are all well.

    Bec, Happy Birthday for last week, sorry I missed it hun, you’ll have to change your signature now, he he! How’d you go visiting all the newborn’s? Must’ve been tuff hun. Are you having a BT this month to see if you have O’d? Is it too late to get one do you think?

    N2L, know what you mean about nice to answer someone else’s questions. You spend your first few weeks in here asking questions it’s nice to feel like you are contributing, thanks again hun. Also KWYM about some people needing checks before they can reproduce, so silly that IVF uses have to and no one else done.

    Mel, totally know what you mean about unplanned pregnancy. I was with my ex for 3 years and whilst I was on the pill the whole time he ALWAYS used a condom, without fail. We were each others first’s so it wasn’t necessary. Now that it has taken DH and I 3 years to finally get our long awaited BFP I laugh at my ex and tell him what a waist, it was never going to happen unexpectedly. As for the dry CM, we used pre-seed as it is supposed to be the only same lubricant, tried not to use it unless we had to though. PS: If you do get some only use 1cm or thereabouts, what it tells you on the instructions is WAY too much, you loose sensation. I always ‘rested’ after working out on the ‘workbench’ and I also put a pillow under my bum. Don’t know if any of that silly stuff helped but we did finally conceived after 3years TTC, 9 cycles of Clomid and a lap in late Jan this year, and I’d do it all again in a heartbeat. HTH’s! Also regarding OPK’s, what time of day are you doing them? I know it is inconvenient with work and all but they say between 2-6pm is the best time of day to do them, not the first morning pee as it is too concentrated. HTH’s. Are you having a BT to confirm if you O’d? Wow you sound like you have a lot on your plate with al this TTC c**p and your darling daughter, you must be a strong woman! How old is your daughter?

    Shan, so glad to hear AF finally arrived. Sorry she is causing you grief though.

    Pumpgirl, wow so excited to hear your scan went well hun, that is wonderful. I’m beginning to think that maybe Clomid can make your Hcg levels high, cos almost everyone that has fallen pg on this thread have had high Hcg levels and have thought they were carrying twins, I wonder if it makes a difference. Cant wait to hear how your 12 week scan goes, they are incredible. So what’s your DD then? No MS is still carrying on, just once a day though so not too bad now. I’m 22 weeks now so I think I’m stuck with it for sure. Oh well, no complaints from me!

    Porsche, GL for the 28th & the 30th. Not sure if crampyness is normal for IVF but I had it when I fell pg, hope it’s a great sign hun.

    Liz, GL starting your jabs. Glad to hear the app went well, good on your DH.

    AFM: Not much to report, 22weeks pg now and getting lots of active kicks. Oh I can’t wait for all of you ladies to be pg and feel the same things. I feel another good month coming on so fx’ed!

  4. #4
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    Aug 2010
    Castle Hill, NSW
    44

    Porsche - Oh man, I don't think that I can wait that long to find out if your baby(s) stuck! I can't imagine how you feel as I am anxious enough for you!


    Keli - I am not doing any OPKs or BT to see if I ovulated. My Dr (OB/GYN) didn't say anything about them, and he also told me not to chart my temps as I seem to be one of 20-30% of women who don't actually show a recognisable pattern of temp changes. My graphs are just little zig zags and I was actually glad he said that, as I thought there was something wrong with me and it made me too anxious all the time anyway! As soon as AF finishes her visit (for me she should be almost leaving, she never stays too long), then we will just DTD every second day until AF shows up again! If she doesn't show up, then I'll POAS and if it's negative then we wait and try again! If I don't have any luck in the next 3 cycles, then I go back to him and he will refer me to a FS.

    RhiChiChi/Bec - I had heard about Coeliac disease/gluten intolerance and how it can also affect mens fertility and sperm quality. So that is another side of things to consider!!

    Did anyone else that is pregnant with Clomid find they have high HCG levels? I hope so, as I am paranoid that I will be pregnant and POAS and it will be negative! I want a BFP!! I asked my Mum and she said that it took a while before they were sure that she was pregnant with me (natural pregnancy, but took 9 months to conceive me and she was only 23 at the time). I guess that the tests back then though weren't as sensitive as the ones now though?

    AFM - I kind of feel guilty as I never really have had bad AF pains/cramps. I do get a sore lower back, but nothing that I need to take anything for this time round. I hope that the cramps stop soon for you Shan. I was so excited taking my first Clomid last night! I don't feel any different today, but I think that it's a bit early to tell!!!

  5. #5
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    Jun 2010
    Qld
    66

    Hi Guys
    Just a quick one so no persies, will have to try and do over weekend (might get me away from the annoying hoping-to-be SIL (God I hope not, lol).

    The thing about the gluten intolerance is similar to what I posted earlier about grains. They affect your hormones so females end up producing more testosterone and reverse for the blokes. Gluten free grain products will also do this as it is the carbohydrates that break down into sugars that then effect these hormones (or that is the general idea).
    We are starting a grain free diet next week so will have to see if it helps, can't hurt.

    Sharkeys is on the Gold Coast and they do consultations over phone or even web cam. Some of the girl's I work with struggled to conceive and they went there (back when Ruth Sharkey was running it, she has retired now) and they both had success. That is the next step for us but I wanted to give the clomid a couple of cycles before paying for the consultation and then the herbs. I think changing my diet and exercising in the morning (even though I am the worst morning person ever) will help as well after seeing the science about it (the nerd part of me requires this before I believe it even though I know it is true, I am resistant to anything that gets me out of bed early, will be good practice for when I do eventually get a bub, lol).

    AFM - AF still lingering, hopefully will leave tomorrow. Pain has subsided thankfully even though the tolerance levels were low with the kid's yesterday afternoon, didn't help that they were all off with the pixies, is it a full moon or something? Have my appointment with Dr tomorrow so hopefully he can come up with something, would like to avoid the IVF and jabbing track but if it is what we have to do then I would rather get started ASAP.

    Will post over the weekend.
    Shan

  6. #6
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    Jun 2010
    Qld
    66

    Sorry should have said grains and sugars (excluding fruit). Obviously a treat every now and again is ok ( just not every day).

  7. #7
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    Aug 2009
    The South East, South Australia
    191

    hi ladies!! Sorry i have been MIA! My work has been monitoring my net time and i cant read the blog on my phone!! hope everyone is well! I am ok, the clomid didnt work this round apparently, but i think that i ovulated later then the 21 day test so the dr took more blood today! I will write again soon! We get our internet up and running at home soon so bellybelly is the first place to go! Lol! Im having withdrawls! talk soon