thread: Babies Born June 2006 #2

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    ♥ BellyBelly's Creator ♥
    Add BellyBelly on Facebook Follow BellyBelly On Twitter

    Feb 2003
    Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, Australia
    8,982

    It's funny, when I had issues with Elijah, I rang the LC (on Pinky's advice) and one of the first things I said to the LC was, 'I am really worried about my supply, I think it's really low.' She said, 'What is it with you new mums and supply?!' LOL!

    Some of us will have supply problems, but make sure you don't self diagnose it. Get a second opinion from an LC and make sure you have have that when you make changes - if you have to change to formula at least you will be at peace with it, because you knew you tried your best and you sought that help from a good source. The link I posted in the breastfeeding forum for the LC in Sydney contains a reference to LC's as part of the national association, so they need to obide by a code of ethics, and most of them are IBCLC.

    I know we all see 'breast is best' stuff posted around the place, but in the discussion thread when this article was initially posted (in infant led feeding) the ABA was contacted about it and made some interesting comments, about their change in approach to the topic. It's like anything though, the messages have been so far ingrained and it's hard to break sayings and habits. Unfortunately though, I think lots of women who bottlefeed for health reasons have the hardest time dealing with it (as opposed to those who WANT to bottlefeed regardless) and they need support to de-brief and get answers. You can only do this with a professional and not other women on a website. So this is why I think it is so raw to deal with it here. There are lots of undealt with feelings, thoughts and emotions and we aren't qualified to deal with those. That's why there are still older women today with issues with their births and why as soon as you are pregnant or have a new baby, they are first to share their horror stories or share their 2c worth because they haven't had the opportunity to deal with it. Unfortunately #2 - while it sucks having it in your face, it is important that mums know that the best form of nutrients and food supply for babies is breastmilk, but perhaps instead of spending money on campaigns saying just that, they need to approach it a little differently. The way formula is marketed these days, some women do think that formula can be superior with all those vitamins and minerals in it, when they don't realise how rich breastmilk is already, plus the live stuff in it too, like white blood cells, antibodies etc. So It's a tough one. All I guess I can say is that if you have gone to formula and are having difficulty with how you feel, perhaps you could see someone who does post-natal de-briefing - some LC's do this, I know my teacher does...
    Kelly xx

    Creator of BellyBelly.com.au, doula, writer and mother of three amazing children
    Author of Want To Be A Doula? Everything You Need To Know
    In 2015 I went Around The World + Kids!
    Forever grateful to my incredible Mod Team

  2. #2
    Registered User

    Nov 2005
    Where the heart is
    4,360

    Dont' worry, Bathsheba, I'm just taking what you said and storing it in case I happen to get at attachment that isn't painful but isn't the 'baby wrapped close around your body, supporting hand in the small of the back' scenario. I haven't even got to the point where the 'textbook' position is pinch-free for the whole feed. Sometimes it is painful, so I detach immediately, other times it's a little uncomfy so I let it go until it gets too pinchy. I hate doing that, but I also hate making Oscar hang out for an extra half hour to get a full feed! I know, it's a bit of a cop out, but it's the guilt thing. HOWEVER, I have made an extra appointment with the MHC nurse for Friday to continue the dialogue about whether I should see the LC in Monbluk or go to the breastfeeding clinic in Healesville. He's still flattening my nipple and the vasospasm blurs my sense of whether the pain after a feed is the blood constriction or a direct result of the poor attachment. I'll sort this one out, dammit! I KNOW it gets better, but I really want to avoid wishing away this time for the 'better' time, cos he'll only be this little once! There is no reason this BFing caper can't work for me, physically or mentally.
    I agree with Kelly, FF or BF is quite emotive because people get very defensive about their position. It's a bit like co-sleeping - I am not hiding that we co-sleep to people I talk to and I sort of defy them to offer their 2 cents worth about it...so far, no takers! You do what you have to do and the only person you should be answerable to is yourself. If you are still conflicted, for goodness sake, find someone to talk to about it, someone qualified like a counsellor (a counsellor with some kind of certificate, cos anyone can legally be a counsellor) or psychologist. You don't need to reconcile your actions with other people, but you should be able to within yourself. If it's upsetting still, seek help!
    Well, us Junies never really did shy away from contentious topics. I do remember us getting into some meaty topics during pregnancy! We can deal with this one

  3. #3
    Registered User

    Sep 2005
    Crazytown
    2,455

    Hi everyone,

    Dee where abouts is Treasure Island? If you want we could arrange to meet up in that week if you want? just let me know.

    Well school was back in today so I got to wear my baby sling which I haven't worn since DS1 as the other two boys just didn't like it. Cody really enjoyed it as he fell asleep on the way to school this morning and when I put him in it this arvo he was sleeping and he stayed asleep. I'm so happy about this, so I'll be wearing him alot more. Better go and do a bit of house work.

    hugs xoxo