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    hi everyone, just popping my head in here to wish you all well, and say it's great to read of your progress and about your babies...well done and take care


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    OMG there is so much happening in here! I can never seem to post much (slow internet) but I have to say WooHoo to Mako. That is just the bestest news!!! Take care

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    Oh wow huge congrats Mako what wonderful news

    Well no luck for us this cycle completely dissapointed and ****ed but oh well, annoyed we have to go back to a stim again and i really dont know what will happen from here we really want another baby but are tired oh so tired of IVF ruling our lives and taking away so many decisions for us.

    Welcome Miss Magpie and congrats on your beautiful baby boy Trent

    Shan
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    Sorry Shannon . Must be very daunting to consider stim cycles again. Are you heading straight back in, do you think, or taking a break first? All the best~~

    Kelly - af will often return within a few months if not bf. But everyone's different.

    Hope everyone is well

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    Hi everyone

    Haven't had the chance to drop in for a few days but while Tara is sleeping thought I would see how everyone else is going, but it is very quiet in here at the moment.

    Shannon: I haven't met you before but sorry to hear that this time didn't work for you, I can only assume that the same stresses apply even when we have miracle bubs already. I hope that you have success with your next cycle.

    AFM: Things have really picked up here lately, Tara is now sleeping most of the night now (7-8 hours) which helps with my sanity. Although as she is sleeping so much at night she seems to want 3 feeds before midday each day and then is fine with 2 feeds for the rest of the day. It makes it a bit difficult to get out of the house if we have to do anything before lunchtime, so I have been trying to organise anything that has to be done to get done in the afternoon.

    We have now hit the 8 week old mark and I'm waiting for my Wonder Week to kick in, I think it might be happening soon as she has been very unsettled during the day yesterday and today and is having trouble having day time naps ie: waking every 10-15 minutes, but she seems to have crashed now more from exhaustion than anything. Off to the MCHN on Wednesday for her weigh in which will be interesting as she has now gone up from approx 550mls per day feeds to now around 780mls which is a huge increase in just over a week. Then off to the Doctor on Friday for her immunisations and also Whooping Cough & Swine Flu injections for me & DH.

    I hope everyone is doing well and has got all Xmas shopping finished, I still have a couple of things to get but all the "Santa" presents are done.

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    Thanks girls for all the congrats
    All is going ok here atm. I have a scan on Monday and am feeling rather nervous about it as I'll be going on my own as DH will be at work.

    Shannon I'm sorry hun that you didn't get the results you were after this cycle I really do feel for you and hope you and your DH come up with an arrangement that suits you all

    Kelly Wow I can't believe Tara is doing so well with her sleep. That is a fantastic effort

    Lenny when is your bub due? I have a feeling its not too far away

    Gotta run, a certain little boy is awake.

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    Big Congrats Mako - and good luck with your scan. Will be sending lots of sticky vibes your waY.

    Shannon - so sorry to hear that you have to do a stim cycle again. This TTC stuff really doesn't get any easier does it

    Kelly - I think I need to send Jasmine around to get some sleeping lessons from Tara! Wow - 7 to 8 hours is great.

    Possums - thanks for thinking of us. Hoping that 2010 is the year for you xx

    Congratulations on the arrival of Trent Miss Magpie. Those early days of feeding can be difficult. As BG said perhaps jump into a BF thread and see if some of the ladies there can help. I found that with expressing I never got a regular amount. In the early days I was predominately BF Jasmine, but I did top up with formula and expressed milk. What helped me was to remember that as long as she was getting a number of good wet nappies each day and was also putting on weight - then everything was going well. Jasmine was a windy baby also, and to be honest I tried most things and they worked for maybe a short time, but then they didn't. It is often something that I just think they have to go through and grow out of - Sorry! I know that it felt like Jasmine would never stop having colic, but she did. They just have such immature digestive systems that all the new sensations can be a little overwhelming for them. However, if you are worried about it check it out with your MCHN. Good luck and ask heaps of questions!

    Hi Marcellus, Lenny, BG, Sazzafrazz,egan and anyone else I have missed.

    AFU - well we had a rotten night last might. We are currently in NZ visiting my mum which is great, but last night Jasmine was in bed with me and woke me up at 2:30am (NZ time - that is 12:30am AUS time) as she was crawling around the bed in her sleep and trying to pull herself up to standing also. I had to wake her up to get her to stop and then it took me an hour to resettle her - I placed her back into the cot and then at 5am NZ (3am AUS time) she started crawling around the cot - this time I woke to her standing holding onto the the rail and trying to climb out! Lucky I woke up as the side was down slightly, so she could have gone over the rail. Moral of this story is that the side now has to go up everytime she is in bed! As much as her sleep is still rotten, my little one is just amazing at the moment. She now has 3 teeth - the bottom middle 2 and a fang over to the left hand side up the top (out of order, but very cute). I think there are some more teeth on the move at the moment. She is crawling like a pro and pulling herself up on everything. Jasmine is almost able to clap and wave hello/good-bye. I really feel like my baby is no longer a baby, but this age is just so cool.

    Hope everyone is well.

    Janie and Jasmine xxx

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    Hi Janie!
    No wonder she's not sleeping well - too busy trying to stand up!

    All the best for the scan Mako

    Wow - doing so well Kelly! That's great.

    Hi everyone else

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    Good afternoon girls

    Kelly - WOW, Tara sleeping 7-8 hrs a night, thats GREAT! I may have to send Trent around to learn off her, lol Glad all is going well.

    Janie - LOVE your story about Jasmine! She sounds very active and how exciting that she has 3 teeth

    Shannon - sorry to hear that this cycle wasnt successful. Hang in there

    Hello to all the other girls

    AFM, well Trent seems to be settling better these days. Have been using infacol regularly so that seems to have helped his wind pains. My breast milk doesnt seem to be satisying him as I now have to nearly top him up with formula after every feed. Im disappointed as I really wanted to breastfeed him as long as I could. I may now have to think of giving it away if I cant get more milk. I feel like I am wasting an hour of him feeding on my boobs only for him to then have anywhere from 50-100mls of formula. The formula packet says from 1-2 mths the volume for babies is 150mls so it doesnt sound like he is getting much from my boobs from that estimate. Its hard to know what to do. I want to persist with breastfeeding but if its not enough, then am I wasting my time. Dont know which way to go.

    Take care all,

    Tania

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    Tania, are you seeing a Lactation Consultant? If you want to continue breastfeeding (or even if you're not sure and just want to keep your options open) and LC can really save you. If you PM Barb she can probably recommend a good one in your area. Or else you can try calling the ABA (1800 686 2 686). They can give you support and advice over the phone, and also may be able to recommend an LC or get you in touch with an ABA counsellor in your area.

    You're not wasting your time giving your baby breastmilk, hon. I understand if you feel it's not feasible to continue - that's your choice to make - but it really isn't a waste of time, even if he's only getting a small amount.

    On a practical level - how often is he feeding? Did you try taking him off and switching sides over? The more often he empties the breast the more milk you'll make. So, if you give him 20 mins on side 1, then 20 on side 2, then back to 1, your breasts will get more stimulation (compared to just 1 hr on one side) and (in theory, hopefully) you'll make more milk.

    All the best, whichever way you decide

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    Tania,
    Please seek some support and advice regarding the breastfeeding as you have said it is something you really want/wanted to do. I was topping-up my DS with formula, and I am so relieved that I could manage to give that up as it's twice the effort to have to do both (bf and ff). Your DS is still so young - his tummy is still tiny. Little and often might be better. The volume of formula 'suggested' is very different to the volume of breastmilk that your DS might need.
    At least if you can get some proper advice, you can feel more at ease that whatever decision you make is the right one for you both - not something you felt forced into.

    Take care of yourself - it's a tough gig.

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    HI there BB people, I have not been on BB since prior to having my twins in Feb. I remember Shannon from the forum and wish you all the best for your next IVF journey. I had my babies 8wks early and feel like I haven't slept since I went into labour! I find a combination of the IVF experience and having 2 premmie babies has exhausted me. Their names are Lily and Emma and are travelling along well, barring the usual stuff like teething. It is quite overwhelming parenting after waiting for it to happen for so long. However that all said and done I would like to have another baby, but weighing up if I have the capacity to handle it...

    Hope to get to know people again after being away from BB for a while.
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    Hello there everyone,
    I have been lurking and reading to catch up with you all but I'm still far from being up to date. I just wanted to stick my head in and introduce myself before I get trumped by others in the PALTTTC

    I thought that I had a traumatic birth and a bit to work through, having had my little girl Jasmine Lucie on the 29th of October via caesarian. She was breech all the way through the pg so although cs was elective, it could not have been any other way as at the birth it was discovered that not only was the cord wrapped around her neck 3 times, but my placenta was thin and my uterus the wrong shape to have a vb. Owing to all this, she came into the world with a rude shock and it took a bit to get her little life started, which gave us a hell of a scare to say the very least. She was blue and APGARS were a bit sluggish but I can happily report that at 10 minutes, she scored a perfect 10. It really was a terrifying experience for those few minutes of not knowing, but overall my birth experience was actually really good and after debriefing myself, writing it all down and revisiting the scary photos, I have decided I will write my birth story to give something back to those, like me that want to see all sides of the story (especially those with happy outcomes regardless of a bumpy beginning).

    Jasmine is turning 6 weeks on Thursday and things are going wonderfully well. I feel guilty reading some of your posts about breast feeding and although I have nothing to add, I really feel for you girls that are struggling and applaud your efforts. I just hope that you don't feel like you have to keep at it if it's not working for you. Like someone said (sorry, can't remember who), but the most important thing is a happy Mummy. You don't need to blame yourselves for anything you can or can't do with your babies. If you love them and care for them and meet their needs in the best way you can, then you can't feel bad. Give yourselves a break, it's bloody hard work and some people's bodies are just physically incompatible. I'm doing it because I can but also because it's free (and we're poor , plus all the other good reasons of bonding etc, but I'm sure that you would bond just as much looking into each others eyes, holding close to the body while feeding from a bottle. I hate any social stigma that surrounds BF vs bottle feeding and have seen women bruised for decades due to their inability to produce milk or whatever reason. Look after yourselves first so you can be the best Mums to your babies.

    I'm not sleeping alot, not getting much done, still very sore some days from the cs and today had to practically sleep all day because yesterday Jazzy and I had a big day doing the groceries in town. Three feeds and three nappy changes while out and about makes it a bit awkward to say the least but i live out of town like a lot of you so I have to just adjust. It's only my second time driving since the birth so although I've had to do lots and lots of trips as passenger, I have to get used to now doing it myself. It's such a lovely feeling to drive your little one yourself though(quite surreal). she is a great little traveler, which is so lucky because she is profoundly deaf and we have had to make umpteen trips to Cairns with her (4 hours return) to see specialists of every variety and that won't stop any time soon. Next week we take her to Townsville which is 6 hours away to get hearing aids fitted and then we have to trot back up and down to Carins fortnights to have the hearing aids adjusted due to her growing ...errr. I wont' ever complain about her hearing loss, I certainly haven't shed a tear (yet) but the travel may wear a bit thin especially when we have to go to brisbane to meet the cochlear team. We have a happy, healthy girl and you will hopefully never hear me complain.

    Cheers, look forward to meeting you all in time and sharing the ride xoxo

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    Hi All

    Murph: So good to see you over hear now. I hope your little Jazzy is putting on heaps of weight and fingers crossed will be a little porker before you know it. Good luck getting the hearing aids fitted, do they think it will have any effect on her hearing at all or is it something they are doing to try and get her used to having to wear them??

    Miss M: I'm so glad that Trent is doing well, it can be so tiring b/fing and then bottle feeding (plus all the extra work required and time lost) but hopefully you can get some help and maybe the top up's will start to dwindle and you can 100% b/f.

    Janie: Wow, Jasmine seems like a very active little girl especially crawling around in her sleep. And already pulling herself up on things, I think you may have an early walker there. Gosh they grow up so fast.

    Everyone else a big hello and I hope you are all doing well.

    AFU: Off to get weigh in today so am excited to see how much Tara now weighs. I'm thinking she has got to be close to the 5kg mark now (little porker) and considering she had 920mls of formula yesterday she will be stacking on the weight before my eyes. Girls I don't want to rub it in but I didn't tell that when Tara goes down for the night she will have her 7-8 hour sleep and depending on when she wakes for a feed (all depends on when she went down for the night) I can then pop her back into bed and she will sleep for a further 3-5 hours. So we are getting fantastic night sleeps it just means that she is awake most of the day now as she will only have cat naps of between 20-40 minutes to recharge her batteries. But I can't complain as she has already learnt the difference between night and day.

    Still trying to get her into a feeding routine, but it is hard to predict as she varies with what she will take at each feed. Generally it is between 150mls - 230mls, but sometimes she just wants little snack feeds of 70mls - 80mls depending on how she feels. So I have to be prepared everyday for any possibility which makes it hard when we go out as I have no idea when she will want feeding next and how much. I'm off to the hairdressers tomorrow, so it will be interesting to see how she goes for the 1 1/2 hours I will be there.

    Anyway, I will drop back in later to update on how big my little girl is.

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    Kelly - well done on the sleeping. They all get into their own little routines and we just learn to live around them, and trust that we know our babies the best.

    Murph - you sound very positive and happy, even after all you have been through. But hey, don't feel you can't ever complain! We all need to some days!

    queenh - congrats on your twins. What an amazing double blessing. It must be very hard work some days - I hope you are getting some help and support. I don't know how Shannon does it

    Janie - funny about your 'NZ time/Aus time' struggles. DS has been to NZ a few times with me, and I have to sheepishly admit that he sleeps better there...I am convinced it's all the attention he gets that tires him out. But you can guarantee he does not sleep on the plane or during the travelling, which makes me one of those parents that no-one want to sit beside!!

    Shanon - I'm sorry that you have had these disappointments. I'm sure it's in no way easy to deal with when you have the twins to take care of too. Especially contemplating another stim cycle.

    I don't think that i have said yet, but this bub is breech too. I'm a bit annoyed as he was head down (not engaged though) from about 27 weeks. Then he went and did a big flip. So, keep your fingers crossed for me that he decides to do another big flip...and stays that way.

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    O.K back from weigh in.... and my little girl has put on a massive 600 grams in 2 weeks and now weighs in at 4.8kgs. So she has now gone from being in the 25th percentile to being in the perfect weigh range, but to me that is such a huge gain. And her length has now gone from being in the normal range to now being longer than average, so I'm thinking we are going to end up with a tall girl here.

    Everything else was perfect and we are having an extra visit next month for another weigh in just to see how much more she can grow. Oh, my baby is going to grow up too fast.. I forgot to mention that she also did her first front to back roll on Sunday afternoon . She hasn't wanted to do another one since but she will turn onto her side if she is put on her tummy now.

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    Kelly - well done Tara on the great weight gain and also on the first roll! I know when Jasmine first did it she took a while to figure out how to do it again. Jasmine hated tummy time, so she tried so hard to figure out how to get out of that position! Oh, and by the way I'm not talking to you any more (just kidding) - can not believe how great Tara is sleeping all ready - seriously Jasmine is in need of some of that!

    Lenny - fingers crossed for another flip. Hopefully bubs will do it just in time.

    Murph and Jasmine - welcome to the thread. Glad to hear things are still going well and hope all goes well with the hearing aid fitting.

    Queen - great to see you back! I know how hard it is with one baby, so you must be run off your feet!

    Hi Marcellus, Mako, Tania, Shannon and anyone else I have missed.

    AFU - all is well here, still in NZ with a sleep crawling baby I forgot to say that she is now also saying Mumma - not 100% sure that she knows that word means me, but I would like to think that she does. She says it a lot and often says it when she is upset so I think she is getting the idea!

    Hope everyone is well.

    Janie xxx

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    Hey there,
    thanks for welcoming me on board, I do look forward to catching up but for now I am just moving forward with you and will take time later for all the personals.

    Lenny, ahh, if I never complained, what would I have to talk about? I just meant I won't complain about Jasmine's hearing loss like it's a burden to us, because we feel so thoroughly blessed and of course she is just perfect to us. we spent 15 years on this little mission and were told we had zero chance of ever conceiving, so like lots of you ladies, this is our miracle and we are still pinching ourselves.

    Hi Janie, your gorgeous girl sounds cuter every time we hear from you and it sounds like a lovely time in your lives. Thanks for sharing, I can really feel the love in your voice and I know just what you mean about not having the words to describe it. My DH and I (as I'm sure you all are) are just smitten and just look at her for ages amazed at what life has given us and how wonderful it's all working.

    Kelly, hello there, I finally moved over next door. It's hard leaving our old thread with our old friends after sharing the journey all the way through, but I'm sure this thread will feel like home and I'll cut the apron strings soon.

    As for Tara Rose (fatty boomba) as my Mum is calling Jasmine after making it to a hefty 3.2 kilos at 6 weeks today. I have followed in your footsteps all through my pg and even our babies are progressing the same, but two weeks from now, I don't want Jazzy to be at 4.5 kilos. Not yet, I have just bought the last of her nappy system and we are still on extra small bum genius with smalls all set to go next, but have got her in gorgeous Itty bitty d'lish which are just edible (at least when they go on). Wow though, you must be so happy to see her that healthy. Yay

    AFU today another trip down to Cairns, for hip scans ( a routine thing at 6 weeks for breech babies) and we had her weighed and measured. when the GP said Jasmine is now above the line, I thought she meant the thick black line (the median in the growth charts), but when I checked it all with DH we worked out she is now just not so off the radar and is now just over the lowest lines on the growth charts. I hope you know what I'm talking about Anyway, it's all progress and she is a long way from being tiny and fragile so we have no worries. I can't believe how chubby she feels at this weight compared to two weeks ago.

    Count down is on to Operation tiny pink hearing aids. Oh it will be so cute. We don't expect they will work but it's a first step to finding out if she will benefit before going down the track of invasive procedures like CAT scans and MRIs and the whole cochlear investigation which we find a bit scary on one so little as they have to be under general. anyway, tiny baby steps and first things first is our trip to townsville for our hot pink hearing aids on Wednesday. yay!

    Hope you are all well.

    P.S, by the way, guess what Kelly, I'm not jealous cos Jazzy is doing the same sleep routine now too, (exactly...tooo funny).

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