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Thread: TTC & Taking Clomid &/0r Metformin ~ December 2006 #3

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    My procrastination has solved the question of the provera for me - I've left it too late! I'd just finish taking it when we go for the appointment... It felt like ages away, but now that we have hit the 1st, it's only 10 more days to go... wow!

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    wow, only 10 days to go! that seems to have come along really quickly
    at least you'll be ready to start the provera when you go to your next appointment - you'll just have to make sure the doc is aware of how much it affects you so that your dosage is set up appropriately for you!

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    Hi everyone,

    I am new to BB, but have to confess to reading threads over the last couple of days and being so touched and in awe of all of you and the challenges you have experienced. I do wish you all the best and hope precious and magical things are gifted to you.

    I was diagnosed with PCO's when I was seventeen, given courses of Provera to bring on AF, but other than that, wasn't a big deal, because I didn't want to have babies or anything like that, and not having AF regularly was convenient, I got to choose when it was. However, things have changed considerably, apart from growing up, and being twelve years later, and meeting and marrying a wonderful man, I do want to have at least one baby. Any way......(I get carried away sometimes).

    We have been off the pill since August and TTC. I was put on Metformin to treat PCO's and obviously kept on it of late, to assist with cycle etc. I guess I am just interested in hearing from other ladies with PCO's and their TTC journey and experiences and also any successes with Metformin. Also if I can add anther one in there people with PCO's and who are taking Metformin and who have used Pre-seed and whether this has provided them with any wins.

    I look forward to chatting with you all.....Thank you for sharing your story, it is really valued.

    Marissa

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    Welcome, Marissa! It's always nice to have new people join us, although I do hope that you're only with us for a very short time and will be heading over to preggy-land very soon.

    For a long time, I was just taking metformin for my PCOS, sadly I found that it didn't do anything to help at all... and clomid looks to be not doing much, either. We are in the midst of switching to a new specialist to hopefully get things headed in a more positive direction.

    Although, I do have two friends who can show that the PCOS and metformin thing DOES work! One tried metformin alone as well and got nowhere, but was successful with clomid in addition to the metformin. The other got her BFP shortly after starting metformin - it seems that the metformin alone was enough to make her body ovulate. Both of these wonderful friends of mine will have their bubs turn one early this year.

    Afraid I can't help with the pre-seed side of things... I suspect DH's issues are bigger than pre-seed can fix!

    Good luck once again.

    BW

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    Welcom Marissa

    like BW, it seems meformin/clomid alone are not working for myself and DH, however i have a friend who also has PCOS and had a metformin success story. she had struggled to conceive DD #1, and had gone through injectables and IUI before having success. she started taking metformin before TTC baby number 2, in preperation for speaking to FS, and was pg within a couple of weeks! i guess everyone is different in how they respond to meds, but there are definitely cases out there where metformin alone is enough to kick start your system! i know my FS changes my dosage of metformin after 6 months of gyn prescribing it, telling me dosage wasn't high enough, so i'm now not sure whether metformin/clomid wasn't working for me, or whether i just wasn't on a large enough dosage! i'm definitely feeling more confident on the TTC journey knowing that i'm dealing with a specialist in the field now

    Happy new year to all the other ladies in this thread - hoping 2007 brings us all lots of BFP's and that none of us need to remain in this thread too long!

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    Briggsy's girl, what dose of metformin were you on? And what did your FS change you to?

    I'm sure I wasn't on a high enough dose, and I put it up myself for a while... but again I didn't see anything happening and took myself back down to the prescribed dose when I had to do the glucose tolerance test. I thought about going back up again, but I've decided to stop messing about and trust my doctors - I'll wait for instructions when I see the FS again! And yes, that's come around sooo quickly!

    BW

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    HI BW

    had been on a dose of 500mg metformin twice daily since July 2006. went to see FS for first appointment early December and first thing he told me was that dosage wasn't high enough, and increased me - went from 500 to 750mg (until i ran out of the intitial script) and now on 850mg twice daily. i'm not sure if it's based on FS preference, type of treatment or just body size or anything (i'm a larger lady!), but it just struck me that he'd said it so quickly. i guess i'm seeing an FS who's been in the business forever - and who has also helped friends become parents - so i have faith that what he says is all good. He was also very quick to state that he didn't think the clomid was working, or particularly appropriate based on my test results, so has pushed straight onto IUI which, at the time, freaked me out a bit, but which i now see as a very positive step forward. Am just hanging out for the 17th of this month (seems so far away, but i know it's not!) so that the clinic is reopened and we can get started on things in earnest - not looking forward to the possible side effects from the injections, but knowing that it's all working toward having a bubba at the end makes it all worth it!

    in the interim, we're not giving up on nature stepping in (we've been married less than a year, gotta keep up the practice!!)

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    If it's any comfort... my acupuncturist also believes that clomid won't work for me, either. She thinks I have very low eostrogen. She thinks that FSH injections will be easier for my body to tolerate than clomid... It will be interesting to see how her thoughts match up with my test results!

    From the reading I've done (and the research of a friend who works in obs), 1000mg daily of metformin isn't enough! 1500-2000mg daily is recommended for PCOS. I've still got the whole "is it really PCOS?" thing going... I'm teetering on the very edge of being overweight or in healthy weight range (give or take a kilogram!), have never been overweight, have never had acne problems, skin tags, very little trouble with body hair... I just don't seem to fit the PCOS profile! Sure I do have polycystic ovaries, but I always wonder if there's something else going on as well... which is part of why I haven't bothered increasing the metformin again. Hopefully this FS will have answers for me!

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    Hello lovelies and hi to Marissa

    Flowerchild - sorry af arrived ..07 is here. We can do it this year!

    ktgirl- Hope you had a good NY. Good that you can listen to your body and recognise when you need a break. I'm sure it can only help you.

    Well I'm yet to see a positive opk so off to get a scan first thing in the morning, first day back at work..going to be a long day up @ 5.30am. I am confident that I am not about to ovulate because I just feel so different to last month when we got the follie etc...I'll be very surprised if anything shows up..and as much as I don't enjoy clomid, I won't be able to waste the last month before we move to IVF either! So, we'll see...

    Hi to butterfly_warrior, briggsy's girl and everyone else

    Have a nice night

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    good luck with the scan tomorrow Smudge - hopefully you will see a nice little follie growing there that's decided not to let you know it's there just yet! i can understand your frustration though - first two cycles of clomid (50 and 100) i didn't manage to ovulate - it's annoying waiting for your body to do something that it's just decided not to do!

    BW, sounds like you've done a fair bit of research in regards to PCOS. i've read a fair bit myself, and having polycystic ovaries doesn't necessarily mean you have PCOS - hopefully the FS next week will be able to give you more answers - or at least lead you in the right direction to getting the results you need - doesn't really matter what the label on the problem is, if he can find th solution to getting you pg in the near future, on the other hand, i have text book PCOS - i self diagnosed when i was in my late teens and studying medical science at uni, but because i wasn't looking to start a family, my GP (actually, 3 different GP's across two states) said it wasn't worth further invasive investigation at the time so technicaly it wasn't diagnosed til april 2006. was only this year when i went to the GP and said "i'm getting married next month, we want to start a family, we've m/c twice, what the hell is going on?" that i had further testing - first GP sent me for blood tests, then went on leave at last minute, saw another GP that said tests normal, then third GP called to arrange follow up tests (he happened to be husband of first GP, and she'd told him to call me as she was PG and was having complications and knew what we were going through) - have since had a scare with possible bicornuate uterus ("two hotel rooms" as my dad put it - thankfully the u/s wasn't very clear and a more thorough invetigation showed all normal there), and have had ovarian drilling to make me more receptive to treatment - it's been a pretty full on 10 months getting to where we are now, but DH and i have decided that the new year and the new treatment are going to be more positive for us!

    have to ask, BW - you've mentioned a number of times about having acupuncture - how is this supposed to help? - and has it made any difference for you (apart from the fact that you seem to have a great acupuncturist who has a fair bit of knowledge and puts your mind at ease!)

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    The acupuncturist I see does both acupuncture and traditional chinese medicine. She specialises in infertility, PCOS and miscarriage prevention. The one and only time in my life that I can actually confidently say that I ovulated was a direct result of ovarian stimulation by acupuncture - it's been immensely frustrating that we haven't been able to get it to happen again, but the stresses of last year were immense so it's hardly surprising! For most of the later parts of the year she was concentrating on keeping me calm and helping me to manage all the stress I was under - my acupuncture appointments were a little island of bliss on a Friday afternoon! We were referred to her by the bowen therapist that my husband saw for back problems - she also had PCOS and used the acupuncture practice to conceive her children years ago. I know it can work, and I know it has made me feel a whole heap better (has also done wonders for the arthritis and energy levels!) even if it hasn't got me to the end result as yet. She is quite happy to work in supporting what the FS does - they do a lot of IVF support at the acupuncture centre, and my first impression of the FS is that he's not going to be against what I'm doing in terms of natural therapies, even if it's just to support my ability to cope mentally and emotionally.

    My gyn/obs friend who has helped me out with research is pretty convinced that I do actually have PCOS - it's not just the PCO, but I've never in my life had a regular cycle - as a teenager I thought it was great that I could go months on end without ever having a visit from AF! And while I'm not overly bothered by the odd coarse hair I sometimes find around my nipples, I'm also sure it's not something that all women have! My hormone profile in the past (the one and only time it was ever checked, February last year!) has shown slightly elevated free androgens... so it's not as though I'm completely free of PCOS symptoms... it's just that the PCOS symptoms I do have point to it being very mild, and I then assume (perhaps wrongly) that it should also be easy to treat and correct, but it's proving to be very, very stubborn! There's a few other odd things that I suspect may indicate something else that may be happening (I suspect thyroid problems or elevated prolactin levels), so I'm really looking forward to being able to find out what the test results have shown...

    Sorry for the epic! Ask me a question and you usually get a really long answer!

    Briggsy's girl, I know that this is one of those comments that would usually result in intense frustration and potentially wanting to slap someone... but your two little angels should indicate that it's not impossible for you to conceive again... but keeping them may end up being the bigger battle.

    BW

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    don't worry BW, it your comment hasn't fustrated me. both gyno and FS said with my hormone levels the way they are at the moment, if i'm lucky enough to ovulate again, chances are i will get pg again naturally, however my progesterone levels are way too low and androgen levels way too high to alow me to sustain it past a certain point. they're working toward FSH injections and IUI as the hormone levels are controlled up until pg is esablished properly, by which time hopefully my body will start to behave itself! we only got to 6 weeks angel #1 and 5 weeks for #2 so i guess things will be pretty closely monitored for a while.

    glad the acupuncture works for you (even if it's just in keeping you a little more relaxed/less stressed) - mianly asked as my chiro also does acupunture, and i'd never thought to ask whether it might help - i guess it's just something that never came to mind. i've been seeing him for over 10 years, and he knows of our struggle TTC and hasn't mentioned acupunture at all - i'm guessing he doesn't specialise in acupunture for infertility treatment, more pain management.

    Hope you NYE was enjoyable - i crashed about 1am, woke up a 3.15 when DH was coming to bed - asked what he'd been doing - told me he'd put on a music DVD and played a song over and over that reminded him of the angels we lost - said he couldn't come to bed cos it was playing on his mind so much what could have been, and where we're going with everything this year. was very hard not to let him see the tears in my eyes as he was telling me. he's got this image with all his friends as being the big tough guy (stereotypical truck driver!), but he's such a teddy bear, and he wants so much to be a daddy - it was tearing me up big time that i can't give him that straight away! he's brilliant with little kids - my brothers kids absolutely love him, and he dotes on them so much - hopefully 2007 will bring us the luck we need for us to make that dream come true

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    Hi Girls!!

    I'm back from holidays, just got back this afternoon and thought I'd pop in to see how you are all going. Had a wonderful holiday with my family, and as usual bawled my eyes out the whole way home (so hard leaving my mum and dad, I hate it).

    There's been a lot to catch up on and a few new faces, so apologies for the lack of personals.

    Kt - so sorry that things haven't worked out this month. You are a lot stronger than me having a self imposed break, but I agree sometimes our hearts just need a break. I thought I'd get a month or so off over xmas and new year but it hasn't quite worked out that way. Not that I'm complaining!

    Deb - sorry that you didn't have success this month but as you well know it's very early days yet, more luck this month sweetie! Hope you had a great xmas with all your kiddies! I'm sure it was a busy one.

    BW - good to hear you are still happily plodding along, not long to wait for your FS appt now.

    As for me, well I'm officially NOT a clomid girl anymore. We have started our first IVF cycle, so it's all happening! Probably won't be posting so much here anymore but will definately keep my eye on you all and will let you know how we are going. I know I can always count on you guys for support. It's a very daunting journey to begin but so far I'm doing OK. The meds are making me a bit of a cranky chicken, but other than that, not much to report.

    I hope you all had a merry christmas and a great new year! I was in bed by 9.30pm
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    Willow - glad to hear you had a nice beak away - i joined this thread just after you went on hols, so we haven't "met" yet, but i was following your details through the thread before i joined

    glad to see things with the IVF are going well for you - being a little cranky in a minor inconvenience, i'm sure! hope everything contiues to go well for you, and hopefully by the time i move across to the AC threads you'll be over in belly buddies, but if not, maybe i'll stalk you over there (in the best possible way of course!)

    good luck with it all - keep us posted on how things are going - i will probably be starting synarel nasal spray mid jan and FSH injections early Feb, so am keen to know how it goes for others (i've definitely heard some horror stories about reactions to FSH and am wanting to hear some positive ones!!)

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    Thanks briggsy's girls, for purely selfish reasons and in the nicest possible way, I wouldn't mind some of my clomid girls joining me in the AC thread, it seems very quiet in there at the moment, no one really to talk to so a few cycle buddies would be great!

    The synarel isn't too bad, tastes god awful, but am not looking forward to the injections, I'll give you the hot tip! LOL!

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    Hi all, im back!
    well so much hs happened here, i have no idea if I can keep up, so here I will try.
    Deb, sorry af turned up, 2007 and the PIG is the one. I have a pig child, my 11yr old, she is lovely...
    Willow, good luck with your IVF venture, may it go as well as can be.... big hugs to you!!
    KTgirl, so sorry to hear your body is behaving so up and down, I pray the break turns out a BFP for you in the near future!Try and enjoy the break....
    Briggsys girl, your DH sound so like a sensitive man, your very lucky!!!I pray you also have a bundle in 2007 to hold in your arms
    Hi BW, you sound like you have a plan coming together... good luck with your FS appointment..
    Well to anyone I may have missed a big hi to you all as well, I hope you all had a great christmas and a fantastic newyear!!!
    Me, well, I will only get excited after I have had my scan on the 5th of Jan! I wish it would hurry up, its feels like a long 2 weeks!! The good news is Im pretty crook on and off and have gone off alot of food, but until they *see* something, I will then only relax!
    Take care everyone

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    Chelle! It's good to see you again! The 5th of January is so very close now... although, with the 2 weeks, do you mean the 15th? Either way I'll be hoping for a very good result for you!

    BW

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    Hey Willow,
    Great to see your'e back and re charged. nothing like a holiday to reboot the batteries. Good to hear the synarel isnt TOO awful;but icky just the same. Look foward to keeping track of your progress. As for me still trying. First cycle of clomid was a no go. And now my fs is on holidays so not sure if i'll have to miss my clomid this month considering i'm already on day 5. Anyway i'm watching you....lol. Hope things keep going to plan.

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