Thanks Tam for the tip on the OV Watch Im going to google it now, I?d never hear d of it?.goodluck TTCing over next couple of days will be thinking of you! And if you do have to go through IVF that?s also positive because we are so lucky we have this technology these days. My girlfriend Relle came to visit me with her husband and he new IVF bub Ollie, he is so beautiful and so placid and they never thought they?d have him, hubby had leukemia at 18 and he was sterile cause of the chemo, well he?s now 40 had bub at 39 and he found he had swimmers!! What a miracle!! They got their forever baby on their 4th try at IVF. Relle also told me that her friend in the UK, Jules, is pregnant with twins from donor eggs given to her when docs told her she was infertile, she?s due any day and is so excited!she?s 40 the donor eggs were from a 30 year old & they fertilised on the first go!!! Lots to be said for young eggs ?..So where there?s a will there?s a way, and all of us should never give up because we will have our forever babies somehow!

Dellydoo ? Im sending out to you lots of hugs and motivational vibes, enjoy the retreat, would luv to know what its like Gwinganna have heard and read so much about it and its not too far to go for me either. Though Cairns is very relaxing most of the times, but not when stuck in a freezing air conditioned office.

Louise ? welcome, I know how hard this is for you, most of us here having gone through this once or a few times before. My experience was similar to yours, the first ultrasound at 6 weeks revealed a very fuzzy sac type circle and the stenographer told me it was passing so that was it, however then my hcg levels kept rising and was booked in for a D&C and they then cancelled it because they thought they?d seen something in another u/s which ended up being nothing at all anyway in the end they also thought maybe ectopic because of the rising levels however I started bleeding probably around week 8 and then really heavily bleeding passing clots etc and I had really bad period pain, this was the body expelling the pregnancy. I cried at the drop of a hat during that time, I screamed and blamed God why oh why was this happening to me??? But with the help of my darling husband and friends and this website I got over it, it will never leave me and I?ll always remember our first bub. But it does get better and you will have your forever baby too.

Emmykate ? goodluck ttcing I know it will happen for you Im sending you lots of stickyvibes!!!

To all the other girls Ruthie (not long til november each day it gets closer!!) Toccara (lots of hugs) Jen, Babyonboard , larz, joey, AJC,katiegirl, jenushka,babyfever (thanks for your advice will def start charting again when I get AF for the first time since m/c it?s a habit to hard to break been doing it for like 5 years) stickyvibes and lots of babydust to you all?have an awesome day?..