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Thread: TTC & Taking Clomid &/0r Metformin ~ December 2006 #3

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    It is our turn ladies. This year is nearly old news and we'll be onto a freshy, nice & positive. What a lovely group of belly buddies we could be!

    Walkingart - ask away, we can only offer our best.. I don't think there are any definates with clomid (as with any other drug!) but I'm pretty certain CD14 is text book for ovulation on 1 28 day cycle.
    My FS instructed me to start the OPK's on CD 13 for 5 days. I got a positive (darker than control line) on CD16. My FS also supplied me with OPK's - Seratec brand. Not sure if the brand has any impact. Maybe check out the OPK, HPT threads for more info unless our lovelies can offer some advice.

    Good luck, let us know how you get on




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    Ktgirl, so sorry about the uss and too many follies. Who knows though, now those ovaries are awake... Sending you hugs, and admire you for taking a break

    Pollyanna, sorry AF showed up-hope she's soo leaving

    Briggsy, hope AF stays away-fingers crossed. You're right, we have to be positive to get BFP's in 2007!!

    Walking Art, I was having short cycles-usually positive OPK D11, suspected ovulation D12 prior to clomid, but on my last cycle-first with Clomid-I didn't get a positive OPK until D13 (and one follicle ready to pop on USS), and suspected ovulation D14 (although my progesterone showed the follicle either didn't release, or was a scrambled egg!!). Worth stocking up on OPKs!
    As for me, finished last clomid 100 today, CD6. Almost feel like we're going thru' the motions till we see fertil spec again at end of Jan, and see where we go next.

    Hi to everyone else
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    Hi girls,

    Smudge- Glad you are feeling ok and getting excited about your IVF appointment. I guess it will alll come around pretty quickly. But lets hope you don't need to go to that appointment

    Walking art- Everyone is different as to when they O on Clomid. I always O late around Days 18-19 and I was taking clomid between days 2-6. So don't just BD around day 14 just in case leave your options open there.

    Millyb- Good luck this month with your clomid cycle. Lets hope just like smuge tht you won't need that FS appointment and you will get your BFP before then!!!

    Briggsy's girl- I am still praying for you. Hang in there girl

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    I'm back! I have missed everyone so much! It's a bit hard to do personals as I've been gone so long and there's been so much happening, but I have read everything!

    Christmas for us was a bit depressing... our first without Grandma so the big family thing was much quieter than normal. I was also getting upset with seeing everyone gushing over my three and a half year old nephew! But I did manage to catch up with the friends who had their baby two weeks ago... I was upset at the time, but I fell in love with him as soon as I saw him! I got lots of cuddles and coped better than I thought. There's yet more people praying for us - I shared a little of what the past year has held for us (I never really thought of it as a crap year until then, when my friend labelled it as one - I'm now looking forward to a better one in 2007 - it surely can't get worse!) and the support we have gained from them is amazing.

    I kept taking my temps while we were away, and the details are stored as memos in my phone - I'll get around to updating my chart soon! I actually feel a bit naughty - never before have DH and I ever BDed while staying with my parents except for the odd time when we find ourselves at home alone... but very carefully and very quietly we did a couple of times while we were away! I actually felt like a kid sneaking around and hiding from my parents again! I doubt very much that anything will come of it as the one thing I can see from my temps is that they are very, very low.

    Pondering starting provera now so I can be just starting AF when we next see the specialist... but it did a number on me last time, and I'm really not looking forward to it, so I kind of feel like I should be a good girl for a change and wait for my instructions.

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    Welcome Back BW - sounds like your christmas was a bit of a rollercoaster ride emotionally. So happy you were able to spend time with your friends and their new baby. i have a friend who gave birth the week before Christmas - have spoken to her DH and kids, but haven't been able to bring myself to go and visit her and bubs just yet - it's just too hard! we have 4 friends who've had babies in the past month, and 5 more due in january - i'm ecstatic for all of them, but have issues going to see them, especially as none of them know of our struggle TTC. Hopefully i'll be over this cold soon enough so i can go visit the new bub and get myself on the right page emotionally to deal with all these births!

    Well done on the sneaking around at your parents place too! it's a big effort to get away with something like that - and feeling young and rebellious like that can be great fun!

    as for me, having a bad day today. cold is driving me nuts - so much i want to do and just can't be bothered - went to lie down earlier for a few minutes, DH woke me an hour later, and i still don't feel like i've rested. have been having ongoing crampy pain around my right ovary for probably two weeks now, which is driving me nuts. i've never been someone to get pain when AF is on her way, so not sure what this is - just wish my body would sort itself out properly!

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    i Have been on clomid this month and am on CD30, i did a HPT yesterday, a a very very faint line came up in the test area, iam wondering if that would be classed as a positive. iam trying not to get to exited, but wondering if this cycle worked.

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    Calixelaine, when it comes to HPTs, a line is a line - the darkness of it doesn't matter. I know people say they don't give false positives, but I've found out the hard way that they actually DO... It's extremely rare, though.

    I would say that this cycle has worked... congratulations!

    BW

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    thanks for the reply BW iam going to the doctors to get it confermed next friday, but its all that i can think about. i know that you have been having a rough time with TTC, and i hope that it all works for you soon. i will drop in and let everyone know what the results of the test are when i get them.

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    Thanks for wishing me well, calixelaine. 2006 has been a pretty sucky year for me in so many ways... and now that it's drawing to a close, I'm focusing on 2007 being a much better year for us... and it's making me feel a whole lot more relaxed and at peace with the situation we have found ourselves in.

    Good luck with the GP appointment!

    BW

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    Hi girls.

    Popping in to see how things are with all of you.

    WalkingArt. I would use OPKs from about cd11 or 12 through to when you see a +ve result. Always go a few days earlier than you think you will O just so you don't miss the LH surge (which comes before you O remember).

    Calixelaine, clomid tends to extend your cycle by delaying O. I found this out when I went for an ultrasound the other week and I was 7w2d as far as my LMP dates, but the scan showed I was 6w2d. Both sonographer and FS both agreed that the clomid was the reason. Hence, even though you might be cd30, you might only be 11 - 14 DPO depending on when you actually O'd. Hence, a faint line is what you would expect if you were very early pg. You should ecpect to see a darkening line in a few days though as HCG levels rise.

    BW, sorry to hear that your Xmas was a bit hard. Been there myself and I know how sucky it is. Hugs to you and all you girls that had to suffer in silence through family celebrations.

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    hi there

    have been reading these posts for a couple of weeks now, and trying to get my head around a lot of what's being said. i've noticed quite a number of mentions of clomid altering the cycle so that ovulation occurs later. i haven't been using OPK's or anything to monitor when i have O'd (or even if i have!) - just wondering what time frame most people have noticed being on clomid - i've been on clomid 150 day 5-9 this cycle - am now on CD 32. have been having pain around right ovary since about CD 21 (is much less intense now than when it started). not sure if it's O related or not - had a BT done on CD22 but don't get the results of that til Jan 9th as it is basically just to check whether i'm responding to clomid at all (had no response to clmid 50 or 100 on previous cycles). has anyone else had this experience - from what i've read, most people only get the pain around their ovaries when they actually O or when AF is due - 11 days of pain (even i it's decreasing) seems a little odd to me....

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    Hi gorgeous ones. Sorry I havae been away. We got unexpected visitors and I haven't had time to post. I have been keeping posted on what's going on but no time to formulate a reply!
    Kate: I am sorry those ovaries aren't behaving at the moment. I have faith in them though and they will come through for you my love... sending you lots of :hugs: your way.
    Walking Art: Don't rely on ovulating on cd14 on clomid. I ovulated on cd19 this month and the previous clomid month on cd21! I would begin the opk testing on cd 11 or cd12 and continue to test each day until you get a positive. When I am not on clomid I ovulate on around cd17-19 so this months clomid cycle was more usual for me.

    Briggsys Girl:: I am with you. This is going to be our year. The year of the PIG is fortuitous and I am sure this time next year we will be smiling at our babies or our pregnant bellies!

    Calixelaine: The sore breasts at the end of your cycle are likely due to the higher progesterone level that is evident. A prog level of 40 indicates that ovulation did occur. You must be seeing an ob for the clomid isn't she/he conferring with you about this???
    I would phone and speak to her/him.

    Smudge: I hope that you are feeling a little better on the clomid.

    Pollyanna: Sorry to hear you are feeling down. This next year is going to be IT in here!!!

    Me: well I got my period on Boxing Day. I was fine with it I must say. I didn't expect to get lucky first go but feel happy knowing that the environment is all good and the dose is right for me given my prog level being above 50. I am on cd5 today so tonight is my 4th dose of clomid. I am feeling grumpy and out of sorts so I hope that abates soon!
    I am believing that this year will be a happy one and that we will all have very soon!

    I will try and pop in tomorrow gorgeous women.

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    I posted on the previous page without reading this one!!!
    Welcome back Butterfly. Sorry Christmas was a little sad - I am sure your Grandma was watching over you all... Sorry I missed you before...

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    It's ok, Deb. I'm just glad to see you back here! I hadn't seen you around since I got back and I was starting to worry. I'm glad to hear all is well(ish) in your world.

    It's strange - I'm finding it remarkably easy to maintain my current happy and relaxed mood (so relaxed I never actually got dressed today, but neither did DH)... in fact, it's so easy I'm almost worried!

    I'm still debating the provera... simply because after reading up on the protocols from the clinic, I'll be asked to take two tablets per day for 10 days, when one worked before - and I would think that the higher dose would be likely to cause even more side effects... but DH is very much against me self-medicating in such a way. It's so hard to sit back and just follow instructions, particularly when the instructions haven't yet been given and I'm only anticipating them! Surely when I'm on day 80 something (I'm not paying a huge amount of attention to it) there would be no harm in taking the provera?

    BW

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    Just popping in briefly

    BW - surely even if there are protocols, your clinic can individualise depending on your body's response to medications. I know the first time I took provera, I took one tablet for 10 days, AF arrived the next day. The second time, I took 2 tablets for 10 days, and AF didn't arrive for about another 8 days from memory, so more is not always better or more effective. I feel for you hun Long cycles are so frustrating, especially when they seem to delay TTC when you know you're not pg ... I had a 108 day cycle once which nearly drove me absolutely bonkers!

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    Thanks, Cherie. It's good to hear from you again!

    I'll certainly ask why I'm required to take two tablets per day - it's just worded so aggressively in the paperwork they gave us "you will be required to take two provera tablets daily for 10 days"... It really disagreed with me last time - I know getting to day 80 something is bad, and messes with your head, but I really found the provera worse!

    BW

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    Sounds like a good plan to ask the clinic about it. In my, albeit fairly limited experience, any type of assisted conception is totally different for every person that goes through it - everyone has different types and amounts of medications, different timing, not to mention different medical history and individual response to medications ... it doesn't seem to be a one-size-fits-all area, so hopefully they will be responsive to your need for something a little different from the protocol.

    Perhaps it's worded like that to take some of the uncertainty out of the process for people who prefer it to be spelled out, but there still may be flexibility to change the protocols.

    Hang in there!

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    Hi ladies. I have been away for a couple of nights for NYE. Hope everyone had a good one.

    BW- Welcome back. What ever you decide to do with the Provera you know we are here and you can come in and rant about it if you are feeling down as we are all ready to listen.

    Deb- Thanks for your hugs. Sorry that it was a BFN this time but I am sure your BFP is just around the corner. Good luck with this cycle of clomid.

    Hi to all the other lovlies, I hope you are all well.

    As for me I don't think I have O yet which is a bit strange so I am having a blood test tomorrow to see what is happening in there. Now I have had time to think about everything I am feeling really comfortable with taking this break. I am going to put 2006 behind me and start a fresh with 2007. I am going to use this time to look after myself a little better, I need to lose a little bit of weight that I have put on in the last 18 months and get my body in the best possible position to start our IVF journey. So I am feeling good. Anyway now I am rambling.

    Here is to a positive year for all of us xoxoxo

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